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Tue Jan-18-05 11:50 AM
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why is feinstein a democrat? |
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it is because of "so-called" democrats like this senator why the democratic party is dead
they stand for republican values, and should be republicans, but stay with the democrats, and we continue to lose
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:52 AM
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:07 PM
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1. she voted for the 385 billion dollar budget which has clauses in it to erode Roe V Wade 2. she voted for the medicare prescription drug plan, which does NOT provide the cheapest prices, but also inhibits other parties from negotiating better prices 3. she is voting to confirm Rice for Secretary of State, in spite of the lies and deceit that Rice was caught doing.
Feinstein is a politician who goes where the wind blows. Thank goodness we have Boxer to counter her
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Wed Jan-19-05 01:43 AM
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33. She's from San Fransisco |
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and in San Fransisco, the wind blows Democratic.
That's why she's a Democrat.
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:53 AM
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:53 AM
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3. She stands up for environmental issues, hates guns... |
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...and has a lot of gay friends.
I think that about covers it.
:argh:
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:50 AM
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she carries (or did) a gun. That little faux pas probably cost us a fair number of voters.
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:54 AM
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4. Her introduction of Rice was sickening. |
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:56 AM
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pretty much wiped out my respect for her.
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:10 PM
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13. that says everything doesn't it |
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This is why the Democrats are screwed. The party needs to elect people who represent Democratic principles, not Republican principles
until that is done, they will be losers
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:57 AM
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6. Her problem is she's an enabler, like far too many Dems are.... |
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...introducing Condo-liar today was the last straw. You're right, if she and her ilk (LIE-berman comes to mind) want to keep playing nice and act as if we all get along, the Dems are doomed to stay out of power. I think a lot of voters didn't see a great deal of difference between Dems and Repukes in this last election, so why not just stay the course and re-appoint Dumbo?
We need clear lines between us and the Repukes. While Di-Fi may agree with most Dem values and principles, she does a good job of distorting those so that people aren't clear as to who to vote for.
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:11 PM
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14. feinstein demonstrated she has no principle |
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by introducing rice
I am so thankful for Barbara Boxer
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 AM
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7. She gained recognition as Mayor of San Francisco, a very |
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liberal city. If she entered politics for political and material gain, which I believe she did, then running on the Democratic ticket would have been the smart thing to do. I think we need to back another Democratic candidate for her senate seat when she comes up for reelection.
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:37 PM
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21. Do this - and we might end up with a conservative republican senator. |
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I agree with you and other posters here that DiFi is like a moderate republican in many ways. I don't like many of her votes, but I'd rather put resources into defeating the Musclehead governor.
If Barbara Lee beat DiFi in the primaries, she might well lose the general election to a republican.
Everybody hates moderates. Jim Jeffords was a moderate republican senator from VT...Bush tried to muscle him, and so he switched parties and gave the senate to the democrats in 2001. So, I'd rather moderate democrats alone, take the 60-70% we get from them, and focus on defeating republicans instead.
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Tue Jan-18-05 01:00 PM
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27. I used to think like that, but now it's really a matter of |
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principles over corruption. Somewhere we have to make a stand even if we lose the senate seat. With a Republican majority anyway, it really doesn't make that big of a difference, does it, since DiFi will vote like a Republican anyway?
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Tue Jan-18-05 01:22 PM
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28. Check out DiFi's ratings with unions, environmental & civil rights groups. |
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She's not as good as we want - but better than some other Democrats, and virtually ANY republican in the senate.
The most left-leaning republicans in the Senate are from Maine & Rhode Island (Snow, Chafee and Collins). But overall DiFi is still more progressive than they are. Also, there is no CA republican in the House with a record as good as DiFi's...so if a republican did become senator, that person most likely be more conservative than DiFi.
So I admire you for keeping the faith, but I still think there are much bigger rats out there than DiFi.
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 AM
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8. Republicans lose in California. She likes being a Senator. nt |
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Wed Jan-19-05 12:34 AM
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:59 AM
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9. Who will be here opponent in the primaries? |
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:12 PM
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15. Think Barbara Lee n/t |
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Tue Jan-18-05 11:49 PM
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29. Barbara Lee doesn't have the balls to give up her safe House seat |
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Wed Jan-19-05 12:06 AM
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:56 AM
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37. When is the last time she has specifically criticized DiFi in public? |
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:19 AM
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38. Criticizing DiFi is not a qualifier |
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Standing up for and representing her constituents needs is. Questioning the validity of the electoral vote is. Promoting election reform is. Opposing the war is. Not being afraid to present stand up to the opposition is.
Lee doesn't have to criticize DiFi. DiFi's actions and statements will do herself in.
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:03 PM
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10. Bemildred is correct. |
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San Francisco is a Democratic city, California is a blue state, and Feinstein is an opportunist.
I favor Bob Filner or Chris Kehoe to oppose Feinstein in the primaries.
Feinstein HAS GOT TO GO! (Meme -- pass it on.)
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:03 PM
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11. I'm from CA - Feinstein is a good Senator - She gets things done. |
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You have to understand that repugs have controlled the senate for most of her tenure. She is one of the emissaries who manages to get things done, and comes away with goods for our side. I'm sure she'd like to be true to her roots, like when she was mayor of San Francisco....but in the senate, she has to work with Neanderthals like Trent Lott, Bill Frist, etc. who have more votes and power.
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:13 PM
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16. Imagine if she stood side by side with Senator Boxer |
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in opposing what are really immoral and unethical acts by these Neanderthals, how much better it would be. I am especially pissed that she voted for the IWR. She even made a very lame excuse as to why she did so. We all found out later that her husband Richard Blum, who has ties to Bechtel Corporation, stood to gain a lot from the rebuilding of Iraq.
She is corrupt like the rest of the corporate cronies in our government. She throws bones every now and then to the electorate to keep them voting for her.
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:32 AM
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35. Please ignore - replied to the wrong message |
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Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 04:34 AM by Carl Yasutomo
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:14 PM
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17. that is the same thing that was done in the first four years of bush |
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Incidently, her support of the Iraq war makes her even lower
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:16 PM
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18. Everything Feinstein does is for her career, not the people |
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:16 PM
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19. After the 2006 elections, she won't even be able to grovel |
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a few extra bucks for CA when the Senate has 60 Repukes.
The time for compromise is over and she and every other democrat needs to stand up and say #### off to the repugs. This is democracy's last stand. They might as well go down with a fight and make some noise.
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:33 AM
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36. But did she have to praise that war criminal Rice?? |
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:36 PM
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20. she made me sick today!...why did she lick condi's shoes? it is acts like |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 12:38 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
this that make me sad that i became a Nader Triator in 2000 and 04 her words and actions introducing Condi were truly repulsive :puke:
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:47 PM
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22. Perhaps because she is pro-choice |
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:50 PM
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23. she would sell that down the river in a minute |
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if she thought it could advance her pollitically
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:50 PM
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24. And you can prove this how? |
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:53 PM
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25. Perhaps because she supports raising the fuel efficiency of SUVs and |
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Tue Jan-18-05 12:55 PM
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26. Perhaps becasue she supports the assult weapons ban |
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Wed Jan-19-05 01:08 AM
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32. The same reason I won't vote for her ever again. |
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She's just another moderate right-wing democrat, a spineless, republican kiss-ass.
That's the last thing we need with these ultra right-wing fascist now in power.
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:39 AM
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34. Because in CA, Dems are the only game in town |
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especially when she started her career. Look, we only get two real choices to express our political views, Repuke or Democratic. She chose the one that had the power and the infrastructure where she lived in order to advance herself. Practical, but not thinking with the heart, no.
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