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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:26 PM
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How do you feel about Kerry vs Dean on the War?
your thoughts here
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:29 PM
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1. I feel Kerry did what he really thought was right for this country
I think Dean could say anything he wanted - after all, he did not have a VOTE and did not need to answer to those who elected him.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:31 PM
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2. Doesn' the aftermath bother you?
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 09:32 PM by wuushew
Not the actual vote, but the lack of an apology in the aftermath.

I mean he must have believed that Iraq was a threat or otherwise he is justifying destroying the governments of other nations for unlawful reasons
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:36 PM
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5. An apology?
in a nutshell - Kerry gave that idiot several chances to take alternate avenues. The idiot did not need anyone's vote to go to war. Clinton went without congress. I honestly believe that those that voted for the resolution wanted to hold idiot-boy accountable - he would have gone anyway. This was their chance to force him before the UN.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:31 PM
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3. ya think so eh?
so do you think he was right?

has this turned out to be what's right for the country?
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:38 PM
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8. Yes, Govenors can't vote but they can speak their thoughts.
The Democrats that voted for Bush's request for broader war powers did so because they were protecting their political careers. I would not allow that one issue to keep me from voting for a candidate if they are THE candidate.

However, I believe Dean's position is right on. We may need to go to war in the future. I would like someone who would put more thought into it than Bush did. I think Dean would have pursued a more diplomatic approach. Further, I believe he is right that we refocused our energies on Iraq and in doing so lost much if not all of our gain in Afghanistan.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:31 PM
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4. i differed from both
i was opposed to war even with united nations backing. i also opposed sanctions and the almost daily bombings for over a decade.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:38 PM
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6. Kerry hasn't been clear where he stands.
One minute he is condemning Howard Dean, the next he is saying it wasn't his intent to give a blankcheck, so I'm not sure what to believe.

Kerry *didn't* support Gulf War1, and spinning this should Kerry win the election will prove difficult.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:38 PM
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7. You had it right with the header, not the text
To whit: there's precious little thinking involved on this one, it's all emotions.

Deandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandean.

Mighty silly. Groupthink makes me barf. Groupfeel makes me scream.

Isn't it enough to just be on the side of the frontrunner? Must all opposition be obliterated? Yeeks.
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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 09:42 PM
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9. The War
Dean took a risky position early on, and a fundamentally morally superior one. He turned out to be right and deserves a lot of credit for it.

Kerry played it safe and now wants to have it both ways, and he deserves to be derided for it.
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:56 PM
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11. Dean had nothing to risk compared to Kerry
I guess it's easier to be "morally superior" when you're not obligated to make a decision, just commenting from the sidelines.
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OrdinaryTa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:47 PM
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10. There's No Reason to Trust Kerry
If all you had to go on was Kerry's deplorable vote on the war, that would be enough in itself. But Kerry has made a career of talking one way and acting another. If he's elected President, we'll never get a straight answer from him.

Even here, the Kerry apologists re-interpret his decisions so they aren't as obnoxious as they appear. This is what we have to look forward to with a Kerry White House. Nothing will be what it seems to be.

Given the choice to approve or oppose the invasion of Iraq, Kerry chose to approve it. Now we're being told it's really a lot more complex than it appears, etc. Bullshit! He did what he did.

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