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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:42 PM
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Talon is the enemy, not Gannon
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 12:44 PM by BurtWorm
Let's keep things straight here. Gannon is a tool of Talon. Talon is a tool of the GOP--of the very sordid underbelly of the GOP, the one that has its hands in every filthy scandal from Iran/Contra, through Impeachment, to Plamegate--and even in the Rodney King affair--courtesy of the sleazebag Eberle brothers, Bobby and Bruce. If you want to keep your eye on the prize, keep your eye on the Eberles. Gannon/Guckert is fuckert. But Talon lives to propagandize another day. If we let them.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:43 PM
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1. Rodney King?
I missed their involvement in that one...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:44 PM
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2. Checkout this dkospedia entry on Bruce Eberle
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 12:48 PM by BurtWorm
http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Bruce_Eberle

Bruce Eberle is founder of MillionsofAmericans.com conservative web site which was later folded into GOPUSA, a website and organization owend and operated by his brother Bobby Eberle <1> president and CEO of both GOPUSA and Talon News. Bruce is CEO of Virginia-based Eberle Communications Group, a vast fundraising/direct mail/PR powerhouse that boasts such clients as Ronald Reagan (well, when he was alive, I assume ... although his death was actually great PR too), Operation Rescue, Oliver North and Paula Jones, and which illegally sold fund-raising lists to John Ashcroft during his failed United States Senate run for the seat from Missouri.

...

Eberle clients have reportedly included former U.S. president Ronald Reagan; Oliver North, who was a central figure in the Iran/Contra scandal of the latter Reagan years in the White House; and former Los Angeles police officers Stacey Koon and Laurence Powell, who were sentenced to serve 30 months apiece in jail for allegedly committing the videotaped beating of motorist Rodney King in 1992. Their appeals said they were "political scapegoats of black radicals and self-serving liberal politicians."

...

Bruce is listed as board memebr to Joe Gibb's Youth for Tomorrow foundation, who have such luminaries as Oliver North and Brit Hume who is the Managing Editor, Fox News on its board as well.
He is also on the board of directors for the Time of Grace Ministries.


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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:55 PM
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8. Sad to see Joe Gibbs tied in with morans.
Also. you're right. Talon is the culprit and long-term issue. "Gannon" is their scapegoat du jour.

He does deserve to be skewered - and good - but Talon needs to be exposed for what they are.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:44 PM
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3. Not to mention
that they are a prime source for terrorist chatter.

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:12 PM
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14. Hmmm, they are???
Well, that sure as hell would explain a lot.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:15 PM
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27. Yep, I've been posting about these guys
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:49 PM
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4. True. I am amazed this stuff leads back to Paula Jones!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:42 PM
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19. You are? Paula Jones was a patsy for the extreme right wing.n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:01 PM
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24. Not surprised in that way, surprised these people are the same
ones that backed her bs.

:hi:

I can't stand Paula Jones.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:49 PM
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5. Who is Talon, Exactly?
I assumed it was Gannon's personal creation, but maybe not. Any word on who started it, when, and who else is involved? How they're funded and what other stories they're responsible for?

There's more to this story.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:51 PM
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6. The Eberle brothers. Bruce is someone to keep your eyes on
http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Bruce_Eberle


Eberle clients have reportedly included former U.S. president Ronald Reagan; Oliver North, who was a central figure in the Iran/Contra scandal of the latter Reagan years in the White House; and former Los Angeles police officers Stacey Koon and Laurence Powell, who were sentenced to serve 30 months apiece in jail for allegedly committing the videotaped beating of motorist Rodney King in 1992. Their appeals said they were "political scapegoats of black radicals and self-serving liberal politicians."

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:46 PM
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22. funny how that works...note that CNN/Fox do not look into Talon
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:51 PM
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7. time to dig.. i bet all roads lead to rove/shrub
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:59 PM
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9. Bet you are right....
All roads lead to Rove.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:03 PM
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10. Did Talon play any role in the Swiftboat liar thingy?
It's all connected, bank on it.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:05 PM
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11. I've nominated this for the Homepage 'cause...
...I think EVERYONE needs to be aware of the ties here.

Thank you.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:09 PM
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12. Any connections to Pnac?
I don't have the time to search, but consider it a possibility!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:22 PM
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15. Don't know. They're more paleo than neo. Here're some leads to look into
Wish I could focus on this instead of my job. ;)


http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Eberle_Communications_Group


Eberle Communications Group, is a fundraising/direct marketing/PR firm with extensive ties to Republican Party politics (clients list includes Reagan, Ollie North, Paula Jones) and whose is CEO of the Virginia-based company is Bruce Eberle, whose brother owns GOPUSA and the "news agency" Talon News and its White House correspondent Jeff Gannon is well-known for asking loaded pro-Republican questions at White House press briefings, and appears to be more a political organization than a media outlet.

The ECG family of companies include:


Bruce W. Eberle & Associates, Inc.
Fund Raising Strategies, Inc.
InternetFundRaising.com, Inc.
Campaign Funding Direct, Inc.
Omega List Company
onlineresponsesystem.com
Kaleidoscope Publishing, Ltd.
ECG's Board of Directors is listed on 1/31/05 as consisting of:


Jon Bruss
Carl T. Berquist
Katherine M. Eberle
Peter Hannaford
James M. Irving
ECG's Company Officers are listed on 1/31/05 as:


Bruce Eberle, President, Eberle Communications Group, Inc.
William D. Griffiths, Vice President
Sandra J. Redhage, Corporate Secretary
M. Declan Bransfield, III, President, Bruce W. Eberle & Associates, Inc.
Michael Hiban, President, Omega List Company
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:11 PM
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13. BINGO.
Exactly. Don't watch the shells, watch the guy MOVING the shells around.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:37 PM
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17. In Talon's case, we gotta watch the guy moving the "shills" around.
;-)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:37 PM
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16. The gay sex angle is the wrong angle, folks.
He's a media whore. A MEDIA whore. Please!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:06 PM
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25. I disagree and here's why
First and foremost this has nothing to do with being gay.

This has to do with the hypocrisy of being antigay and then finding out that you were possibly gay all along. Jeff Gannon was very vocal about Bush's Marriage Amendment and anti-gay rhetoric. Now we find out that he might have been gay or at least promoting gay websites.

It's the hypocrisy and I feel Jeff Gannon is as equally responsible as Talon news. Gannon was the one who said "Bring it On" to the the bloggers, DU and Media Matters. This is karma and he ass just got bit big time by it
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:28 AM
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28. I agree he got what was coming to him and I have no sympathy for him.
But the crux of this whole Gannongate scandal is that this no-nothing robot got access to the WH press room just so the Bushists could have a tool for propagandizing the unwashed winger masses. It's a slightly more subtle but vastly more important issue, the contempt the Bushists have for the first amendment. And it is really underscored by the number of times they criminally use the press (through bribes paid for with public tax dollars) to attack political opponents or push their agenda.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:40 PM
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18. Good point
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:43 PM
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20. No, but the karmic irony is just too delicious to pass up
This guy has, alongside his male gay porn websites, Family and Family Values websites?!

TYPICAL Reprobate hypocrisy -- and it's VERY telling!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:44 PM
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21. Precisely. And, as I posted in a related thread, it is essential....
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 02:45 PM by understandinglife
.....to graph the links of "Buckhead," Eberle, "Gannon", Hannity as the DU, DK, Media Matters investigation proceeds. You are correct that the Eberle brothers are a major node in that graph.

Here's one key DU link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=835262

I remember others, both here and at DK.

I suspect Mary Mapes and Dan Rather would find all these threads of some interest.

Peace.


BE THE BU$H OPPOSITION; 24/7



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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:48 PM
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23. Gannon's owners are the enemy. n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:13 PM
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26. I think 'Gannon' will lead to more....
not unlike the 'third-rate burglary' that started Watergate. Start with 'Gannon', find the links and I honestly believe the REAL story, the one the bush cabal/rove are working very desperately to cover up, will emerge.

Does anyone else get the sense that there is a GREAT deal of concern about this emanating from the White House, I sure do!
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:46 PM
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29. The White House is the enemy, not Talon.
It was the White House that gave Gannon two years' of press passes without clearing him through Congress like what was required of all other press corps members.

Without the passes, neither Talon nor Gannon would be in the news at all.

It looks arranged to me. Arranged between the White House and Gannon. Don't tell me it's not. The W.H. keeps strict control of the press members allowed in. There's nothing they don't know about them.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:53 PM
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30. Better said!
:toast:

"This is the cat that ate the rat that ate the cheese...."

Or

"This is the slime that covered the muck that swallowed the shit..."
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:01 PM
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31. I agree. It's further evidence of fraud being committed by the WH.
The WH is wielding deceptive, manipulative propaganda against the American people and this is simply another substantive piece of evidence!!!

The continuing pattern of deception in order to manipulate people into doing what they would not otherwise do if they had the facts demonstrates that the neoCONspirator-controlled WH is committing fraud against our people!!!

It's a damned outrage!!!! :mad:
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:18 PM
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33. Get at the WH through Talon
Not either or. Dig Dig Dig re: the Eberle's.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:03 PM
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32. and Gannon can damage Talon
even just the gay angle exposes hypocrisy.

But it's looking like there's something bigger than that. Something illegal.
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