NNguyenMD
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:25 PM
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I suppose you would have to include Long Island's Nassau and Suffoux counties in that too.
Don't ask why, but I was listening to a Democratic Councilman of NYC make the case for it on one of the Fox new's shows.
He suggested the state be named "Gotham" "Greater New York" or "The Great Carolina" I have no f---ing clue where he got the idea for that one.
Anyways, he claimed that 80% of polled NYC residents supported the measure. SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!! As an Upstate New York Democratic, you guys are the only reason this state stays Blue, PLEASE DON'T GO!!!
On the bright side, you would in all llikelihood get 2 more Blue senators, a very blue statehouse and Governor.
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:26 PM
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1. Won't happen. NYC is hooked on money from Albany. The |
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City can't support its schools, Medicaid programs, etc. without the money from suburbia and upstate.
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:43 PM
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10. i thought it was just the opposite |
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Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 03:44 PM by ldf
the state is hooked off the money that is paid by nyc, which gets back a lot less than it pays in....?
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and besides, if we were to do anything like that we should become ANOTHER COUNTRY!
get OUT of this disaster called us of a.
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:30 PM
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During the Civil War, the mayor of NYC suggested that it become a "free city" belonging neither to the North or the South.
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:30 PM
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3. fox news, there's your key |
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this is a banana republican senate-gerrymandering-by-secession scheme. get all the new york dems in their own state so the suburban conservatives can get a couple of red senators.
it'll also never fly. texas has a better shot at splitting up, which gets talked about occassionally, but will never go anywhere either.
now, california splitting in two, that's a whole nother story.
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:34 PM
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4. I know what you mean, I grew up in SoCal, Northern and Southern California |
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Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 03:36 PM by NNguyenMD
have two very distinct personalities. I would say Southern being the more conservative of the two, Orange, Riverside, Ventura and San Bernadino Counties off setting LA's populous and faithful blue. SoCal is a lot more purple than people think.
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:37 PM
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6. I hear Pataki often gets his way by playing the Upstate NYS against |
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:41 PM
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7. whaddya mean, "often". that's the ONLY way he gets his way. |
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:43 PM
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9. haha ok sorry for the understatement. Lets hope Spitzer can give this |
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region a nice infusion of blue when he takes over in '06
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:35 PM
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5. No way. There is a better case for DC statehood |
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Sat Jan-22-05 03:42 PM
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8. well, if you're including non-splits, how about statehood for puerto rico? |
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Sat Jan-22-05 08:01 PM
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11. Same thing was suggested in the late 60's |
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Norman Mailer and Jimmy Breslin were championing this cause when I was living there and just turning 18.
In 1969, Norman Mailer and Jimmy Breslin ran on a mayoral platform arguing that the city, needing local control of its services and finances, should become the 51st state. The most inspired part of their proposal contended that the city had dibs on the name “New York.” The rest of the state, they suggested, should be renamed “Buffalo.”
But this of course, will never happen; Albany would have to agree to it, and Albany never will.
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