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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:43 PM
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Kristen Breitweisers response to newly released 9/11 Memo
This is taken from an article "Bush team tried to suppress pre-9/11 report into al-Qa'ida"
http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=609895&host=3&dir=70

The latest pages note that of the FAA's 105 daily intelligence summaries between 1 April 2001 and 10 September 2001, 52 of them mentioned Osama bin Laden, al-Qa'ida, or both. The report also concludes that officials did not expand the use of in-flight air marshals or tighten airport screening for weapons. It said FAA officials were more concerned with reducing airline congestion, lessening delays and easing air carriers' financial problems than thwarting a terrorist attack.



Kristin Bretweiser, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Centre, said yesterday the newly released details undermined testimony from Condoleezza Rice, the former national security adviser, who told the commission that information about al-Qa'ida's threats seen by the administration was "historical in nature".

She told The Independent: "There were 52 threats that were mentioned. These were present threats - they were not historical. There were steps that could have been taken. Marshals could have been put on planes that spring. Condoleezza Rice's testimony is undermined."


My question is this, after all we have been hearing about Bush & Rice ignoring, suppressing and outright lying with all this new info coming out, will bush be given another free pass, or will the Democrats go after him on this? Any thoughts on this?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:47 PM
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1. The families of 9-11 victims should be outraged at what this memo
...shows, and I feel that the press has not given the victims families anywhere near the coverage to speak. No pass to BushCo on this one.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:05 PM
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15. All Americans should be...
outraged, hell the entire planet should be!
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:09 PM
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17. And the families of the dead soldiers in Iraq. Afterall, they would not
be in Iraq getting killed had Bushco done their jobs in the very beginning instead of spending so much time and political capital trying to undo everything Clinton had done or started to do.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:29 AM
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32. But they *did* do *their* jobs...
Check out the PNAC. THe job they didn't do is the one they were elected to do. Oh, wait a min, they weren't elected, nevermind.

-Hoot
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:47 PM
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2. Prediction: free pass
:grr:
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:49 PM
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4. I'm with you....
this guy will complete his term unscathed.
History will be his judge
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:48 PM
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3. My thoughts at this moment are driven by gewurztraminer,
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 08:48 PM by Ilsa
but I suspect * will get another free pass. I don't understand why, but I don't think any will chase this down. Maybe they are afraid of losing their political careers. Maybe they are afraid for life and limb.

We know the press is complicit.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:05 PM
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16. Yummy!!
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 09:18 PM by slor
My favorite! Well, my fav when I drank.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:50 PM
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5. What about the watch lists?
Why did the airlines not have the names on watchlists, under these circumstances?
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:53 PM
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6. Free pass.
The threats from Iran & N Korea, yet-to-come donation scandals from the tsunami, the social secutity flap, and sensational new discoveries in the Michael Jackson case will be more than enough fodder for the MSM. 9/11 is ancient history.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:54 PM
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7. The disgusting part is that it's too late to stop him from being reelected
Whatever outrage does come out in the public, in the press, anywhere; the Senate, the House and the Supreme Court, too many of the state legislatures, as well as many of the lower courts, are controlled by the Repukes. Nothing can happen until the Repukes are sent packing during the '06 elections. Let's just see how much of this goes down the memory hole by then. I will wait and see how gullible and stupid most of the public is, and how well paid for the press turns out to be.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:13 PM
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19. The media wouldn't STRESS these failures so most people wouldn't know
still that Bush betrayed this country on the terror issue. Instead the broadcast media has created this myth of George Bush as the only man who understands and faces down terror. LOLOL....he has given Bin Laden everything he has wanted.

Bin Laden wanted US bases out of Saudi Arabia....Bush closed down the bases last year.

Bin Laden wanted to overthrow Saddam's secular despotism and install an Islamic theocracy in Iraq...guess what Georgie did?
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:56 PM
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30. You have it backwards. Bin Laden has given Bush everything he wanted. n/t
,
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:22 AM
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34. True. Professional courtesy between the world's two biggest terrorists.
.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:03 AM
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31. Turns out..bush created the terror.
I wish the media could feel the terror that the 9/11 Victims and their famlies had and have to go through because of bush/whoremedia.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:28 AM
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35. I shudder w/rage every time I think about it. The media BETRAYS our nation
and the 9-11 victims and families every time they cover for this abusive LIAR in the White House.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:56 PM
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8. If the 52 warnings said "Saddam!", things might be different.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:59 PM
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9. this most scathing evidence will more than likely
go under the wire but God bless Kristen anyway.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:01 PM
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10. First big test for Dean, don't you think?
Shouldn't he be on this like, and forgive the analogy, white on rice (or Bush on Rice, as some suspect)?
He could come out slugging with why this paints the Bush Administration in a bad light and what the Democrats would do to ensure shit like this never happens again.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:01 PM
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11. I refuse to give Bush&Co a free pass!
NO FREE PASSES!!!

NO "GET OUT OF JAILL FREE" CARDS!!!

THIS IS OUR COUNTRY!

AMERICA IS 'OF', 'BY' AND 'FOR' THE PEOPLE!!!

<rant over>

*****

peace to you Kristin Bretweiser
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:17 PM
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20. This is so sickening...I am so pissed! We all need to be calling our
elected officials & news media organizations and not just once, but every day for the next 4 years if we have to!

NO FREE PASSES! I demand a further investigation into the TRUTH!!!

:grr:

I lost 5 friends...as far as I'm concerned and their families, Bush Co murdered these people!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:19 PM
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21. Now for a bit of levity, I give you my new Valentine's Day card:
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 09:21 PM by Swamp Rat
:D




edit: Where are my manners??? :hi: Pachamama! :hug:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:23 PM
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26. Bwahahaha! What a great Valentine! Thanks for making this pissed Mama
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 10:23 PM by Pachamama
laugh for a minute! Hope you don't mind, I think I'll send that one on to people!

Hi Swamp Rodent! :hi:

Yeah, I'm really mad....I actually have no doubt in my mind now that Bush Co. let 9/11 happen....whether it was by intent or just plain incompetence, they need to be held responsible.

We all know the media is a joke and the Dems need to have more backbone. So we need to stay on this, no matter what! Can you imagine if this news had been released prior to the election? It would have been impossible for them to claim that under them America is safer....au contraire! We are in danger because of these people!

WAKE UP AMERICA!! Know thy enemy!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:55 PM
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29. Please DO! n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:01 PM
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12. too bad nobody saved a blue dress
After all Linda Tripp admitted the GOP were paying her off. It must have to be a stupid faked up sex scandal to warrant any legal, ethical, or moral outrage. My brain is going to implode.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:02 PM
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13. move along. get over it.
why do you hate freedom so much?

</sarcasm>
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:04 PM
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14. Kristin's remarks discovered in a UK publication. Where's our press?
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:10 PM
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18. Actually, we should be raising hell with the 9/11 Commission for not
releasing this information BEFORE the election.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 02:54 AM
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33. 9/11 commission had no say over it ..it went to wh intelligence..
it was the white house lawyers who stopped it..not the 9/11 commission they publically said many times last summer for the white house to release it!

fly
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:46 AM
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37. That might be an over simplification.
The commission had access to these facts.

These facts should have been given more weight in their conclusion whether we saw the documents or not. It smells like a whitewash to me.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:00 AM
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38. well thats a given 9 of the commissioners has saudi connections
of some sort ..think $$$$...they were not given a mandate of exposing any wrong doing or responsibility though!! their only mandate was recomendations of how to fix problems ..not expose what went wrong..i wish they had as well but that was not in their job discription!

fly
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:46 AM
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41. Good point. Thanks. n/t
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:23 PM
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22. The Bush Regime....
Is clothed in secrecy. Right after Pearl Harbor occured, a Commission was established to look into how it was allowed to happen.

Yet, this current regime in power is clothed in secrecy. They are hiding a lot of things regarding 9/11, which is why I believe in the LIHOP theory.

I find it hard to believe that Americans went and voted for this kind of unaccountable power.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:23 PM
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23. Sounds like they let 911 happen or at least increased the odds
for OBL!
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:23 PM
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24. I certainly hope Ms. Breitweiser isn't impugning Ms. Rice's "integrity".
Condoleeza Rice has got to be the most incompetent member of the Bush Administration- and that's really saying something. She should be in prison. That's cause for promotion in the Bush Administration, apparently.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:30 PM
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25. Condiliar, don't even think about running for president. There will be
no let up on this issue.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:48 PM
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27. 911 Commsion did not have control over this info.
The Bush Junta had to have access 1st and they redacted (blacked out)parts of it. The CIA 911 report supposed to be issued two months before the election which is rumored to place accountabilty for lack of prevention of 911 Attack is still not out.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:52 PM
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28. oh I hope she does!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd love marching with 9/11 families against her...


I'll be moving out of the country for SURE if we can't beat them in 08. I'll let the younger crowd fight with em... I'm getting to old to live my last years without some peace, they do their best to make intellectual compassionate people of the US want to go away, I'm trying to stay and help, but I'm giving 8 years, and that's it, that's a long time, we should be able to win in 08 with the mess bushco has made...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:30 AM
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36. Kristen and I are in total agreement!
As for "will Democrats go after him..." it's my understanding that Democrats don't have a lot of power in Washington right now.

Getting a special prosecutor will be virtually impossible. I'd conclude that they will not likely put up much of a stink unless THE PEOPLE can convince their Republican elected officials to do something.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:10 AM
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39. Free Pass. When you own the press you answer to no one.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:14 AM
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40. This is something I have NEVER understood

Almost everything we knew suggested possible hijackings. Why no air marshalls? It might have cost some $$ but surely not enough as 2 wars. This administration is penny wise and pound foolish on everything.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:26 PM
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42. Condi believed a "traditional hijacking" would only involve one aircraft
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 01:28 PM by oasis
with its passengers held hostage. No need ramping up nationwide airline security for 200-300 lives.Just look what the cost would be. If the passengers should perish, the Bush Admin. could blame Osama and have an excuse to raid his HQ in Afghanistan.

The person in charge of our national security, Condoleeza Rice, never looked beyond that.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:23 AM
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43. ITS NOT AS SIMPLE AS YOU THINK..THEYWANTED 9/11!!
please read this and the whole series...its must reading to understand 9/11 and the * cabal!!

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/021205Schwarz/021205schwarz.html

snip:

Remember from Parts I and II of Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble that the law firm of Mayer Brown, Rowe & Maw represented Turkmenneft in the lawsuit to keep Bridas tied up in court and senior partner Richard Ben Veniste was playing Where's Waldo? on the 9-11 Omission Commission while that matter was at 5th Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court.

Also remember that Jamie Gorelick sits on the board of United Technologies and Schlumberger, both companies that are raking in huge dollars due to Bush War Policy and Bush Energy Policy.

In addition, remember that former Republican Governor James Thompson of Illinois is now with Winston Strawn, a known lobbyist for Bechtel and Parsons Brinkerhoff, and a former executive of that engineering company is heading up reconstruction in Iraq and, darn, suddenly there is now $9 billion of those reconstruction funds missing over there. If you recall, the "reconstruction amount" was $18.6 billion, so close to 50 percent of the funds are missing, folks. The bank has been robbed and DC is in spin cycle.
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