Which states would you consider southern states?

[coloradodem2005]

Does West Virginia count as one?

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[paineinthearse]

2. everything south of Massachusetts nt

[rzemanfl]

3. The States that were in the Confederacy, period. n/t

[kentuck]

4. The "west" is more "southern" than the South....

Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, parts of Kansas and Indiana, and Oklahoma are the South.

[coloradodem2005]

6. Oh great.

That's just great. I live in a more southern state than Miss. or Alabama? Thanks for the insult. Throw in fuck the west on with fuck the south. I gotta move.

[donheld]

11. NOT

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[eallen]

5. West Virginia was created by its dissent from Virginia's secession

Historically, that makes it northern.

[scottty]

7. But living next to it,

I would have to say that it feels more southern.

[trumad]

8. Shit... I grew up in Miami...

That's more southern than any of ya...

[paineinthearse]

9. Help me understand Florida

I understand before 1864, salvery in Florida was illegal. But did it adopt slavery when it seceeded? Or did it not seceede?

[Stop_the_War]

10. I have no idea.

[Jim Lane]

13. History of slavery in Florida

Florida came to slavery later than other Southern states but certainly long before 1864.

In the early nineteenth century, Florida was still owned by Spain. The area was sought as a refuge by escaped slaves from nearby U.S. states. Under the Adams-Onis Treaty, effective in 1821, the U.S. acquired Florida, in exchange for $5 million and renunciation of all U.S. claims to Texas. (If only that deal had stuck!) Thus, slavery was practiced in Florida from 1821 to 1865.

The University Press of Florida offers a book, Slavery in Florida: Territorial Days to Emancipation, about which it says: "This important illustrated social history of slavery tells what life was like for bond servants in Florida from 1821 to 1865, offering new insights from the perspective of both slave and master." <http://www.upf.com/book.asp?id=RIVERF00>

[misanthrope]

12. Let's see...

...Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky and Virginia. But even within that group are sub groups.

Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and Georgia would comprise the Deep South. Now, granted, there are pockets of cultural deviation around Atlanta and at the southern portion of the Sunshine State. And one could say New Orleans is almost a cultural nation unto itself. But, overall this is the Spanish moss and cotton heart of the American South.

Tennessee's culture is a bit different from those below it in that the plantation legacy isn't as prominent and the isolation of hilly topography plays more of a role, but it could still be considered close enough to the Deep South to count as such.

Arkansas is a bit of an enigma, retaining its Southern panache but with a slight lean toward the sensibilities created by western expansion.

Kentucky is a Southern state but with a touch of Midwest vibe as well.

Virginia and the Carolinas are also strongly Southern, but they retain a slightly different atmosphere of Southern-ism, owed perhaps to the stronger British influence in their history.

Texas is its own region.

[JNelson6563]

14. The one's who think of the civil war

as "the war of northern aggression".

Julie

[B Calm]

15. All the states where the dumb poor white men fought for the rich man

to have the right to own slaves during the Civil War..