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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:27 PM
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The freeper thread on the gobal warming news
1. No one knows the difference between climate and weather.
2. No one realizes that an overall increase in global temperature is nevertheless compatible with a cold January day in Green Bay.
3. They're absolutely certain global warming is junk science, but at least half the posts are devoted to trying to figure out how to convert degrees celcius to fahrenheit.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329773/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:28 PM
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1. Global warming is fake
Just ask Michael Crichton.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:30 PM
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4. Yeah, who would want to believe some liberal pointy-headed scientists
What would scientists know about science?

The only scientists that know anything about science are those bought and paid for by the extractive industries.

The others are faithless traitors deserving slow death by burning at the stake, the way Busheviks USED to do it when Bushevikism ruled the world (under another more primitive name of simple aristocratic monarchy before so much Orwellian bullshit was required to convince the Serfs they were free) during the 16th Century.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:34 PM
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9. I'll get my science from a fiction writer thank you very much
Who cares what real scientists have to say!

It's Bush's America!

It's cool to be stupid!
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:29 PM
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2. 4. They're idiots
Why do they resist the obvious? Why?

I guess I answered my own question in the header.
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:29 PM
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3. When It's Too Late...
...they'll blame the Democrats for not doing enough to convince everyone.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:32 PM
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5. these are the same geniuses who disagree with evolution
The problem with global warming is that you can't sum it up in a two sentence sound bite consisting of just one-syllable words.
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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:33 PM
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6. 5. The authoritative source that "put to rest" the myth of global warming
is apparently a partisan, non-peer-reviewed study written by the editor of the newsletter "Access to Energy" and published by the Wall Street Journal in 1997. The author is actually an advisor to Shrub on climate change, or at least used to be.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:33 PM
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7. Woof! Just a big group of rocket scientists over there huh?
I'm so glad that they know better than trained scientists.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:33 PM
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8. I once had a freeper argue the "Ice Cube theory" with global warming
That all those glaciers melting is like an ice cube in a glass of water. When the ice cube melts in the water there is no net gain and/or loss since the solid form of the water displaced the liquid form.

Of course the dumbass never once considered that in global warming the "ice cubes stick up outside of the glace" and that all that ice sticking up out of the water has no place to go if it melts
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:41 PM
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12. I hope you still have time to edit
cause you're not looking too smart yourself.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:42 PM
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14. No, it's what she's arguing against that doesn't look smart.
That is, the idea that glaciers float around on water, and not on land.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:47 PM
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17. You and she are right
I'm wrong. Sorry
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:48 PM
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18. Apology accepted.
Now go to your local library and pick up some science books.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:42 PM
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13. That and the ice that melts
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 04:43 PM by StClone
Is now on land in the Antarctic and in Greenland glaciers. Appreciable melt will rise the water level exacerbated by thermal expansion of warmer water.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:06 PM
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29. I actually heard with my own ears Rush Limbaugh make that argument
And it would be a legitimate argument if there was no ice melting from on top of land but alas most of the ice that is melting is from above ground glaciers and such. And he is supposed to be their smartest guy.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:26 PM
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32. He knows what the truth is, he as to pander to the fools to make a buck.
Rush is no dumb ass. His listeners are. Just like the freepers and fundies that vote against their best interests. Rush plays them like an old bass fiddle.

I think that Rush could say he had an epiphany and changed to a liberal and he could play us just like he plays them now.

He make a ton of money just like a con man would.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:17 PM
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30. Ummm....
Water expands when if freezes. Thus ice floats. The frozen bit has the same mass as the water it displaces. Once it melts, the water level doesn't change.

I hope I never have to say this again as long as I live, but the freeper was right.

The problem is the Antarctic ice sheet (that sits on land). Greenland ice sheet. That kind of stuff. Plus, all the fresh water released into the Gulf Stream by the Arctic ice melting.


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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:35 PM
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10. I've enjoyed watching the RW morph their thinking on Global Warming
First it was:
"Global Warming Doesn't Exist"
Then it was:
"Global Warming exists, but it doesn't matter"
Then it was:
"Global Warming exists, does matter, but isn't cause my man" (So why should we do anyting about it)

The smart ones are going
"How can I make a buck off of Global Warming"


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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:00 PM
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21. Invest in beachfront property in Arkansas. n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:13 PM
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26. I enjoy the fact the Limbaugh's home is right on the Atlantic
Wouldn't be a shame if it gets destroyed by high surf? Perhaps he could create a barrier out of Oxycontin vials.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:39 PM
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11. I have a tough time believing it...
...that and how does my spraying deodorant in Michigan deplete the ozone layer over Antartica?
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:43 PM
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16. That's alright.
In fifty years people will be looking back at comments like that and shaking their heads.
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MARALE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:43 PM
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15. I love this one
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 04:43 PM by MARALE
the progression from Farenheit to Celcius and vice-versa is not linear

Must not be a math major. Maybe its logrithmic. LOL!!!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:54 PM
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19. Funny.
As a math teacher, the Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion is a classic for demonstrating graphing a linear relationship. That ol' boy must have been absent on that day.

--IMM
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:21 PM
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31. Shit!
That means all those years I spent getting math degrees were wasted. My god, they taught me it was linear. I'll sue!


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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:58 PM
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20. Selective Science
Technology is consumed by Wingers.

Science incorporated in to cars, computers, medicine is readily accepted with a smile and a "what will they think of next" nod of acceptance.

But when it comes to selected Science well those aren't real or it's done by pin-headed elites to support tree worshipers.

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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:06 PM
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24. Selective Science, yes, but the sad truth is...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:07 PM by ultraist
There are more educated Republicans than educated Democrats. Must be the religious thing that interferes with their reasoning.

"As far as income levels go, the least well-off are overwhelmingly Democratic: Those earning less than $20,000 a year call themselves Democratic 43 percent to 18 percent and those earning $20,000 to $30,000 Democratic 37 percent to 24 percent. Those making between $30,000 and $50,000 are Democrats, 34 percent to 30 percent, while those making between $50,000 and $75,000 are more Republican, 35 percent to 29 percent. People who make $75,000 or more are strongly GOP, 39 percent to 28 percent.

Because education levels track income levels, there's few surprises on how educational attainment affects partisanship. Just as with income, as educational levels go up, more people are inclined to be Republican. Americans with less than a high-school education are overwhelmingly Democratic, 41 percent to 20 percent, while people who have just a high-school degree are Democrats, 34 percent to 28 percent. People with some college training tend to be Republicans, 32 percent to 31 percent while those with at least bachelor's degrees are Republican, 33 percent to 32 percent. I've seen other surveys on partisanship that show people with advanced degrees to be more Democratic than Republican, making those just bachelor's degrees more Republican if they're broken out of all those with some sort of a college degree.

Religiously, Jews are stauchly Democratic, 55 percent to 18 percent, and likewise atheists favor Democrats, 31 percent to 15 percent. Unfortunately for Democrats, white Catholics have been trending Republican in recent decades, and the survey I'm using to write this put white Catholics at 32 percent Democratic and 31 percent Republican. White Protestants are overwhelmingly Republican, 40 percent to 26 percent. Of those, evangelical Protestants are even more Republican compared with mainline Protestant denominations. Additionally, the more orthodox views and the greater frequency of church attendence white Christrians have, the more likely they are to be Republican. "http://usconservatives.about.com/od/politics/a/GOPDemDemo.htm

(yes, the source is red, but the stats are correct)

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:31 PM
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28. I think that says something about the education system.
1) Education is expensive. If Repubs have more money, they will be more successful at sending their kids on for higher education. Creates a self-affirming loop. NOTE: Grants, favoring the poor, are disappearing. Loans, favoring the wealthy, are up.

2) Higher education is not about education, it is about job training. I don't consider someone with an MBA to be really educated -- the MBA may know, or think he knows, a lot about one sector of life, but he likely passed over the poli-sci, the philosophy, the literature courses whenever possible. They did nothing to improve his bottom line. A person with a Doctorate in physics is likely to be an idiot about the humanities, just as a PhD in Renaissance Lit will be a moron about particle physics.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:01 PM
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22. I would laugh at them but
Look at some of the posts on our side (Not necessarily here at DU, but by supposed Environmental activists)


1. They don't know the difference between climate and weather either.

2. Beleive if they don't know the answer. Just make up something outrageous to capture a headline.
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:04 PM
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23. Fucking morons, laughing about something that could kill us all
:grr:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:11 PM
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25. "Bring em on!"
It's mindset, a rigid worldview, a blind allegiance to what they believe is "RIGHT and GOOD." I tend to see it as a mental illness of sorts.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:19 PM
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27. Global warming is even worse than thought.
The world is likely to heat up by an average of 11°C by the end of the century, the biggest ever study of global warming.

http://news.google.ca/news?q=global+warming&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=nn&oi=newsr
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:33 PM
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33. Yep... but the RWers either don't care or don't want to believe
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