Military morality????Where???!!

[undergroundpanther]

Soldiers are taught to be loyal not to themselves, not to listen to their own integrity.

They are trained, no, broken down psychologically, until they are willing to follow the state’s orders instead of their own sense of right and wrong, or anything which might conflict with the state.
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Answer to a military man


While you were busy attacking the morals of servicemembers, remember that you openly admit that, in your "enlightened" state, you could not handle the challenge of military service.

Thomas M. —

No. It isn't that I can't do shit like climb walls, say yes sir, or shoot guns (I'll need my glasses tho). The military is just not a healthy challenge I would remotely want to be involved in.

Underground Panther in the Sky...
I can say NO to any challenge any yahoo puts out. I have no pride to wound. I don't care about what people say anymore. I am tired of playing P.R. What you see is what you get here.

As for turning your challenge down, I don't enjoy being abused by authoritarian types and brainwashed into thinking I am a gun. I've got self-respect, self-interest, integrity, and I always pick my own priorities, you know. You DO remember how to pick your own priorities and say no, don'tcha?...
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[KharmaTrain]

1. So Many In The Military Are Conflicted

Recently I talked with a returned Iraqi veteran...sucked up via the National Guard and spent the better part of a year around Baghdad (he said he really didn't remember all the places he was...he never was more than a few feet away from the rest of his unit at all times). He was both pro and anti war...

Pro...as in in favor of what our military stood for and how it operated in Iraq. Anti, since he didn't think this regime knows what it's doing and is abusing the military...tying it down to long years of war and death. He didn't question the motives of the war or what we are there. Admitting those things were wrong would totally destroy whatever credibility he had in the military and probably in this country. That happened in Vietnam, and I suspect one day we'll see the same thing about Iraq. Unfortunately that time isn't here yet. Not enough dead, not enough broken lives.

[DebJ]

2. 'military morality' is like 'business ethics"...oxymoron?