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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:46 PM
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Bill O'Reilly is a Sexual Harasser, but Remarks on Bill Clinton


Bill O'Reilly made obscene phone calls to Andrea Mackris between May 2002 and July 2004. She was a producer of his tv show "The O'Reilly Factor" during some of that time.

The legal complaint Andrea Mackris made against him strongly suggests that Bill O'Reilly sexually harasses and/or has extramarital affairs with other women who work on "The O'Reilly Factor."

If you are unfamiliar with this issue, you can read one of the two previous articles I wrote by clickng below:

Part 1:Bill O Reilly Told His Producer She Has Spectacular Boobs and O Reilly Also Cheats on His Wife (article includes recent audio from a contest by The Al Franken Show)

Part 2:Bill O Reilly Is a Hypocrite Who Rants Against "Secularists"

Bll O'Reilly on President Bill Clinton


Bill O'Reilly's own behavior hasn't stopped him from blathering about "value-based judgments" and "discipline."

Bill O'Reilly said on Aug. 7, 2001 about the Paula Jones' sexual harassment suit against Bill Clinton ("O Reilly on Sexual Harassment: In His Own Words" by fair.org via Common Dreams, Oct. 25, 2004):

There is a strong movement in America to remove any kind of value-based argument. We see this all the time.... Public officials have the right to lie about sex because it is no one's business what they do in private, even if sexual harassment suits are lodged against them, i.e., President Clinton...any Americans simply cannot or will not make judgments about behavior.

The danger here is that the absence of value-based judgments breaks down justice and discipline.

If only all of us could muster the discipline Bill O'Reilly showed when he made unwanted phone calls to Andrea Mackis about her "spectacular boobs." I guess if he chose a phone where his wife couldn't overhear, that shows a degree of discipline.

If Bill O'Reilly is so eager for "judgments about behavior," here is my judgement on his behavior: it's obnoxious.

Bill O'Reilly also wrote a column implying that Bill Clinton was such an object of ridicule because of the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit and resulting Moncia Lewinsky scandal, that it could mean the end of the Democratic Party ("Is the party over?," .Jewish World Review, Apr. 27, 2001):

Bill Clinton has become an easy joke throughout the vast American countryside. And a look at the Electoral College map after the Bush victory confirms the diagnosis; everyday folks have had a belly full of the Clinton shenanigans.

He tried, but Al Gore could not distance himself from Bill Clinton. Gore's defense of the president after the impeachment vote is well remembered. And the Democratic Party as a whole still has not uncoupled itself from the Clinton legacy

The fact that Al Gore got more votes than George W. Bush is conveniently omitted from O'Reilly's essay. It continues:

If the Democratic Party is to regain power it has to disown Bill Clinton and reconnect with everyday Americans who are living the traditional life.

Americans without strong political agendas do not want to be insulted by dishonest rationalizations about tawdry behavior...The party is now a coalition of organized labor, minorities and left-leaning white collars. But to many of the wage-earners eating pancakes at Alice & Joe's, the Democratic leadership is a joke.

Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's moneyman, continues to head the DNC. Sen. Hillary Clinton is still being investigated by the feds for possible vote-buying. Bill Clinton remains under federal investigation for what may have been a violation of the Gratuitous Act. Sen. Robert Torricelli, a powerful Democrat from New Jersey, is being probed for possibly accepting illegal gifts.

Meanwhile there is no Democratic leader offering a new perspective. No one who is willing to come clean on the sordid recent past. No one who realizes the future of politics of America lies in connecting with honest people who expect honest, efficient government.

Until someone in the Democratic Party gets that -- the "Slick Willy" logo will continue to retain its rightful place, spreading mirth and gaiety across the land.

Some of the ironies above

Bill O'Reilly, who makes obscene phone calls and would later settle a sexual harassment suit for $2 million-plus, ponitificating on "everyday Americans who are living the traditional life." and railing against "tawdry behavior."

Bill O'Reilly accusing Democrats of financial sleaze, when the Bush Administration would later go on to spend at least $9 billion in Iraq it can't properly acccount for ("Audit: $9 Billion Unaccounted for in Iraq" by Larry Margasak, AP, Jan. 31, 2005).

The implicit notion of the Bush Administration coming closer to the ideal of "honest, effiicient government" (when it gave $240,000 of our tax dollars to commentator Armstrong Williams to push the "No Child Left Behind Act," among other things.)

Bill O'Reilly's Remarks about a Journalist

Is the standard of behavior for a president regarding sexual harassment more stringent than for news person?

Maybe, but Bill O'Reilly is still a hypocrite.

This is what Bill O'Reilly said about Ohio tv newswoman Catherine Bosley, who didn't harass anyone, but merely participated in wet t-shirt contest ("O Reilly on Sexual Harassment: In His Own Words" by fair.org via Common Dreams, Oct. 25, 2004):

Let's be realistic. Politicians, news people, clergy all have images, and all depend on the trust of the public to succeed. So we have a young woman here who-- anchoring the news, and her pictures are all over the Internet..... So it intrudes on her ability to communicate the news, does it not?

The station has an obligation to put on people who are going to bolster their news image. This woman, in a community like that particularly, but in -- I think in any city in the USA, becomes a joke, and, therefore, the station becomes a joke, and you can't be a joke if you want to compete in the news area.

Are you aware that in every newscaster's contract, there's a moral clause that says, if you embarrass the station publicly in any way, they can let you go.... Once you go public and do something like that, although it's not illegal, it embarrasses your employer because your employer operates on credibility.


Bill O'Reilly made the above remarks on Jan. 23, 2004, when Ohio TV anchor Catherine Bosley resigned after photos of her in a wet t-shirt contest were posted on the internet.

Does the public knowing about Bill O'Reilly telling Andrea Mackris his fantasies of taking a shower with her and rubbing her "spectacular boobs" intrude on his "ability to communicate the news?"

How about his ability to persuade us he believes in "value-based judgments" and "discipline" and "the traditional life?"

Bill O'Reilly uses the word "joke" three times in the above passage to describe the supposed impact on a news broadcast of a news-woman participating in a wet t-shirt contest. Personally, if she had been on the air in Minnesota instead of Ohio, it wouldn't have made me any less likely to watch that broadcast. Catherine Bosley did something unconventional on her free time which didn't hurt anyone, no big deal. Unlike Bill O'Reilly, who caused Andrea Mackris stress with his unwanted obscene phone calls.

Yet Catherine Bosley had to resign from an Ohio tv station, and Bill O'Reilly is still on Fox News.

As far as jokes go, I think this song about Bill O Reilly is pretty funny.

It's time for the public to realize Bill O'Reilly is full of hot air.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:56 PM
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1. It's a crime he is still on the airwaves. Limbaugh too.
"If any woman ever breathed a word, I'll make her pay so dearly that she'll wish she'd never been born.

I'll rake her through the mud, bring up things in her life and make her so miserable that she'll be destroyed.

And besides, she wouldn't be able to afford the lawyers I can or endure it financially as long as I can.

And nobody would believe her, it'd be her word against mine and who are they going to believe? Me or some unstable woman making outrageous accusations?

They'd see her as some psycho, someone unstable."

-Bill O'Reilly
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:59 PM
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2. When I started researching this story, I was
ambivalent about whether it's important enough, but after I found that Bill O'Reilly quote you posted above, I decided it was important to let people know more about who Bill O'Reilly really is:

An obnoxious bully.
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candle_bright Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:14 PM
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5. O'Reilly is a moron
And that quote is scary. Where did that quote come from?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:30 PM
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11. It's a paraphrase by Andrea Mackris in her sexual harassment complaint
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:06 PM
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3. O'Rielly is a disgrace. Fox is the leading employer of tainted persons.
Ollie North, Newt Gingrich, Dick Morris and Alphonse D' Amato are all on the Fox team.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:13 PM
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4. They also let Armstrong Williams come on for softball interviews
to try to get the stink off himself after the public learned he took $240,000 of our tax dollars from the Bush Admin. to promote "No Child Left Behind" in his commentary/interviews.


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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:17 PM
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8. The Fox All Star Disgrace Team. Too bad they don't allow call-ins.
:evilgrin:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:16 PM
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6. Chalres Krauthammer and William Kristol advised
Bush on his inauguration speech, and then commented on it without disclosure.

Two more regulars on Fox News.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:22 PM
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10. Regular disgraces.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:16 PM
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7. Excellent post!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

O'Reilly is a scumbag and hypocrite, a waterdowned televangelist just like his buddy Rush.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:18 PM
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9. Thanks. What does "ultraist" mean? nt
nt
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:14 AM
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