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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:49 PM
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Scott said that Bush "doesn't know who he is" re: Gannon. Maybe not true!
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 06:50 PM by Bleachers7
Scotty said that Bush "doesnt know who he is." That may not be true. On August 25, 2001 Bush was at his Crawford "Ranch." He said:

"Plus, you know, one of the things we miss in Washington is our friends. And they're here. We've got the Weisses here, the Gannons are here, Pam Nelson is here. And we find it really relaxing to sit down on the porch with our buddies and just shoot the breeze. And, you know, it's amazing. You don't have to defend any policy you make. I mean, your friends are your friends. These people were friends of mine before I became President, they'll be friends of mine after I'm the President. And people just take you for what you are."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010825-2.html

Now, which Gannons is he talking about specifically?


Credit to librechik: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3083650&mesg_id=3083650&page=
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:52 PM
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1. Just like...
he doesn't know Ken "Kenny boy" Lay--uh huh...right...sure...whatever messy woman fly away!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:01 PM
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6. or Chalabi
although he was sitting next to Laura at the SOTU
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:53 PM
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2. Plus the chimp knew enough to
call on him, didn't he?

Anyway..bush never knows anything or is responsible for anything..they keep him in the dark like a mushroom growing shit.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:56 PM
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3. Someone needs to ask the question.
Which Gannons were at Crawford in 2000?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:09 PM
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8. the media is NOT calling them on the bullshit
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:58 PM
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4. Good job...Finally found that pic last night! You even found the quote!
Yippee...maybe KO could use this little morsel of info! Thanks librechik for getting back to me! "Gannon" was on Blitzer...what a puffpiece! Gannon was boo hooing all the way...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:00 PM
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5. Damn you peeps are good
Great find.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:06 PM
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7. didn't he nickname Jeff "M4M man"
maybe that's too long for Bush to
remember...find out what the Jeffer
was nicknamed. Hey, howabout interviewing
one of those "journalists".
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:11 PM
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9. I think someone posted that this Gannon is a football player
Was posted earlier today
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:13 PM
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10. did he play in the same division as O'Reilly?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 07:13 PM by realFedUp
A punter?

ok, that cracked me up....
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:18 PM
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14. LMAO!!!
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:14 PM
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11. i read that as well
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 07:24 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
but i dont remember it being sourced.

is one thread that asks the same question.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3086812

the football player thing has not been sourced. so this needs to be looked into. It's certainly possible that its a football player, but why assume with no sourcing?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:16 PM
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12. He's friends with the Raiders quarterback?
OK
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:19 PM
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15. The Raiders are my team...always HATED Gannon, though!
NOW I KNOW WHY! LOSER!!!!
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:20 PM
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18. That was posted, Stephanie
But I believe it is in error since August 25 is heavy into the NFL preaseason and the team that Rich Gannon plays for had a game two days later.

If any of you sports nuts can find the stats from the August 27 Dallas-Oakland game, it might be helpful. I couldn't find the stats.

Also, the photo accompanying the transcript describes it as an event for the press.

Perhaps there is another Gannon family?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:31 PM
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20. ask and ye shall receive...

Dallas at Oakland Game Recap Click here to find out more!

Game Stats · Team Stats · Full Play-by-Play · Drive Charts · Recap · Gamebook · Photos

Romo rallies Cowboys past Raiders


NFL.com wire reports

OAKLAND, Calif. (Aug. 21, 2004) -- Rich Gannon is already getting sick of the questions about downfield throws.

But after Kerry Collins' one completion covered almost as many yards as Rich Gannon's seven, the questions about which quarterback is better suited in the Oakland Raiders' new offense are bound to keep coming.

Collins' 89-yard scoring strike to Doug Gabriel in the third quarter was the biggest play of the game before the Dallas Cowboys rallied to beat Oakland 21-20 on Tony Romo's 1-yard keeper with six seconds left.

Gannon did have one good deep ball, a 41-yard pass to Jerry Porter, but five of his completions went for under 10 yards.

"This is football," Gannon said. "We're going to take shots down the field. Go back and watch film. I've been in this league 17 years. I can throw the ball down field as well as anyone. These are ridiculous questions."

After Dallas' first-team offense was kept out of the end zone for the second straight week, the Cowboys' backup quarterbacks -- Drew Henson and Romo -- sparked touchdown drives in the second half.

Romo came in with 4:43 left and the Cowboys (1-1) trailing 20-15. He led them on a 59-yard game-winning drive with the biggest play coming on a 13-yard pass to rookie Sean Ryan on fourth-and-9 from the 14. Romo ran it in on the next play.

"We got much better balance in our attack," Dallas coach Bill Parcells said. "The passing game was much better tonight. We got all three quarterbacks in the game and all three engineered a long drive, so that's good news."
Eddie George rushed for 28 yards on six carries for the Cowboys.
Eddie George rushed for 28 yards on six carries for the Cowboys.
The big moment to that point was Collins' long pass. After years of running the West Coast offense under Jon Gruden and Bill Callahan, the Raiders hired coach Norv Turner, who prefers a more vertical passing game. While Gannon's strength is his pinpoint accuracy on short passes, Collins is better at getting the ball downfield.

He showed off that arm strength on the second drive of the third quarter for Oakland (1-1). He took the snap at the 11 and lofted a ball down the sideline. Gabriel beat Jemeel Powell on the play, pulled the ball in around midfield and ran in for the score.

Collins led the New York Giants to the Super Bowl after the 2000 season but was let go after the team made Eli Manning the No. 1 pick in the 2004 NFL Draft. The Raiders signed him, and a quarterback controversy started immediately, despite attempts by Turner and Collins to insist that Gannon is the starter.

Gannon was 7-for-15 for 92 yards, while Collins finished 1-for-5 against the Cowboys.

"The other part of my night was average at best," Collins said. "We didn't really get the offense going when I was in there."

Gannon's pass to Porter set up a 6-yard touchdown run by Justin Fargas. Gannon also hit Jerry Rice on a 23-yard sideline route on an opening 18-play, 75-yard drive that ended with a 23-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski.

But Gannon and third-stringer Marques Tuiasosopo also threw long passes wide, turning two potential big plays into incompletions out of bounds.

"Rich has thrown the ball upfield and done a nice job," Turner said. "He didn't get many chances to go upfield last week. I was disappointed in a couple of throws when we weren't able to keep the ball in bounds."

After being shut out by Houston in the preseason opener last week, Dallas got inside the 20 three times in the first half but settled for field goals.

Vinny Testaverde went 13-for-17 for 124 yards as the Raiders' rebuilt defensive line struggled to apply pressure on the 40-year-old quarterback.

Testaverde completed four passes in the half to Keyshawn Johnson, his favorite target when the two played for the New York Jets. Johnson had one catch in the opener.

"We improved what we did a week ago but we still need to improve and get the ball into the end zone and not just kick field goals," Testaverde said.

Henson, the former baseball prospect, led Dallas on its first touchdown drive of the preseason, a 3-yard run by rookie Julius Jones in the third quarter.

Jones finished with 14 carries for 56 yards and Henson went 7-for-9 for 53 yards.

GAME NOTES:

* The Raiders played without No. 2 overall pick Robert Gallery, who injured his right elbow in practice this week.
* Raiders TE Teyo Johnson, who expressed frustration about his reduced role earlier this week, didn't play until the second half and had one catch for 2 yards.
* After committing 21 penalties last week, the Raiders had 11 this week, including one that negated a fourth-down interception on the winning drive.


1st Downs 23 16
Rushing 8 5
Passing 12 8
Penalty 3 3
3rd-Down Conversions 10-19 5-11
4th-Down Conversions 3-3 1-1
Punts-Average 3-42.0 3-42.7
Return Yards 150 102
Punts-Returns 1-2 1-5
Kickoffs-Returns 5-148 4-97
Int.-Returns 0-0 0-0
Penalties-Yards 8-50 11-79
Fumbles-Lost 1-0 0-0
Time Of Pos. 35:48 24:12
Total Net Yards 336 335
Total Plays 75 50
Average Gain 4.5 6.7
Net Yards Rushing 132 89
Rushes 36 21
Avg. Per Rush 3.7 4.2
Net Yards Passing 204 246
Comp.-Att. 25-36 14-29
Yards Per Pass 5.2 8.5
Sacked-Yards Lost 3-13 0-0
Had Intercepted 0 0
Touchdowns 2 2
Rushing 2 1
Passing 0 1
Other 0 0
Extra Points 0-2 2-2
Other 0-2 0-0
Red Zone Efficiency 2-5-40% 1-3-33%
Goal To Go Efficiency 2-2-100% 0-1-0%
Safeties

Is this what you needed?
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:33 PM
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21. That's for 2004
I need 2001. Thanks, though. :)
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:36 PM
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22. Oh crap- I'm sorry!
I'll see what I can do!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:41 PM
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23. Will this help?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 07:42 PM by fooj

Search Click here to find out more!


Web Results


1. 2001 PRESEASON - Dallas Cowboys vs Oakland RAIDERS - August 4, 2001
Click here for GREEN BAY GAME or return to
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2. Monday Night Football - The Annotated Dennis Miller: Raiders vs. Cowboys
Tuesday, October 2, 2001. The Annotated Dennis Miller: Raiders vs. Cowboys. By Locke Peterseim, Britannica.com. Special to ABC Sports Online. He's the brainiest guy on HBO, at least during nights Larry Merchant isn't on. ... fact that the Raiders would make their preseason cuts on the plane ...

Did you want to know if GUCKERT played on the team?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:16 PM
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13. "doesnt know who he is." is crap
* called out Gannon/Guckert BY NAME at a press conference.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:20 PM
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19. He knows him...he's just full of shit- NO SURPRISE!
It's a tangled web they weave.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:19 PM
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16. Karl Rove sure does ! eom
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:20 PM
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17. when the Monkey called on him in the briefing, did he use his name?
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49jim Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:54 PM
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24. Yes.....eom
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:41 PM
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26. well that answers the question then doesn't it?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:41 PM
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25. kick
:kick:
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