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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:43 PM
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okay, techies, how likely is it that Gannon's porn excuse is true?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 04:43 PM by jdj
"The question prompted scrutiny, particularly from liberal bloggers. Guckert was linked with online domain addresses suggestive of gay pornography. Guckert, a former resident of Wilmington, Del., told The (Wilmington) News Journal newspaper that he had registered the domain names for a client while he was working to set up a Web-hosting business."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050210/ap_on_re_us/reporter_quits

Even if it were, it sure doesn't seem like a family values thing to do..whadya think?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:46 PM
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1. No chance it's true, imho.
Let the other guy step forward if the sites were established for him.

There is no reason Gannon can't say who the guy is either. It's not like it's attorney/client privilege, or medical records.

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:49 PM
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6. maybe it's pimp/ho privilege...or top/bottom...or something n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:04 PM
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24. Why on earth would he register someone else's site in his own name?
It just doesn't make any sense at all. Sure, if the other guy was a tech dummy, Guckert could have registered the site for him, but why would he not use the owner's name? Why would he use his own name?

Does not compute.

Those sites were all Guckert's sites, and no lame excuses will let him off the hook.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:46 PM
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2. If he had registered them for a client
then their name would have been in the files and not his. They are his sites. He won't be able to explain away the photo as easily.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:30 PM
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33. *snicker*
MAAAYYYYYBBBE, but it'd have to be a damn trusting client. Let's check the plausable-o-meter, annnnnd it's registering a "2", just 1 above Bush's explaining his National Guard Record.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:46 PM
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3. if that was true
why would he pose in his underwear?
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:46 PM
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4. Very damn unlikely considering the undie shot of him on it.
eom
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:47 PM
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5. It's perfectly possible that he bought up some domain names
for use later. People do that all the time. BUT, the point is, you wouldn't spend the money to buy those domain names unless you figured you were going to do something with them. So either he, or his 'client,' were planning to do something for which you would need URLs that clearly advertise a gay military escort service.

To me, the gay porn thing is really not that important, although I admit it is hilarious--especially that picture of Gannon in his tighty whiteys. The real issue is how this guy got into the WH press pool--and WHY HE GOT CALLED ON. It drives me crazy that people don't understand how important that piece of it is. I'm sure there are lots of people in the pool who never get to ask questions. Why was Gannon getting air time?

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:52 PM
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8. but, if he got into the white house, and got the Plame memo
what that says to me, basically, is that they are all pretty much fucking each other.

Instead of Quid Pro Quo for 41, it's Quid Pro Blow in 43's administration.

I wish a "blogger" could get press credentials and ask Bush or even McClellan that..."excuse me Mr. President, there have been rumors of Quid Pro Blow in your administration, how to you respond?"
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:58 PM
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LOL, quid pro blow.
Very good!

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:41 PM
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35. If He Was "Reselling"...
wouldn't he be listed only as the administrator and the site's real owner as the proper owner? Well, that would be if things were on the up and up.

Yes, I know he could either have been sitting on those names and hoping someone would stumble on it and he could sell the name for several thousands of easy dollars. Or, he could be a "front" for someone else who remains annonymous...kinda like how Talon News operates. LOL.

Either way, I suspect we'll find out more than we care to about this loser in the days ahead.

While his past is amusing, the focus has to remain, as you state, on how he got his "credentials", who is behind his questions, money and influence. Let's shine the light and watch the rats go racing for the holes.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:50 PM
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7. well, what about THIS photo? come on now....it's soOOOO obvious

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:53 PM
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10. Ahahahahahaha!
:wipes Diet Coke off keyboard:

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:54 PM
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12. Ha Ha, That is hilarious.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:58 PM
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17. LMAO! That should be on the front page.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:01 PM
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21. ROFLMAO!
Perfect!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:29 PM
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32. LMAO!
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:52 PM
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9. Generally, companies want their domains to be in their own name.
Specificly because they want ownership of the domain. And if he really did "register them for a client" he ought to be able to site the client, and more specificly show what he was paid (or re-embursed) to do so.
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Lucille Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:54 PM
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11. I like the fact that he's lying about his "client"
His big whine is that mean lefties are looking into his personal life. But if this represents work for a client, it's professional, not personal. Also, if he was doing work for gay clients or clients promoting a "gay lifesyle" he surely needed to disclose this fact whenever he reported on policy issues related to homosexuality. Wonder why this doesn't trouble "real" journalists like Howie?
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:55 PM
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14. well, us queers call ourselves "family" but we didn't know they
were talking about us when they said "family values." Makes me feel all warm and happy.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:55 PM
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13. It seems to me that anyone with half an iota of sense,
WRT the internet, would make a point of either 1) having hidden domain name directory listing or 2) making sure that the website was NOT listed in his own name.

Case in point: I built a website for a political candidate, who wasn't very techy, but I made darn sure that he was the one who filled out the domain name registration, even though I had to talk him through it. I certainly don't want MY scurvy internet-posting self associated with a judicial campaign in any official looking way.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:57 PM
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16. your scurvy internet posting self, LOL
you'd think Rove would be able to figure this out, or at least pay someone to figure it out. oopsie.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:56 PM
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15. I own several names
Several I don't even use, but they're similar to the ones I do use, and it keeps others from buying them and capitalizing on mis-typed URL's, or from making spook sites.

That said, I've also registered names for clients. The CLIENT'S name is listed as the owner of the site. Me, the designer, registeree, gets listed as the technical contact or an admin contact, but never as the owner of the domain.

One step further...he said he only registered them for clients. Well...yeah...I don't have any gay porn clients. I find it odd that he has three. Is this all a coincidence? Is he a gay porn specialist, or did his first gay porn site recommend him highly to the others?

He cannot escape this...he is posing in his underwear on a gay porn site that he registered. Anyone who thinks this is a mistake or a coincidence is probably also stupid enough to believe stuff George Bush says.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:00 PM
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20. Good point
if he registered them for a client, why does he know someone who specializes in this kind of web site?
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:58 PM
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18. pity we couldn't get the url's and an idea of the netblock
he was allocated an IP from. Even better, it'd be real fun if he was on a static IP...there are ways of finding which IP went where and, sometimes, what they were running search strings on.

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:03 PM
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23. here are some of the sites
Hotmilitarystud.com
Militaryescorts.com
Militaryescortsm4m.com

those are from the truthout article in the Demopedia on Gannon.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:25 PM
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29. thnx indeed...if anything turns up it'll be posted here
first thing is to see who has been asking for these sites, whether they are cited on any forums and so on. Might not throw up anything useful but I'll have a shifty with some people I hang with.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:28 PM
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31. when I went to them I got redirected to something called
"Divide Zero Control Panel Version 1.0."

and the secure page thing came up, which I thought was weird, it tells you to login, this was for all three sites, it was

https://secure.divide0.net/my/

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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:59 PM
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36. looks like a secure https site using port 443
I got some info off the first url though which is a useful start. Might take me a while and the use of https suggests they are secure...https encrypts data flow between client and server...but who knows what we might find?

I'll try to fish around over the weekend.

regards
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:27 PM
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37. I didn't know what to think of it, not a techie
wonder if Gannon has some more pantie shots out there, or worse...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:58 PM
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19. Why would "clients" even NEED him to do that? Anybody with a puter can
buy a domain name in 2 minutes and not have to pay a middleman....??
I mean it's not like it's hard to find Network Solutions or other vendors, there are zillions of popups practically BEGGING users to buy and some are really cheap nowadays....
:eyes:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:02 PM
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22. You're giving Joe Schmoe WAY too much credit
I have clients who need help figuring out how to check e-mail. Don't assume that all this is so easy to people who aren't into it. Many/most wouldn't have a clue where/how to begin registering a domain name, never mind actually setting up a site and uploading it.
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:05 PM
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25. "Hey, man, those aren't my sites!
I was just holding them for friend."

Has anyone checked whether those sites were for real?
I don't dare go there from work.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:06 PM
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26. ne meither.
I listed them in my post above, I might try on my mac just for the hell of it. Think I will.
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ignu Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:16 PM
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28. A Client for WHAT EXACTLY?
What talents does he claim to have?

He has a webhost that has php and mysql and he's too stupid to install a piece blog software.

http://www.conservativeguy.com/rising.htm
http://www.conservativeguy.com/gay.htm
http://www.conservativeguy.com/BLACK.htm

jeffgannon.com is all html as well.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:07 PM
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27. I swear officer....
...I'm just holding this (dope/beer) for a friend. Honest!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:27 PM
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30. in my underwear... n/t
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:33 PM
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34. LOL!
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