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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:50 AM
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why is feinstein a democrat?
it is because of "so-called" democrats like this senator why the democratic party is dead

they stand for republican values, and should be republicans, but stay with the democrats, and we continue to lose

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:52 AM
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1. Please elaborate.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:07 PM
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12. elaboration
1. she voted for the 385 billion dollar budget which has clauses in it to erode Roe V Wade
2. she voted for the medicare prescription drug plan, which does NOT provide the cheapest prices, but also inhibits other parties from negotiating better prices
3. she is voting to confirm Rice for Secretary of State, in spite of the lies and deceit that Rice was caught doing.

Feinstein is a politician who goes where the wind blows. Thank goodness we have Boxer to counter her

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:43 AM
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33. She's from San Fransisco
and in San Fransisco, the wind blows Democratic.

That's why she's a Democrat.
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:53 AM
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2. ?????
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:53 AM
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3. She stands up for environmental issues, hates guns...
...and has a lot of gay friends.

I think that about covers it.

:argh:
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Boosterman Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:50 AM
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39. Dont forget
she carries (or did) a gun. That little faux pas probably cost us a fair number of voters.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:54 AM
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4. Her introduction of Rice was sickening.
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mslux Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:56 AM
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5. Her support for Rice
pretty much wiped out my respect for her.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:10 PM
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13. that says everything doesn't it
This is why the Democrats are screwed. The party needs to elect people who represent Democratic principles, not Republican principles

until that is done, they will be losers
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:57 AM
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6. Her problem is she's an enabler, like far too many Dems are....
...introducing Condo-liar today was the last straw. You're right, if she and her ilk (LIE-berman comes to mind) want to keep playing nice and act as if we all get along, the Dems are doomed to stay out of power. I think a lot of voters didn't see a great deal of difference between Dems and Repukes in this last election, so why not just stay the course and re-appoint Dumbo?

We need clear lines between us and the Repukes. While Di-Fi may agree with most Dem values and principles, she does a good job of distorting those so that people aren't clear as to who to vote for.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:11 PM
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14. feinstein demonstrated she has no principle
by introducing rice

I am so thankful for Barbara Boxer
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 AM
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7. She gained recognition as Mayor of San Francisco, a very
liberal city. If she entered politics for political and material gain, which I believe she did, then running on the Democratic ticket would have been the smart thing to do. I think we need to back another Democratic candidate for her senate seat when she comes up for reelection.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:37 PM
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21. Do this - and we might end up with a conservative republican senator.
I agree with you and other posters here that DiFi is like a moderate republican in many ways. I don't like many of her votes, but I'd rather put resources into defeating the Musclehead governor.

If Barbara Lee beat DiFi in the primaries, she might well lose the general election to a republican.

Everybody hates moderates. Jim Jeffords was a moderate republican senator from VT...Bush tried to muscle him, and so he switched parties and gave the senate to the democrats in 2001. So, I'd rather moderate democrats alone, take the 60-70% we get from them, and focus on defeating republicans instead.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:00 PM
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27. I used to think like that, but now it's really a matter of
principles over corruption. Somewhere we have to make a stand even if we lose the senate seat. With a Republican majority anyway, it really doesn't make that big of a difference, does it, since DiFi will vote like a Republican anyway?
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:22 PM
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28. Check out DiFi's ratings with unions, environmental & civil rights groups.
She's not as good as we want - but better than some other Democrats, and virtually ANY republican in the senate.

The most left-leaning republicans in the Senate are from Maine & Rhode Island (Snow, Chafee and Collins). But overall DiFi is still more progressive than they are. Also, there is no CA republican in the House with a record as good as DiFi's...so if a republican did become senator, that person most likely be more conservative than DiFi.

So I admire you for keeping the faith, but I still think there are much bigger rats out there than DiFi.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 AM
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8. Republicans lose in California. She likes being a Senator. nt
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:34 AM
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31. exactly
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:59 AM
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9. Who will be here opponent in the primaries?
??
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:12 PM
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15. Think Barbara Lee n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:49 PM
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29. Barbara Lee doesn't have the balls to give up her safe House seat
and challenge DiFi.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:06 AM
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30. I think she might
We'll see.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:56 AM
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37. When is the last time she has specifically criticized DiFi in public?
:shrug:
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:19 AM
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38. Criticizing DiFi is not a qualifier
Standing up for and representing her constituents needs is. Questioning the validity of the electoral vote is. Promoting election reform is. Opposing the war is. Not being afraid to present stand up to the opposition is.

Lee doesn't have to criticize DiFi. DiFi's actions and statements will do herself in.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:03 PM
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10. Bemildred is correct.

San Francisco is a Democratic city, California is a blue state, and Feinstein is an opportunist.

I favor Bob Filner or Chris Kehoe to oppose Feinstein in the primaries.

Feinstein HAS GOT TO GO! (Meme -- pass it on.)
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:03 PM
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11. I'm from CA - Feinstein is a good Senator - She gets things done.
You have to understand that repugs have controlled the senate for most of her tenure. She is one of the emissaries who manages to get things done, and comes away with goods for our side. I'm sure she'd like to be true to her roots, like when she was mayor of San Francisco....but in the senate, she has to work with Neanderthals like Trent Lott, Bill Frist, etc. who have more votes and power.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:13 PM
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16. Imagine if she stood side by side with Senator Boxer
in opposing what are really immoral and unethical acts by these Neanderthals, how much better it would be. I am especially pissed that she voted for the IWR. She even made a very lame excuse as to why she did so. We all found out later that her husband Richard Blum, who has ties to Bechtel Corporation, stood to gain a lot from the rebuilding of Iraq.

She is corrupt like the rest of the corporate cronies in our government. She throws bones every now and then to the electorate to keep them voting for her.
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Carl Yasutomo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:32 AM
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35. Please ignore - replied to the wrong message
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 04:34 AM by Carl Yasutomo
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:14 PM
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17. that is the same thing that was done in the first four years of bush
Incidently, her support of the Iraq war makes her even lower
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:16 PM
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18. Everything Feinstein does is for her career, not the people
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apple_ridge Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:16 PM
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19. After the 2006 elections, she won't even be able to grovel
a few extra bucks for CA when the Senate has 60 Repukes.

The time for compromise is over and she and every other democrat needs to stand up and say #### off to the repugs. This is democracy's last stand. They might as well go down with a fight and make some noise.
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Carl Yasutomo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:33 AM
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36. But did she have to praise that war criminal Rice??
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:36 PM
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20. she made me sick today!...why did she lick condi's shoes? it is acts like
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 12:38 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
this that make me sad that i became a Nader Triator in 2000 and 04
her words and actions introducing Condi were truly repulsive :puke:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:47 PM
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22. Perhaps because she is pro-choice
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:50 PM
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23. she would sell that down the river in a minute
if she thought it could advance her pollitically
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:50 PM
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24. And you can prove this how?
:shrug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:53 PM
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25. Perhaps because she supports raising the fuel efficiency of SUVs and
light trucks?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:55 PM
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26. Perhaps becasue she supports the assult weapons ban
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:08 AM
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32. The same reason I won't vote for her ever again.
She's just another moderate right-wing democrat, a spineless, republican kiss-ass.

That's the last thing we need with these ultra right-wing fascist now in power.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:39 AM
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34. Because in CA, Dems are the only game in town
especially when she started her career. Look, we only get two real choices to express our political views, Repuke or Democratic. She chose the one that had the power and the infrastructure where she lived in order to advance herself. Practical, but not thinking with the heart, no.
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