DU groups proposal: Pro-Life Progressives

[Dob Bole]

Please post here if you are interested in supporting the creation of such a group. Sample mission statement is as follows:

"The DU Pro-Life Progressives group seeks to reclaim the term "pro-life" from conservatives who have reduced it to a meaningless vote-grabbing scheme. We are in agreement with Democrats ranging from Ted Kennedy and John Breaux to Hillary Clinton and Dennis Kucinich, who believe that America is a better place when there are fewer abortions.

We welcome dialogue on the best way to decrease the abortion rate, which has risen during the Bush administration; however, our concern does not end there. We respect all human life, oppose capital punishment, and believe that the best government is the government that kills the fewest people. Ours is a consistent life ethic that resides outside of the broken moral compass of the GOP."

Please answer the following questions as well:

1) Are you a DU donor?

2) If not, would you be willing to become a DU donor to support a Pro-Life Progressives forum?

2) If you un-support the creation of this DU group and still feel the need to flame...what's your favorite 'Yo Mama' joke, directed toward my mother?


Thanks for your consideration,

Dob Bole

[Dawgs]

1. Great Idea!!

1) No
2) Yes
3) Yo' Mama's so big... just kidding!!

[Dob Bole]

4. Does 'dawgs' indicate Georgia-ness?

nt

[cags]

2. Heck Yeah,

1.Yes
2.n/a


Come on now everyone, then we can keep these huge abortion arguments out of GD.

[papau]

3. Anti Abortion & pro-Life - but also pro-Choice - why is that combination

hard for the media to accept?

[Dob Bole]

10. confusing wording...

you have to talk to the media verry verrry slowlyyyyy. And then they will still do whatever they want.

[meow2u3]

5. Let's get cracking!

Time to take back the pro-life message from the anti-life conservatives! They've twisted the word pro-life to mean anti-abortion, pro-war, and pro-death penalty, when in fact it really means protecting all life--born and unborn.

If conservatives want to twist progressives' philosophy to further their ends, two can play that game.

[Dob Bole]

6. el kicko por mi proposo

mi spanglish es horrible.

[skjpm]

7. Yes, good idea

It would be a useful place for discussion and present materials so peopeople can see what the progressive pro-life position really means.

[donheld]

8. Can i join? i'm very much in favor of life

but also very much for choice?

[Dob Bole]

9. Yes.

It will be a forum for people who really want to do something about it, and that means being practical. I think that most pro-choice people want a lower abortion rate, and I doubt that anyone on DU would go so far as wanting a constitutional ban on abortion, etc.

So yes...join! I will bake cookies!

[donheld]

11. I can't say i want to lower the abortion rate

I want to clean up the misconception that the majority of abortions are a means of birth control. I think that is a big lie told to us by the far right.

[Djinn]

me neither

I don't feel any pressing desire to lower the abortion rate, I'm all for better sex-ed and better availability/affordability of contraception but basically it's not something people do as a hobby and the numbers of abortions should reflect the numbers of women who get pregnant and don't want a child.

edit - have been a donor - meaning to donate again but havn't go around to it yet

[Dob Bole]

15. True...I think the "abortion as birth control" argument doesn't stick...

to DUers. We understand that these are complex issues. While I would like to see fewer unwanted pregnancies, it gets under my skin that the GOP can claim to be "pro-life" and then turn around and do...well, Iraq.

But then again, they're pure evil.

[uppityperson]

18. Hear hear.

I am in agreement with you. Most abortions are not a means of birth control and I get tired of this slant on it. Can we combine being for life with being for contraception and being for right to choice?

[JohnnyCougar]

19. We most certainly can.

I'm all for birth control pills and contraception. I'm not for laws against abortion, either. It absolutely HAS to be the woman's choice. However, I think it is best to strive to avoid that choice at all costs, since it can be a hurtful choice to the woman either way.

Furthermore, I do see the fetus as a form of life, and I think it should be respected along with all other life.

[Dob Bole]

12. kick for lent/new episode of Smallville

[diamond14]

13. think of a DIFFERENT name...that name is REAL INSULTING to those

of us who have worked hard on PRO-CHOICE issues.....


to frame your debate for DUers....you'll definitely need A DIFFERENT NAME for your group....

[Dob Bole]

17. I understand where you're coming from...

but I think that it's entirely possible to be pro-choice AND pro-life, in terms of the abortion issue. We can't allow Republicans to own the term 'pro-life' when they are busy blowing up the earth.

[ZombieNixon]

14. Good idea!

1) Check the star
2) N/A
2) Yo' mama so fat, ummm...hell, I haven't heard one of these since third grade and can't remember any!

[JohnnyCougar]

16. I'm in.

I am both pro-life and pro choice as well. Prevention from having to make the choice of abortion is the best way of going about things.

Democrats are pro life and peace.

Republicans are pro-war and death.

You either value all life or none of it. With a consistent platform like this, the message sells itself.

[strategery blunder]

20. I have a star, but need to renew it soon...

Count me in!:D

Oh, and for those of you who have posted in this thread saying you don't particularly want to reduce the amount of abortions, sex ed would probably reduce the number of abortions performed, if only slightly, because you're far more likely to impregnate someone with unprotected sex than you are if you use condoms.

[More Than A Feeling]

21. I will join.

Nice to be in a place that would understand that I don't want to outlaw abortion, merely reduce it through social programs.

1. no
2. yes
3. yo mama's so fat, she's on both sides of the family! (its been so long, I couldn't resist:))

[Dob Bole]

24. last kick

[usregimechange]

22. You have my support. nt

[banana republican]

23. There is a paradox that needs resolving.

On the one hand(and justly so) we criticize the pukes for their anti-life stand in Iraq.

One the other hand We as Dem's. tend to condone abortion (think of this as pro-death' although I feel there are reasons for allowing it).

These two issues need to be reconciled from an ethical standpoint.

If this issue can be reconciled in the new forum DO IT.

[jab105]

25. I support this also.

thanks!