What will happen to all the children?

[Lisabtrucking]

The war will cause many children to be without a parent or in some cases without both parents. Some children will live with their grandparents or maybe an aunt, but what about the children that live in the war torn area. Will they even survive, after all of the adults are finished fighting and killing each other, will anyone be there to help the children deal with the shock and devastation of losing his or her parent? This question has to be studied; there needs to be a program set up to deal with the children that are orphans from the war.

When adults go to war, they seldom think about the effect it will have on the young impressionable minds of children and the affects of losing a parent. Will the children that lose a parent to war ever be able to understand why their parent had to die? No these children will grow up with bad feelings and a hatred bred from war. Children will have to go through life with empty feelings of being lost in a world that causes disasters to happen. If the child is lucky, he or she will have a grandparent, mother, or father left alive from the war that might make things look somewhat more bearable.

What must children think when war breaks out? Children must be devastated. They see adults fighting and killing each other and children must have a sense of helplessness. Will these children grow up to hate the human race? Will they become adults with empty hearts not being able to care or love? Will we ever be able to convince the child that their parent died for honor? Will they think you must die for honor? These questions need to be studied, for these children will be the adults of the future. When this war is over, we must not abandon these children in orphanages; these children need help to deal with their pain. They will need love. The children must know that people are able to get along and to love their neighbor. May God bless our children and protect them in a time of devastation and hatred. With some hope, maybe some of these children will be able to live a normal life, but surly some will struggle with the fact that they lost someone they love. What will happen to all the children?

[villager]

1. "adults" the world over

don't really give a flying fuck about children, as history proves over and over again. The most "pious" are, of course, the worst in this regard.

[DireStrike]

2. Come on, now. Which is more important, children or petrodollar hegemony?

Be reasonable. :eyes:

[Lisabtrucking]

3. If I was a reporter, I would ask children what they think of what is

going on in Iraq, and ask the Iraqi children their thoughts. I think it would be very interesting, and it might be really powerful, maybe to powerful for the war supporter's to ignore.
I wounder if bush would read the children's remarks.
Maybe we can all learn something from children.

[idiosyncratic]

4. This might be what happens . . . . EEEEEK!!

This article talks about tsunami-victim children being taken to Christian orphanages.

Worries of backlash as evangelicals try to convert Muslim orphans
January 14, 2005

A US missionary group says it has flown 300 Muslim tsunami orphans from the Indonesian province of Aceh to the capital, Jakarta, where it plans to raise them in a Christian children's home.

The group, WorldHelp, is one of dozens of religious charities providing relief to victims of the tsunami, which killed more than 150,000 people, most of whom were in Aceh.

Most do not attach conditions to their aid, and many of the larger ones, such as World Vision, Catholic Relief Services and Church World Service, have policies against religious conversion. But some of the smaller groups are presenting the tragedy to evangelical Christian donors as a rare opportunity to make converts in hard-to-reach areas such as Aceh, which is predominantly Muslim.

"Normally, Banda Aceh is closed to foreigners and closed to the gospel. But, because of this catastrophe our partners there are earning the right to be heard and providing entrance for the gospel," WorldHelp said in an appeal on its website this week.

The appeal said WorldHelp, which is based in Virginia, was working with native Christians in Indonesia to "plant Christian principles as early as possible" in the 300 Muslim children, all younger than 12, who lost their parents in the tsunami. . . .

I am a Christian, but this story appalled me.

Maybe this group will do the same to the orphaned children in Iraq.


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[Lisabtrucking]

6. This is scary and I'm appalled also. Christians can be so devilish,

I wonder if they asked these children if they knew what their faith was, and if it was Muslim I wounder if they will get a Muslim to keep their parents faith going.

I bet not, Christians think their religion is the true religion.
sad, very sad.

I didn't mean any ill will to you, it's just that I've seen to much corruption in all of the religions, so I decided to have church in my own house, and talk to god without calling myself any religion.

[greyfox]

14. Sounds like....

a good idea to me... why not?

[NYC]

5. BTK = Born To Kill

That was the name of a vicious street gang, whose members were Vietnamese children who grew up in the war.

This was all I could find (lack of patience to keep looking):

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/australia/docs/ncaaoc3.html

Years ago, when I read about them in NYC, it was said that they had grown up to be so vicious because they had grown up in the war.

...Vietnamese crime groups are generally considered to be less organized but more violent than ethnic Chinese organized crime groups. Some groups, such as the New York-based BTK (Born to Kill) Gang are well structured with a definite leadership hierarchy...

[MsTryska]

7. so basically they're gonna become terrorists cells eh?

kinda what i figured.

[NYC]

9. Or violent street gangs.

When children grow up in a war, violence is all they know.

[MsTryska]

10. Yeah.....

altho, combined with the form of islam they'll be raised with by their imams, i doubt the violence will be directed at their own.



i've been worrying about this since there was a rumble of war with iraq.


how is it as a citizen, not particularly informed, but perhaps moreso than the genpop, i could see the ramifications, and the people in charge, and the press, couldn't?

[NYC]

11. They could.

They chose to ignore the ramifications.

[MsTryska]

12. true. they did choose to ignore it....

why? surely they couldn't be filled with that much hubris to find it irrelevant.

[NYC]

13. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Profits. People who think this war is going badly are not looking at it from a Halliburton perspective.

Are Bush and his friends "losing" in this war? I think not. American soldiers are dying, American taxpayers are paying, etc. Bush & friends are not suffering.

(Yes, I am totally ignoring the cost to Iraq. But the cost to the U.S. is not borne by Bush & Co. Hence, the willingness to ignore ramifications. We suffer; they don't.)

[DulceDecorum]

15. So now the Muslim orphans are natural-born-killers

and BECAUSE the US killed their parents
the children must also be killed
NOW
before Islam turns them mad?

The Nazis are alleged to have said similar things
as they shovelled Jewish children into ovens.

Now since the Americans have chosen to roast and microwave Iraqi womwn and children cowering within bomb sheleters,
they come up with the same defense.
http://www.endthewar.org/images/bt/gallerybt9.htm

Who is this god
who demands human blood sacrifice?

[Lisabtrucking]

8. Thanks for the report, interesting.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

16. Interesting point

Here in DC there are huge issues with Hispanic gang members, specifically one called the Mara Salvatrucha (sp). It was founded in the days when El Savadorans were fleeing the country because of the Death Squads by children who had seen family members tortured, raped, killed, and "disappeared" by government forces.

[NYC]

18. Not really surprising, is it?

What have their lives been? Nothing but violence and a total lack of compassion. If that is their total exposure, how can they grow up to be something they have never seen? Something other than violent?

[ArkDem]

17. War is harmful to children and other living things.

[txaslftist]

19. Fruitful ground for missionaries...

Kids without parents will latch onto the nearest thing that offers what they lack, adult companionship and nurturing.

That's what our good holy rollers are there for! Build orphanages with christian churches in 'em and convert those young impressionable kids while theres a chance to save 'em young.

Save 'em from turnin' into godless Mohammedians.

Jebus thanks ya, GWB!

[Southpaw Bookworm]

20. In a related issue

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7535-2005Jan13.html

The Virginia-based missionary group WorldHelp has dropped its plans to place 300 Muslim "tsunami orphans" in a Christian children's home, the group's president, the Rev. Vernon Brewer, told news agencies yesterday.

snip

In an interview Tuesday for an article published in yesterday's Washington Post, Brewer said that the children already had been airlifted to Jakarta and that the Indonesian government had given permission for them to be placed in a Christian children's home. Brewer did not return calls from The Post yesterday to his home, office and cell phone to address the discrepancy.

In the e-mail, as well as in statements given to Reuters and Agence France-Presse, Brewer said WorldHelp had raised $70,000 to place 50 of the children in a Christian orphanage but had halted its efforts when it learned on Wednesday that the Indonesian government would not allow it.

snip

The group's plan to raise children from Muslim families in a Christian home struck a nerve in Indonesia, which had regulations in place even before the tsunami requiring orphans to be raised by people of their own religion. This rule was adopted in large part to ensure that Muslim children were not converted.


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