Ann the Man call's Helen Thomas "that old Arab ....

[trumad]

Here's Ann the Man's full quote:
"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president."

and here's Jame's Wolcott's reply:

Wearing surgical gloves, DCMediagirl extracts this latest choice morsel from Ann Coulter:

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president."

I wonder what would happen if a writer, say me, were to refer in a Vanity Fair column to "that old Jew Norman Podhoretz" or, naughtier still, "that old Jewess Lucianne Goldberg."

Through the magic of exaggeration, I can just imagine the commotion. Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz would blow their respective lids, Michael Medved would wince with feigned pain, rightwing bloggers would demand that liberal bloggers disavow me and delink, I'd be lumped in with Justin Raimondo and Kurt Nimmo as prime examples of the New Antisemites, petitions would file in to Vanity Fair demanding that I be fired, or, for penance, be forced to tour Auschwitz with Prince Harry.

Arabs of course are fair game on talk radio and the trash punditry, of which Ann Coulter is stringbean queen. Presumably Helen Thomas's very ancestry, about which I know nothing, makes her an incipient terrorist threat, though presumably commando call boy Jeff Gannon would have been coiled to pounce into action if the octegenarian made any sudden violent moves. Coulter's typically crass wisecrack is the cartoonish version of the hostile profiling of Arabs and Muslims being conducted all over the neoconservative right, as typified by Michelle Malkin's pioneer work to excuse the Japanese internment in order to justify the preemptive incarceration of Muslims and other suspicious elements.

I'm sure this sort of thing doesn't fluster them in the slightest. Conservatism and sadism have become indivisible.
http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2005/02/lipstick_fascis.php

[Cha]

1. "James Wolcott"

I love you! :toast:

edit~ To say.."Conservatism and sadism have become indivisible."

There are real conservatives out there who hate bush..who is a fascist and that has always equaled sadism.

[tuvor]

2. coulter subsists on her name being in the public consciousness.

She is to political analysis what Hulk Hogan is to professional sports. (Sorry if you've seen me say that before. But it's true!)

What say we all try that advice that Mom gave us, that if you ignore them, they'll go away?

Replying rationally to her irrational comments sure isn't working.

[AZCat]

7. But will Coulter&Co. do what Hogan & Friends finally did...

and own up to the sham?

FoxNews is the professional wrestling of journalism and it's about time it came clean!

[candy]

17. Your Mom was right but Coulter knows that no one will--

pay any attention to that good advice.

Coulter keeps saying outrageous things and keeps getting her name out there.She will continue doing this until we stop paying attention.

There is nothing worse for someone like Coulter than being ignored.

[tblue37]

20. She is a goddess to the right wingnuts.

They won't cease their adulation if we ignore her, so our best bet is to make sure what is left of sane America is not allowed to hear "conservative pundit Ann Coulter" without our offering as corrective such blatant evidence of what she really is.

BTW, ignore them is exactly the avice Kerry followed with the Swift Boat Liars. How did that work out for him?

[tuvor]

26. I don't know about that. The cons are ignoring Guckert

and that seems to be working quite nicely so far.

[tblue37]

44. Only because the MSM are on their side.

The MSM are not on our side. They will continue to push Coulter as a reasonable conservative pundit.

Guckert is not being ignored by our side, though, and those few who are in between who hear about him are horrified by him. But becasue of the complicity of the MSM, most who are not actively looking for anti-Bushco information on the net never even hear about him.

However, everybody hears about Coulter, whether we "promote" her views by mocking them or not. Even if we ignore her, that won't prevent her from having a public forum, available to everyone, whereas their ignoring Guckert does prevent most Americans from hearing about him, or if they do hear, it is only in very mild, uncontroversial terms, with most of the really awful stuff left out. In fact, much of what the MSM media tell about him makes it look as though we are hounding him unreasonably, not as though there is anything really important to the story.

[tuvor]

52. Self-delete. Replied to wrong post.

I appreciate your comments, though.

[Catherine Vincent]

3. Bitch!

[paineinthearse]

4. I'm sure this sort of thing doesn't fluster them in the slightest.

On his website, "this sort of thing" is hyperlinked to...

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1382033,00.html

Guantanamo Briton 'in handcuff torture'

David Rose on the allegation that a British detainee was suspended by his wrists as punishment for reciting the Koran while in US military custody

Sunday January 2, 2005
The Observer

A British detainee at Guantanamo Bay has told his lawyer he was tortured using the 'strappado', a technique common in Latin American dictatorships in which a prisoner is left suspended from a bar with handcuffs until they cut deeply into his wrists.
The reason, the prisoner says, was that he was caught reciting the Koran at a time when talking was banned.

He says he has also been repeatedly shaved against his will. In one such incident, a guard told him: 'This is the part that really gets to you Muslims, isn't it?'

The strappado allegation was one among many made about treatment at both Guantanamo and the US base at Bagram in Afghanistan made to the British lawyer Clive Stafford Smith when he visited his clients Moazzam Begg and Richard Belmar at the Cuban prison six weeks ago, having tried for the previous 14 months to obtain the necessary security clearance.

more.....

[Mike Nelson]

5. Ann Coulter is a sick ticket (nt)

*

[etherealtruth]

6. I rarely HATE...

Ann Coulter elicits a response in me that can only be described as pure loathing.

[adigal]

9. AMEN, brother or sister n/t

[ohkay]

8. STOP PAYING ATTENTION!!!

She KNOWS how much she pisses you off. Stop watching!! Turn off your TV!! Stop repeating her words. If enough people do that She. Will. Go. AWAY!!

[etherealtruth]

13. Touche

[russian33]

10. "commando call boy " Bwahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[phoebe]

11. Is it time to remind Ann that the Bushes have a great fondness for

Arabs - specifically those that pay them off - such as Prince Bandar -so comfortably close to the Bushes that he is now known as Bandar Bush. Need we mention the bin Ladens, Adnan Khoshogi (sp?) and all the other "old" Arab friends that bankroll our white good ol' boy born-again leader?

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[hector459]

14. I thought Helen Thomas was Lebanese...like Danny Thomas?

But what do I know. And I don't really care what ethnicity she is, she is a damn good journalist who has been shut down by the Bush WH.

[parsifal_e]

51. well.... lebanon is an arab country! n/t.

[dweller]

15. Helen Thomas, bless her soul

should kick AnnFascistC's bony ass and ram a copy of the Society of Professional Journalist's Code of Ethics
http://www.spj.org/ethics_code.asp
down her stickish adam's-appled throat at the same time.

i'm not one for violence, but in this case Helen, i gotchyer back.
dp

[Say_What]

16. Ann the Man, DOUCHBAG Extraordinaire

[Up2Late]

21. Waaaaaaaaaay to much Female characteristics in that pic...

...to be "That Whore" :grr:

And the skirt it too long too.

[Say_What]

30. years ago I saw her on Rivera--I thought they were gonna go at on his desk

before the show ended. LOL she is some POS

[Up2Late]

43. She did "The Daily Show" a few years ago

It was the only time I ever saw Jon Stewart start a Guest interview WITHOUT the guest walking in and sitting down at the beginning of the interview.

I think it was because her Mini-dress was so short, that if she had to walk in and sat down on the couch, she would have given the audience a free Beaver/sausage shot. :puke:

Or maybe they had to edit the segment, because she/he is such a RW Lunatic.:crazy:

[xxqqqzme]

48. I remember that.

I thought they did it so she wouldn't B booed 'n hissed on camera. Or maybe she was and it was edited B4 broadcast.

[jonnyblitz]

18. damn she doesn't even TRY to be subtle about her bigotry. nt

[Sparkly]

19. She makes a living as a celebrated bigot. n/t

[Mr_Spock]

22. That stupid angry whore does suck us in to the name-calling game though

she is simply a distraction and ought to be ignored. It's amazing what a tall slim blond can get away with that would get most people shunned. She's really taking advantage of this - what a WHORE!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

23. "that genderless Ann Coulter"

proves that you don't have to have any substance to your remarks to get on tv

[HockeyMom]

24. Miss September 1938

Saw a tshirt for sale on a website with the above caption and a caricature of Coulter dressed in a Nazi hat, jacket, thigh high skirt, and wearing boots exactly like the ones Condi has.

Need I say more?

[DemoTex]

25. Coulter is obviously threatened by Helen Thomas.

And it is Helen Thomas: game, set, and match. By any measure (intellect, talent, class, experience), Helen Thomas has her adversaries beat by a mile. And they know it. And they stoop to what they do best, the ad hominem attack.

Show your class Ann. Show your ass girl (?). BTW: Would you be open to a buccal smear for a Y-body check for sex determination?

[dogonarug]

36. Speaking of tennis...

Last years US open...coulter and skanky Friend have seats on the aisle about 5 rows back from the court...(forget which match)
Eric Heiden(famous speed skater,Friend of Johnny Mac)is in the first row. Micheal Barkann,USA network commentator comes walking down the aisle on camera to do an interview with Heiden, But coulter thinks he's coming to interview her! she's looking back watching him approach, flipping her hair, smiling...DOH! he walks right by not even noticing her.
The entire Heiden interview had coulter framed over the interviewers shoulder looking unimportant/jealous.

[Aristus]

45. HA! Medical humor!

I love it, Mac! :-)

[nostamj]

27. Ann Coulter is the stringbean queen??? (I smell an ABBA parody!)

(to the tune of "Dancing Queen")

Ann Coulter is the
stringbean queen
lean and mean
on your TV screen...

(maybe tomorrow I'll finish this)

[Octafish]

28. Helen Thomas is a journalist. Ann Coulter is a liar.

Big difference. Too bad Corporate McPravda employs the latter. That's why they're called "presstitutes."

Ann Coulter studies Law at Michigan*.



Woof woof wyff fwyff wiff fwaff?"

Unretouched photo.

* Business Law?

I'm sure she passed the bar.

[napi21]

29. I never even knew Helen was of Arab decent! And I don't care!!!

If only we had a lot more Helen Thomas's in the WH Press Corps!

She is a legend in American journalism, and at the WH. AC ddoesn't deserve to even stand behind Helen, and far less criticize her!!!!!!

[IronLionZion]

31. Ann really is a good nazi

what the fuck,

if you haven't seen her spectacularly racist bit on Condi from her website, here: She took it off but it might still be cached on google

Top Ten Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her, errr, Appearance
10. Her favorite literary character? Lando Calrissian from Star Wars
9. That she might express policy disagreements by saying, "Oh no you didn't!," and then dismissively cracking her bubble-gum
8. That the NSC's phones would frequently be jammed as she furiously dialed in to vote for Reuben Studdard on American Idol
7. That she might distractingly "whoop it up" in the War Room, yelling "Shazz-amm, suckah!" after each successful missile strike
6. That she would create a diplomatic embarrassment by calling a foreign dignitary "Sugah" and then offering him a Seagram's-and-grape-soda
5. That Donald Trump really waited far too long to tell her "You're fired"
4. That, far too frequently, National Security Briefings would degenerate into nothing but yo' mama jokes and gang-signs
3. That her duties as National Security Advisor might be compromised by her outside interests: singin', dancin', and stealing chickens from Old Man Codger's farm
2. That when confronted with a ghost or other supernatural spooky, she would bug her eyes out comically while wailing, "Feets, don't's fails me now!!!," which is an express violation of White House security protocols regarding extradimensional intrusions
...and the Number One Judgment Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her, errr, Appearance...
1. That she only got the NSA job over Clarke because she was a... well, come on, you know why

[tblue37]

46. Actually,

in this piece she is claiming that Richard Clarke is the one who thinks such racist thoughts, not her. It is the same as when Howard Dean made that remark about how Republcians never see that many people of color in the same room unless they are the hotel and wait staff. His remark, made to a Black audience, was well-received by them, because they knew he was slamming Republican racist attitudes, not saying all Black people are hotel and wait staff. But the MSM (and RW Black shills) screamed very loudly about how "racist" Howard was being to say that.

But notice that no one is pulling the same thing on Coulter for what she has said. The two remarks are of the same sort, except that Coulter's is bizarrely specific, in a way that implies that she really does think such things, though she is putting them into the mind of Richard Clarke rather than presenting them as her own.

[proud patriot]

32. ann is a waste of protoplasism

:grr:

[Solly Mack]

33. Ann's not fit to wipe Helen's feet

Ann knows it too. Ann only attacks Helen Thomas because Ann knows she will never be half the journalist or half the woman Helen is, and she never will be...

Ann is a generic right wing waste of space. No talent. No originality...just a lot of hot air. Ann does not possess a single solitary redeeming quality.

[shraby]

34. Who pays Ann's bills?

[Solly Mack]

38. the right wing media network does

they get her the jobs(columns)...they buy her books in bulk...Scaife promoted her early on (Arkansas Project)... then Ann joined the right wing media network full force

ever read "The Republican Noise Machine"? It'll tell you exactly who pays her bills and how...

[Cleita]

39. Well, considering she has ties to Regnery Publishing,

which has ties to the Swiftboat Liars and Jeff Gannon, I guess if you pressured the GAO enough you might find our tax dollars at work again. I'm only speculating now, but really who does buy her diatribes? I mean the people who hang on her every word can't read can they? And everyone else wouldn't waste their money.

[me b zola]

35. Commando call-boy!

..and "Conservatism and sadism have become indivisible."

Great nuggets of truth that scream to become protest signs!

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. OK. And is our MSM SCREAMING about this? Are they

defending one of their own??? Hell no, they aren't. This shines that "complicit, shilling light" on them once again. :grr:

[JI7]

40. she is trying to find some right wing man to marry her

these are all attempts to try to attract some right wing asshole so she could get married.

but it seems even right wing assholes aren't into her.

[Greybnk48]

41. A.C. looks like a man, dresses like a whore and

in my experience is either lying or incoherant every time I have been forced to listen to her. A comment regarding one of our premier journalists by someone this low is not worth our time. AC is a joke.

Who does she work for? Why don't we do a complaint campaign like the neocon's do to get these people fired? Dennis Miller is another no talent bum cut from the same cloth.

[xxqqqzme]

50. indignantly DEMAND an apology

what they do best - what a bunch of asswipe hypocrits.

[Toucano]

42. Illustrative of that wonderful Judeo-Christian tradition

of honoring elders. Neo-cons like to identify things as "old" apparently. "Old Europe", "Old Media", "Old Arab". Can "old democracy" be far behind.

Nice, Coulter. You're a total Ashcroft.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

47. I've seen Lucianne wearing a large crucifix on C-Span once.

I'm don't think she's Jewish. She may just be married to a Jewish man.

[Rose Siding]

49. WHY does that merchant of hate have a job?

Talk about VALUES! Coulter is exactly what's wrong with society's VALUES. Lies and hate and prejudice and perversion of ALL intelligent analysis.

I have to find out where she makes her money. Who syndicates her? Who publishes her? I'll rest better not being any part of it.

[tuvor]

53. Yahoo's version of this column censors the "old Arab" part.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3183423&mesg_id=3183423

[LoZoccolo]

54. I have to hand it to Ann...

...for knowing that she's never really going to get anyone but the type of people who already read her to listen to her, and playing to them pretty much exclusively. I'm not sure that many other columnists have such a keen sense of just where they fit in the journalistic world. Probably because the other columnists seek to expand their readership, whereas Ann Coulter's made so many mistakes she can't do that, so she's just catering to her people.