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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:04 AM
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BOB HERBERT: "when a cancer is ignored" | must read!
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So tell me again. What was this war about? In terms of the fight against terror, the war in Iraq has been a big loss. We've energized the enemy. We've wasted the talents of the many men and women who have fought bravely and tenaciously in Iraq. Thousands upon thousands of American men and women have lost arms or legs, or been paralyzed or blinded or horribly burned or killed in this ill-advised war. A wiser administration would have avoided that carnage and marshaled instead a more robust effort against Al Qaeda, which remains a deadly threat to America.

What is also dismaying is the way in which the administration has taken every opportunity since Sept. 11, 2001, to utilize the lofty language of freedom, democracy and the rule of law while secretly pursuing policies that are both unjust and profoundly inhumane. It is the policy of the U.S. to deny due process of law to detainees at the scandalous interrogation camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, where prisoners, many of whom have turned out to be innocent, are routinely treated in a cruel and degrading manner.

The U.S. is also engaged in the reprehensible practice known as extraordinary rendition, in which terror suspects are abducted and sent off to be interrogated by foreign regimes that are known to practice torture. And the C.I.A. is operating ultrasecret prisons or detention centers overseas for so-called high-value detainees. What goes on in those places is anybody's guess.

It may be that most Americans would prefer not to know about these practices, which are nothing less than malignant cells that are already spreading in the nation's soul. Denial is often the first response to the most painful realities. But most Americans also know what happens when a cancer is ignored.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/21/opinion/21herbert.html?

(this piece reminds me of a lyric I wrote for The Question W Revue last summer:

WHY? (A MOTHER'S LAMENT) - Music by Brooks Cowan/Lyrics by Jeff Matson

NO, I DON'T FEEL ANY SAFER
AND I AM NO LESS AFRAID.
I MARCHED TO STOP THIS MADNESS
HAVE WE BEEN BETRAYED?
YOU SAID THE THREAT WAS REAL.
YOU SAID THAT WE HAD CAUSE TO FEAR
BUT WAS THE MOTIVATION CLEAR?
DID MY CHILD DIE FOR A LIE?

THE COFFINS ARRIVE IN DARKNESS
THE WOUNDED KEPT OUT OF SIGHT.
YOU SAID YOU'D HUG EACH MOTHER
BUT I'M STILL WAITING
YOU'LL NEVER KNOWN THIS PAIN
MY CHILD WAS NOT PROTECTED
BY PRIVILEGE LIKE YOURS
CAN YOU EXPLAIN?
I ASK YOU AGAIN

PLEASE, WHAT WAS THIS WAR FOR?
WAS IT ALL A LIE?
WHY DID MY SON DIE?
WAS IT ALL A LIE?
WHAT WILL YOU TELL THE CHILDREN?
TELL THE WIDOWS?
TELL THE MOTHERS?
TELL THE NATION NOW?
THERE WERE NO WEAPONS FOUND.
SO WAS YOUR REASONING SOUND?

DID YOU DECEIVE ME?
WHO SHOULD I BELIEVE?
WAS IT BLOOD FOR OIL?
HAVE YOU SEEN OUR FAMILIES GRIEVE?

THROUGH MY TEARS
I WILL SPEAK OUT
UNTIL I'M HEARD
SO HEAR ME NOW I WILL BE ANSWERED
MY FAM'LY PAID THE HIGHEST PRICE OF ALL.
NOW WE CAN GIVE NO MORE.
AND SIR, HIS NAME WAS PAUL.
PLEASE, WHAT WAS THIS WAR FOR?

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:19 AM
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1. NGISS???
"No Gannon In Subject Syndrome"
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:35 AM
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2. "Cancer of the Soul"
A perfect analogy. We are a very sick country. A real war on terror would have been done with a scalpal instead of a chainsaw. The real terrorists in this world are the ones promoting a fake war on terror.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:42 AM
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3. exactly!
and they terrorize at home too.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:05 PM
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4. Gannon was in Iraq?
Understand what you mean about the latest trend in DUing. So, stick to the topic.

From Herbert's column:

Iraq, Then and Now

By Bob Herbert

EXCERPT...

Porter Goss, the C.I.A. director, told the committee, "Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists." He added, "These jihadists who survive will leave Iraq experienced and focus on acts of urban terrorism."

The war, said Mr. Goss, "has become a cause for extremists." In his view, "It may only be a matter of time before Al Qaeda or another group attempts to use chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear weapons."

Vice Adm. Lowell Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said: "Our policies in the Middle East fuel Islamic resentment. Overwhelming majorities in Morocco, Jordan and Saudi Arabia believe the U.S. has a negative policy toward the Arab world."

CONTINUED...

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/21/opinion/21herbert.html?

Gee. I wonder who on DU said all that...in 2002?

Great article, Jeff. Great lyrics, too.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:15 PM
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5. when I saw your subj line I was going....
:wtf:?????????

a lot of us were saying this would happen. and, frankly, it's exactly what the neocons wanted to happen. (see the Tom Toles cartoon I posted "2005 WH Calendar")

glad you like the lyrics. that song has been entered in this year's MAC (Manhattan Association of Cabaret) competition.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:17 PM
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6. i can't believe that HERBERT is IGNORED
while Pickles' stupid dress thread lives on...

sad commentary on GD...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:06 PM
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7. KICK!
:kick:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:53 PM
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8. kicking the KICK
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:24 PM
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9. Kicking the BFEE in the pants with the Truth kick.


Why Laura dresses like a queen
and looks like the Joker.
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ChairOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:31 PM
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10. sigh. Unfortunately, it isn't DUers who need to read such articles...
.... it's the 50%+ of the voting public that votes republican... The problem is that they just don't care....
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