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Thu Feb-10-05 01:02 PM
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Freepers try to defend Gannon escort services |
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:03 PM
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1. Could you post some choice snippets? |
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I don't want to soil my browser.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:05 PM
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3. Too hard to read their format |
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Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 01:27 PM by cabbage08
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:09 PM
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5. I don't usually slow down for Freepers, but since you asked. |
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To: Pyro7480 gay prostitution
That sounds like a cause the libs champion. Was there as much ruckus generated from the left when Barney Fwanks congrssional apartment was found to be a gay brothel?
6 posted on 02/10/2005 8:19:56 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!) To: Pyro7480 Why would the leftwingnuts have a problem with "gay prostitution"? Now that would definitely be news.
10 posted on 02/10/2005 8:22:48 AM PST by muawiyah ((how cynical can we sound today)) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: Pyro7480 If it's all true, I don't see how the left could push the story too hard. Arn't they the one's who say most often that sex and lieing about sex shouldn't count?
11 posted on 02/10/2005 8:22:57 AM PST by pnome < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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Thu Feb-10-05 10:26 PM
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Why would the leftwingnuts have a problem with "gay prostitution"? Now that would definitely be news.
Prostitution is sexual exploitation. I have a problem with that. Don't you, Mr muawiyah?
If it's all true, I don't see how the left could push the story too hard. Aren't they the one's who say most often that sex and lieing (sic) about sex shouldn't count?
In my posts on the subject today, I called that angle of the story a red herring. I hope Mr. Gannon gets some help, as his cavorting with prostitutes is destructive to other people. Nevertheless, it is destructive neither to American democracy nor the institution of a free and independent press.
However, the White House's use of Mr. Gannon undermines the institution of a free and independent press, as do paying pundits to champion the administration's programs and paying a PR firm to produce a pseudo-news report on Medicare reform. As a citizen, I have a serious problem with that and as a taxpayer I have a problem with Bush's use of public funds to produce political propaganda for his benefit.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:28 PM
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16. It's all because Kos was hired by Dean, Franks has a lisp and the liberal |
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media planted this guy...
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:33 PM
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18. that graphic is hilarious! |
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:40 PM
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I see three themes currently. Try to bring in Frank ( I guess all gays are familiar with prostitution), attack us for making an issue about sex (tying it to Clinton), and an ecuse for them to rip apart all reporters personal lives!!
To: Pyro7480 Would the paragraph read accurately if it was posed as...
"The issue here is whether someone (Barney Frank) with connections to male prostitution was given unfettered access to Congress and copies of internal CIA documents.
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They ain't throwing spitwads, folks. If you're going to play in the big leagues, you'd better be able to take what's coming at you. By the way, the reason the "it's only about sex and it's nobody else's business" arguments don't apply to conservatives is because violation of our wedding vows is against OUR stated beliefs (including his stated, as he claims to be a conservative Christian). Best lesson of the day: either keep your skirts clean or your head down, and even if you keep your skirts clean, they'll still try to nail you. To them, his sin was supporting Bush, not the sex thing. The sex thing was just the tool.
The issue here is whether someone with connections to male prostitution was given unfettered access to the White House Really? What about Barney Franks. Is that an 'issue'? And he's not just a reporter.
It won't be that hard to expose the private lives of the media, they have opened Pandora's box by doing this.
Great point. Now reporters' private lives are fair game?
30 posted on 02/10/2005 8:35:44 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies >
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To: frogjerk There is no source for that information.
31 posted on 02/10/2005 8:36:49 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies >
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To: roses of sharon Who was Gannon's "partner" in the WH press corps? Daily Kos is saying Scott McClellan.
Isn't that nice? Two birds with one slimey lie.
32 posted on 02/10/2005 8:38:02 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies >
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To: Pyro7480 I posted this comment on the yanked thread. First, look at the headline:
Bush press pal quits over gay prostie link
Now, look a the first sentence:
WASHINGTON - A conservative ringer who was given a press pass to the White House and lobbed softball questions at President Bush quit yesterday after left-leaning Internet bloggers discovered possible ties to gay prostitution.
Notice the lack of "possible" or "alleged" in the headline. It's all part of the process of gradually converting spin into liberal versions of the truth. It used to be that such an omission would be a major journalistic faux paux - but now it simply means that the liberal slime machine is cranked up and running.
33 posted on 02/10/2005 8:38:34 AM PST by dirtboy (Funny how liberals are suddenly concerned about someone's sex life. Where were they in 1998?) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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To: muawiyah Why would the leftwingnuts have a problem with "gay prostitution"?""" Because they're hypocrites. But that brings up another question: Why don't freepers like you have a problem with gay prostitution -- at least you don't seem to have a problem in this case, when the guy who's allegedly involved in gay prostitution is a Republican media type? Sorry I'm so consistent - - I blasted Clinton's sleaze, but I''m not going to close eyes to sleaze just because a Republican's allegedly involved.
34 posted on 02/10/2005 8:39:23 AM PST by churchillbuff < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies >
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To: Lijahsbubbe I would love for it to get out that one of the Pentagons reporters has absolutely no background or education concerning foriegn policy. I can't tell you how many times some idiot asks a question that has been asked 36 times already and can be answered by doing a google.
35 posted on 02/10/2005 8:40:01 AM PST by big bad easter bunny (I live so far beyond my means it could be said we live apart.) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies >
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To: big bad easter bunny True. If the media has opened the doors to their own private lives they have only themselves to blame.
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:40 PM
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34. LOL I love when one person called US |
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Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 02:40 PM by FreedomAngel82
hypocrites. HAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks for the laugh. I think they forgot they're the hypocrites where this man claimed to be a conservative Christian and here he is gay and has a male escort service. :eyes: I personally don't give a crap about any of that. Just about how he's a propoganda tool for Stevie boy when he feels the pressure. Ugh. What a joke he is.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:03 PM
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2. Defending their own... |
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I wonder how many freeps partook of Mr. Gannon's services...?
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:09 PM
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6. Probably more than one or two. |
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That client list needs to be out in the open.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:41 PM
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23. "THE Client LIST"....yes....where is it??? AND what about TIPS? |
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bushites require that TIPS be declared as income.....was income taxes paid for those studs??? and what about their Social Security payroll deductions?
time for the IRS to hone in on gannon's 'escort' operations...
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:43 PM
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Did they mention he used to post over there and do their little internet radio show? Big pals with him.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:09 PM
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4. What..like he's a small business owner? |
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Double entendre intended.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:13 PM
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They think we're incensed because of his "gay prostitution" web site. It doesn't seem to occur to them that what is significant about this story is the fact that some damned non-journalist using a fake name and canned questions is allowed into the WH press corps to pretend to be an intelligent and impartial seeker of the truth. No, no, no it's about gay porn and gay sex.:eyes:
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:17 PM
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10. Except that unlike Barney Frank he isn't open about this |
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Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 01:17 PM by DBoon
Hiding this is part of a general pattern of deception running throughout his "journalism career"
Sort of like the spy Hansen hiding his online sexual escapades while pretending to be a patriotic, conservative catholic.
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:41 PM
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gay's and sex. What is up with their obsession? :crazy:
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:15 PM
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this is too much:
You wonder if this guy was really conservative, or a plant to embarass the admin by pretending to be one, then being 'outed' by fellow lefties.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:21 PM
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Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 01:22 PM by skypilot
Yeah, and, apparently, this administration is so fucking incompetent and stupid that they'd let some "planted" hack nobody within throwing distance of the man who calls himself the President (I can't call Bush simply "the President). Fine, let's see who else we can plant. Maybe we can plant Urkel at the next press conference. Or those guys who throw pies at people.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:16 PM
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9. Lot of nasty attacks on "Barney Franks" (sic) lisp and all there... |
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What is their problem with Frank? He has been out as long as I remember, unlike the phony closet case Guckert, who apparently got his "degree" from a Crackerjack box.
And I'm pretty sure frank didn't know that the call boy was doing business out of his home. (And Frank never hypocritically claimed to be a "family values" Christian model of virtue.)
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:19 PM
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11. Oh, here's a good one: |
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Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 01:19 PM by dean_dem
" IF conservatives ever did this to a liberal reporter the press would back him on "principle."
Whaaaaaa??????? Um, Dan Rather anyone?
Oh, and this one's rich:
To: Pyro7480 You wonder if this guy was really conservative, or a plant to embarass the admin by pretending to be one, then being 'outed' by fellow lefties.
Hah! The sooner you Freepers accept your hypocrisy, the better off we'll all be.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:19 PM
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barney frank prostitutes Libbies hit-piece barney frank kos dean dnc kos Libbies barney frank david brock LiberaL whiners
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:23 PM
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14. Note the effect of media spin. |
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To them, this is all about liberal bloggers attacking a RW journalist for being gay. That's the spin the media has put on this and they've bought it, hook, line and sinker. They are captives of their own media and have no idea.
It's hardly occurred to them that this guy participated in the naming of a covert CIA asset, that he seems to have access to a secret memo supposedly leaked by the WH, and that his credentials are far below the normal standards required to be a daily member of the WH press corp. They aren't paying enough attention to see these very connectable dots.
They are sheep who have been told by their masters they are wolves. "Yah, I'm a wolf. Hoooowwllll!" they say, even as they are fleeced.
Fools.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:32 PM
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Good one. I think a lot of them are convinced they're rich, too.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:39 PM
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20. Or that they will BE rich - very soon. |
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And we better cut taxes for the rich because when you get there, you'll be grateful! Ha ha ha, foolish sheep!
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Thu Feb-10-05 10:34 PM
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Yes, sex gets the headlines. But people tried to steer this story in the right direction yesterday, away from the gay angle and towards the propaganda angle. Sensationalism sells and it sells here on DU. Go back and check the threads. At least half of them were about the gay stuff.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:27 PM
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15. Well, this looks like win-win for us! |
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Push the non-journalist with no credentials and a psuedonym being let into the WH press corps and on a first name basis with bush angle hard, and people have to see the complete incompetence and cravenness of the bush administration.
Push the gay prostitution angle, and you get freepers defending a guy who ran gay prostitution rings!!! Now THAT is hilarious!!!
But the freepers will never EVER understand it is NOT about Gannon being gay. I couldn't care less if he's gay. It's about the fact that he is a repuke and the repukes push an ANTI-GAY agenda very strenuously. So when one of theirs is outed as gay, it means they are also a huge hypocrite. And THAT (the hypocrisy) is the problem, not the homosexuality.
I love it. Got the freepers defending a guy running gay porn rings! It's like Christmas all over again!
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:37 PM
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19. I'd like to offer a small edit |
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Gannon isn't accused of just running a gay prostitution operation he is accused of running a gay prostitution operation with gays from the US MILITARY as escorts.
That sound you hear is freeper heads popping like popcorn. They will try to blame that last part on Clinton though-it's a reflex.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:45 PM
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25. Wow, yeah, I must have missed that part. |
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That DOES make it worse.
Yikes.
The freeper heads are spinning so hard they are tearing apart from the centrifugal force. How's THAT for a visual? LOL!
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:08 PM
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30. AND being privy to classified CIA info. |
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My flame of outrage flickers dim.
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:33 PM
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It isn't easy to fit it all into one concise little sentence is it?
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:49 PM
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26. Isn't it strange that a man who taunted the bloggers |
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by "hiding out in the open" is now having all of his writings scrubbed from the internet?
So he's proclaiming his lilly-white innocence while demonizing liberals and zapping evidence into the ether at the same time? Hilarious. I imagine there is probably an Ollie North-style document shredding party going going on in Talon's "offices" right now.
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Thu Feb-10-05 10:39 PM
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It's about the white house and propaganda. Paid journalists, fake news commercials, fake news web sites, and now maybe even a fake WH journalist. If we spin this right, it could be huge. I just read that they said on Aaron Brown that Gannon got his pass 6 days after Talon News web site opened. That fits right in with the Pentagon creating fake news web sites like balkantimes.com.
Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't; but there's enough smoke here that we can fan it into a wildfire.
IF we tie the pieces together and make it about something important. The gay prostitution stuff just makes it so people will keep paying attention, for a while.
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:39 PM
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21. Besides, mlitary prostitution supports the troops! |
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Lets them be a part of the "ownership society".
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:51 PM
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27. You are bad, very very bad |
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I can always count on DU to get my real chuckle du jour!
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Thu Feb-10-05 01:58 PM
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28. Uncle Jeff wants YOU! |
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<speaking in 'porn voice'> Yeahhhhhh man. Come on ...... yeahhhhh!
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:05 PM
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After reading through the freeperville funnies, I can contribute a little. Seems that the worst they can say is something about "our guy" being a "bit of a schmuck."
There is a lot of irrelevant thrashing around going on, but nary a concern about the thought of an undercover, obviously under qualified subversive being allowed to be, with blessings, within pistol shot of the 'president.'
The disconnection between their vaunted "values" and their choice of associates doesn't seem terribly important. Shows the depth of hypocritical depravity. (gag, choke)
The assumption that we should, somehow, give a shit about anyone's sexual proclivities is laughable.
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:16 PM
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31. Freepers are such hypocrites - such shameless |
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pathetic pieces of human trash...
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:20 PM
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32. This is a good one from the freeps |
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Newt Gingrich Bob Livingston John Fund McManus Bill O'Reilly Bill Bennett Rush Limbaugh Maggie Gallagher Armstrong Williams Jeff Gannon
What do these people have in common? Answer: All targets, of the Liberal MSM?..
:freak:
Cannot fathom that they did something WRONG. They are also trashing Dean now and of course Bill and Monica for what THEY brought into the WH.
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:51 PM
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36. Still on about Bill and Monica? |
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I guess that's all the worst thing they can do. :shrug: :eyes:
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:52 PM
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37. Best post on the thread |
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To: Pyro7480 Gannon was also given a classified CIA memo that named agent Valerie Plame
What is the source of this "information"?
3 posted on 02/10/2005 8:18:09 AM PST by frogjerk < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
ANSWER TO STUPID FREEPER'S QUESTION: James D. Guckert (a.k.a. "Jeff Gannon") is the source of that informaiton. Documented in his interview of Joe Wilson. Further documented in his braggin posts on freerepublic.com.
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Stupid Freepers!
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Thu Feb-10-05 02:53 PM
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They really have the blinders on today.
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They just assault Barney Frank, Clinton, Artois, no real consideration of the fact, or why the Left should be upset -- 'they like gays.' No, idiots, it's that he got in to daily WH briefings with a cracker jack journalism degree, no readers, threw out questions to derail any productive line of interview, all under a fake name. The fact that he's gay is only significant because he wrote AGAINST gay marriage.
And now he played a hand in Valerie Plame and setting up CBS and peddled BS through the Daschle campaign? He's a careless link to A LOT OF SHADY CRAP!!
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Thu Feb-10-05 10:09 PM
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41. Is common ground with freepers possible? |
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"It won't be that hard to expose the private lives of the media, they have opened Pandora's box by doing this. Great point. Now reporters' private lives are fair game?"
Let's focus on Blitzer.
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Thu Feb-10-05 10:31 PM
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"Gannon got a daily press pass and was often able to ask questions in the press briefings because the regular press corps didn't have anything to ask"
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