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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 12:52 AM
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fatherland free speech question
Can I post that I would like to wrap duct tape around Bush's head? Or will I be jumpsuit buddies with Walker Lindh if I were to write that I would really like to wrap Bush's head in duct tape? Not that I am writing it, mind you, I am only asking a question. What is worse? saying I would like to wrap Bushs head with all it's breathing apparatus, in duct tape, or just writing that the thoughts in my head are far worse. What if I made no reference to a silly duct tape scenario, but simply announced: AUTHORITIES! THE THOUGHTS IN MY HEAD ARE VERY BAD, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. I AM HAVING BAD THOUGHTS. In such a case, could the Patriot Act (may the gods curse the abomination and it's supporters) get you a visit, or a visit AND an offshore trip? Not that we are announcing to the authorities that we are having BAD thoughts in a Gitmo kind of bad way, mind you, it's just something I'm asking QUITE innocently........
I'd REALLY like to know. I would REALLY like to hear Ashcroft answer that. REALLY. But, you know, all in an innocent kind of curiosity.

How many of you are startled by this post? You are? Why? Think about it. Nothing has been said. If anything, some creative writng and silliness...yet...here we are catching our breaths. What does that tell you? It should anger you that mere silliness can be considered dangerous, subversive, and potententially criminal. "Well, this is the internet...what you are writing, you are actually publishing for the whole world to see and judge." Yes. But if I use a "creative writing" technique of saying that I am MERELY asking a question (who but big brother is able to judge that in my mind it is NOT a mere innocent question?) and then launch into a "hypothetical" post, and write out that hypothetical post, with a wink wink nudge nudge that the hypothetical post is meant to be my actual post, who can prove there was implied and/or literal interpretation? Big fucking brother, that's who. They COULD take this post under the PAtriot Act (may it's authors be carried away by demons to the boiling vats of their christian hell) and urge a jury to convict me. Oh but wait! No jury! Again, I would like to hear Ashcroft say what he would do with a citizen who posts each day of the year a post where is posited a "hypothetical" with disclaimer by the same that these are not his actual feelings, but the posts are clever enough to leave the impression that it is not hypothetical, but that it is what the author of the posts actually feel like. My guess is he would say this person should be investigated, and probably held for surveillance. Do you see how wrong this is????? It is absolutiely wrong....forget the argument that daily posts like that would be a trigger for investigation....no it isn't. NO IT ISN'T. A man is free to rail at the king and all his powers from the privacy of his humble cottage (some ancient english subversive wrote something like that - don't know who). If no threats are ACTUALY and LITERALLY made, we should not feel our hearts skip a beat when we hit the send button after we write that we would like to see Bush's head wrapped in duct tape. That fear is fascist fear. My fucking god! let's pull the freepers posts from 3-4 years ago....you think they felt any fear when they posted LITERAL threats against Clinton? Fuck this climate of Fatherland fear.
Sieg Fucker!! (sorry, i'm a little buzzed...hahah)
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 12:50 AM
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1. Gooood work
Like the post.
I have a question-
Who came up with the name "Homeland Security" ??????

?that agency was created after 911 right?

The CIA was created in 1947 for one purpose specifically--to prevent another surprise attack like pearl harbor-
-guess the CIA were asleep at the wheel and now we have this new agency--
That name"Homeland Security" is nearly "fatherland Security" --has a reich like ring to it doesn't it?
the "homeland" ????
WTF
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 12:58 AM
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2. They don't care. The Authorities (especially the CIA right now) AGREE...
with you.

Bush, as EVERYONE knows, lied to America and is blaming the noble men and women of the CIA and the intelligence services and law enforcement and the military for his cocaine/a;cohol residual addled lies.

They are pissed.

And I'd bet they are buying duct tape and agree with yiu 100%.

Don't sweat it. celebrate life (unlike the bogus pResident who celebrates the other thing and Pretzels...)

Homeland security cops and soldiers as well as the CIA are as sick of Bush as you are.
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