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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:13 PM
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Bush's new "MIRACLE-LIFE" gimmick! Age 54 is now "Young!"
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 08:13 PM by Bluebear
Bush's plan would cut guaranteed retirement benefits for younger Americans but would not affect checks for people now 55 and older.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050202/us_nm/bush_dc_13

I heard Scott McClellan making the talk show rounds today yapping the same meme over and over. "YOUNGER" Americans will be involved in this new SSI scam, not those "nearing retirement". read the statement again. If you are 54 or younger, your social security check WILL be affected.

Fellow babyboomers! We are instantly young again in Bush's New America! Invest those benefits! You've got at least a decade to make them provide for your old age! So put on your 8-track of "That's The Way (uh-huh uh-huh) I Like It" and grab a Kool-Aid...we're young again wheeeeeee!

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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:17 PM
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1. Because "nearing retirement" already means, what, 67, 68?
Why is it that we want SO much for ourselves that we can't take care of people when they're old? Don't WE want to be taken care of when WE'RE old?

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:18 PM
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2. The GOP loves the fetus till its born and the old until they want benefits
That's about what it is boiling down to.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:21 PM
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3. LOL
I will be 55 in 6 months. I guess I won't be wearing a purple dress and red hat after all. Hahahahaha

:yourock:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:22 PM
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4. Bryn welcome to DU!!!
And hey, you got a got 30 years of work left in ya, don't you? Don't you? :)
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:11 PM
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20. Go where the Wind blows
Thanks for the welcome ... I still plan on taking early retirement this October. I will just go where the wind blows and see what happens. Maybe I will go back to college and learn something else since I am still too young, Bush said so!!

Bryn :headbang:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:38 AM
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23. Purple and Red any ol' time!
I hit doubble 5s in April and I'm I get more grey hair each time I see that smirking bu$h. I think he is trying to piss us off to death. Then they won't have to pay back the $$$$ they already stole from social security...

OOOOOOHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM

Namaste!

OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

He won't get me!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:18 AM
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27. Hi Bryn!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:22 PM
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5. This si so funny! I saw my doctor on Monday and when she told me
I needed to have a physical every year NOT every 5 years like my previous doctors had recommended I told her other doctors had said once every five years and she started to giggle. I asked her what was so funny and she said. Once every five years is the recommendation for a healthy person in their 20's.

I said well I'm not THAT old and she started to giggle again and then said "well your as young as you feel, but Mrs XXXX, you are ALMOST 40!"

I was really offended but she said "Now don't get me wrong I'm 35 I know you probably don't FEEL "old" and technically you are in great shape, but you are at the age when yearly monitering is important to your well-being!"

This is the first time in my life that I am attempted to agree with bush, if only to save face!

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:24 PM
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8. Clearly he is relying on our vanity to buy into this crap
Who want to face our retirement and ultimate mortality? As long as we co-opt his "we're younger Americans" line, he can convince us that working at Home Depot at 75 is cool!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:23 PM
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6. "And we'll have fun-fun-fun 'til they take our rusty wheelchairs a-way!"
Whoa, I turned the double-nickel last year, but my wife's still got five years to go. I'd better not go home tonight!

Yep, those dreams of retiring early have long evaporated, and have been replaced with the cold grey reality of having to work until age...70? 75? Is that still too young?

Ugh. :grr:

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:30 PM
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10. But, but, we'll have "Personal Retirement Accounts"!
The stock market will boom! Why, just think, you could put your benefits in a company like Enron and be living on easy street!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:41 AM
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24. See there he is trying to piss us off to death!
We are self employed.... no chance to retire untill the 12th of never!

Unless we sell out... buy the motor home and hit the road now.

JUST MIGHT!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:52 PM
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29. Darn you, KrazyKat! I nearly bit my tongue laughing!
Now I'll have that song in my head for the rest of the day!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:23 PM
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7. So glad that
I have other plans and have never figured on SS to see me through.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:29 PM
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9. I'm happy for you!
But, some of us didn't make plans and have made it through life by the skin of our pants and SS will come in very nicely for us.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:43 PM
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12. I'm just lucky
because when I had a regular job I never made much to put in so counting on it I knew would be a mistake. I feel for those who put in and now will be screwed. :hug:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:31 PM
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11. That's awesome! But I bet you are 1 out of 100!
Those living paycheck to paycheck could be in for serious trouble.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:47 PM
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15. I know
there is going to be dark days ahead for so many. :-(
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:59 PM
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19. Maybe we'll start forming communes again
Stretch those food dollars, er cat food dollars! We may have to start living together in our dotage to save money!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:44 AM
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25. Roving Communes on Wheels
See the country and stay in the Blue States....Hurry through the Red States...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 05:56 AM
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26. Not even close to 1out of 100 and since
my husband and I are 53 and 52, I guess we are screwed! GD bu$h and the MePublicans! :mad:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:45 PM
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13. CBS new focusing on Britain's privatized pensions.
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 08:47 PM by Cleita
This was Maggie Thatcher's doing and now British pensioners are reduced to poverty and like one retiree said he was left with nothing.
The irony. The British are now talking about correcting this by adopting our system.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:22 AM
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22. Bush uses Chile as a model for this
Yet Chile's system is failing. Big surprise!
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:46 PM
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14. ahem
54 is young...well, it's certainly not OLD for crying out loud!

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:48 PM
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16. 54 is not young in the scheme of retirement planning.
For all of us born in the 50's, we are screwed if this goes through. P.S. you look mahhvelous. No really, you do!
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:51 PM
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17. yes....I do....kiss!
those of us born IN 1950 are not screwed. We're saved!

All the rest of you? Get off your damned lazy asses and find yourselves some rich parents! What's wrong with you anyway?
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:21 PM
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21. We're screwed if it's passed before our birthday this year
I won't be 55 til the end of June.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:51 PM
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18. that figures. "55 years old. Wow! That is really old."
--from Bush's letter to "Kenny Boy" Lay.

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/puredubya2002.shtml
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:30 AM
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28. Nice find, Lisa
The entire quote is thus:

"55 years old. Wow! That is really old. Thank goodness you have such a young, beautiful wife."
-- Birthday card to Enron Chairman Kenneth Lay, 1997
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 05:08 PM
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30. What frosts my cookies
Is the Bush voters who are 55+ get to keep their full benefits while screwing things up for the rest of us! That's just not right, especially since people my age were already working and paying high FICA when the last screwball Republicans raised taxes even higher so they could keep their promise to people like me!

So, if you believe this is about saving SS for the young people, that means they'll have plenty of time to stash away a nest egg, and the people 55+ will be fine, but those of us between, say, 35-54 lose big.
Isn't that wonderful?

Since our taxes were raised in 1983 because the last batch of Repub shysters it was necessary to promise us our money would be there when we retired, can't we sue the government for "our" money?
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 05:12 PM
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31. But YOU aren't going to get to invest those benefits.
Bush is creating an agency to do that for you. In fact, YOU won't be allowed to touch -your- investment portion. Not to invest it, not to pull it out and go on a bender, not to pay for your funeral and not to take care of your family after you're gone.

So, except for what it's going to cost in admin fees, (and the fact that your family will get none of it) what's the difference in the way you get to handle your SS now?

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