Howard Dean will on MSNBC at 10:00am EST

[liberalnurse]

and 11:00am CT.....Interview with Chris Jansing post *bush speech.

[IndianaGreen]

1. Thanks for the heads up, liberalnurse!

For us Hoosiers, that's 9 AM.

[liberalnurse]

2. I'll tell ya this....

I live about 25 minutes from Richmond...and go there for classes at Indiana Wesleyan....The time switch drives me nutz..... I'm class President and have to be the one who keeps everyone on target....

[Woodstock]

3. kick

:kick:

[unfrigginreal]

4. I thought they said 11:00am ET...

I'm glad I saw your post I might have missed it.

Did you catch him on the network shows this morning? He looked great! Best I've seen from him...he showed real gravitas.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

5. Missed it...details?

I'm in a car, going to the airport, couldn't see it. What did he say?

[unfrigginreal]

13. Here's a link to the NBC interview

http://www.msnbc.com/news/951994.asp?0cv=CA01

About one third of the way down the page.

[spooky3]

6. I hope it's 11 AM

I've been watching since 10 EDT and he has not been on nor have they mentioned it as an upcoming segment.

[burr]

12. This happens to me all the time...

aint those cable networks great? We pay for news and get this shit! x(

[liberalnurse]

7. I'm still waitng......

I don't know what MSNBC is up too.....Maybe at the end of the hour...

They apparently get more milage out of teasing us.....:crazy:

[RevolutionStartsNow]

8. did you see the network appearances?

Curious to hear what he said...
I was waiting with 1200 others last night in San Jose while he worked on his response...

[Rose Siding]

9. I saw a couple

He had the chance to clean up the two points jumped on re: debate. One that he DIDN'T say he'd bring ALL the troops home now- didn't get into the labor issue, but said the reporters could listen to the 70 speeches he gives each week to see he hasn't changed. (love it when he slaps the media!)

Of the 87 Bil, he said he hadn't seen any workup of how Bush arrived at that amount but the glaring ommission is an exit strategy. Also made a big point- out of the gate- that Bush had been deceptive about Saddam being part of a terror threat to the US.

Here in Seattle, his appearances were sandwiched btwn ads for Dean- simple, sincere, determined. (yay)

edit- There's a link down in the center of this page to the Today interview-

http://www.msnbc.com/news/951994.asp?0si=

[Woodstock]

10. That's right, he's been saying all along

bring them home but we have to clean up the mess first

I love it when the media grabs onto one appearance and takes it out of context (a la Judy Woodruff), when all they have to do is look on his site or at the other 99% of his appearances to get the context and the full story. His views on Iraq have been remarkably consistent.

[janx]

11. The cable channels do that all the time,

just to keep you watching the commercials and the fluff.

[liberalnurse]

14. He's comming up in a minute or two....

finally.....

[msanger]

15. looks like 11:00 eastern time

They just showed a short clip of Dean at the top of the hour, and the newscaster will be interviewing him soon.

[sugarcookie]

16. He's up soon I think..

n/m

[Rose Siding]

17. He is tearing it up!

Bush has poisened our relationsship with Europe and America will never regain her position in the world under this president.

[Woodstock]

18. That was a GOOD one!!!

He hit all his points. How much clearer could he get? Let's see them twist those words around. :eyes:

I think they usually put the audio out there somewhere - that's a good one to have/pass along.

[Rose Siding]

20. Yes yes

Good- I'm glad you saw it. I thought he was spot on.

He was serious and determined but soooo substantive. I even thought that Jansen's questions flowed- like she was paying attention or something.

[Woodstock]

21. He said we need to give up some control in Iraq

if we want help from other countries

we need them to help and to bring some of our troops home

that Bush has insulted Europe and damaged our relationship

that Iran and Syria are bigger threats

that we are overextended in Iraq

if something blows up in N. Korea, we don't have the troops to deploy

that N. Korea will become nuclear on Bush's watch

that there is no link between Sadaam and Al Queda

that Bush made the threat of terrorism WORSE by invading

that we need a president who REALLY support the troops, not cuts their pay while they are deployed

...

[Terwilliger]

22. Syria?

a bigger threat?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Mr_Scarecrow]

44. No, he said Iran and North Korea

.

[paulsbc]

23. Syria?

don't tell me he said that...

[Woodstock]

24. I think so - trying to recall all of this by memory

I think instead of threat he said Al Queda links/terrorism

The audio link may be out, but God knows how to find it on this site. MSNBC doesn't have a site search? Just the lousy MSN search?

[Rose Siding]

30. The point was

that we face other threats but we *invaded* Iraq- It was part of saying that he still didn't think Bush had actually told us the REAL reason we invaded Iraq.

It wasn't "oh we should invade syria"! It was, "suppose we find ourselves facing an actual threat- we are spread too thin for reasons yet to be revealed".

[Woodstock]

32. right, he wasn't saying, oh, let's go invade here, there, and everywhere

rather, that the threat of terrorism was greater in places other than Iraq (so the excuse Bush gave for the invasion was false)

[paulsbc]

36. gotcha

thanks, will read the transcript.

[Rose Siding]

19. Did you guys see it?

He said of critical press, Well it's normal they'd try to have a little fun with me but...

Very good stuff.

[unfrigginreal]

25. Another Great Performance...

I've watched this man grow in stature over time...he really did well this morning striking the correct level of seriousness in his replies about a bad situation. I hope that all of the folks that fell for the mainstream media's "he's too liberal to get elected" line take another look at him.

[sandnsea]

26. He was pretty good

He made all the right points but he's really got to loosen up and exhibit more confidence when he says things. And it's not enough to say some quote isn't true, he's got to be able to say why it isn't true. Although I suspect they sprung that on him and he wasn't expecting it. But then, he should always be expecting every possible question. Since he's the one all over the news, I hope he gets a little bit better because he is where people are going to hear the anti-Bush message, at least for a couple of weeks.

[Woodstock]

28. I thought he seemed really confident and on his toes

I didn't really see any weakness in his approach this time.

It was cool that they called him "the Democratic frontrunner."

[Raven]

27. This is exactly why John Kerry is trailing Dean.

Where is Kerry this morning? Why hasn't he spoken up? As a matter of fact, where are all of the Democrats this morning? I've been leaning towards Kerry but I think he's lost me. There is no excuse for him (and the others) not being out first thing today to expose this president as a murderous liar. No guts, no courage.

[gully]

29. Here Here!

There is a reason Howard Dean is #1. He's working his a$$ off, and he's telling it like it is!

[Raven]

34. You know, I'm sitting here today

thinking back to the Vietnam war days. It is amazing to me how little we have learned from that experience. And now we have an administration that is not only dangerous to the world...it threatens us. I never gave a second thought in those days of joining a protest on the Washington Mall...today I'd be certain that there would be a file on me. I think as long as Dean continues to speak, I will feel safe.

[TacticalPeek]

45. However, there were plenty of files back then,

and even presidential fire-bomber squads.

On the Nam, I saw a thread here about daily Iraq/Afghan/"other" costs now running about equal to daily Viet Nam costs.

If you think about it, that is unreal to imagine.

If computer cost/efficiency had declined as much as war-making efficiency has, then I would be keying this into a vacuum tube-based system at 300 baud, with no display, checking my text on a $9000 10 cps printer.

[gully]

46. Interesting thought.

It does lend some comfort in this madness to see a man like Dean speak out. It's an even greater comfort that he is becoming a top tier candidate in spite of his outspoken nature.

I think we are witnessing history in the making with this campaign, I just can't imagine him failing now?

[CWebster]

31. Kerry has another balancing act to consider

Although he colors himself in Democratic shades, he is an establishment politician first. In order to support the status quo he must keep a low profile when voting to fund it.

[Rose Siding]

33. Kerry was the first in one aspect

I think his site had a direct statement from him up first last night after the speech.

But I like the morning after reaction better- it's a little more thoughtfully constructed.

[AP]

35. The media LOVES Dean. I don't know how you can criticize Kerry.

Did MSNBC call him up and tell him they'd report his statement.

I'm sure everyone of the candidates would love to have given their reactions live if the cameras would show up. They're only showing up for Dean.

[CWebster]

37. All the Dems could be putting forth mega-effort to make noise

especially the contenders.

[Rose Siding]

38. I didn't criticize Kerry.

I said he gave his statement first.

The media did show up for Dean, but he was a logical choice for rebuttal, having been a more vocal opposition of the Iraq invasion.

[Raven]

39. John Kerry could get to a media source

if he really wanted to...believe me!

[Woodstock]

40. That is rich

The media has been very critical of Dean. Where have you been?

[Raven]

41. Easy, easy!

I can see this thread developing into a mud match. Everyone wants to believe the best about his/her candidate. I think alot of us who supported Kerry hoped he would take a stronger stand. The fact is that Dean is saying what needs to be said and even if he can't win, we need to support someone with that kind of courage these days.

[Woodstock]

43. I want to believe the truth

I see no change in media coverage of Dean - there is still more criticism than praise. Sorry, I just don't see the Dean love fest. It would be nice, but it just isn't happening. Anyone who goes out on a limb and challenges the head of the Bush Crime Family gets "the treatment." Dean has been more vocal than the others, and he's been the target of the media more as well. Sure, he got his picture on Time and Newsweek, but these articles contained lots of snipes.

[CWebster]

42. he does get a lot of coverage

but he works hard for it and seeks it. He puts himself right out there like it matters - like he filled a vacuum.