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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:55 AM
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UK poll finds Charles not so popular
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/redir.php?jid=c26fc27ea1b4403a&cat=c08dd24cec417021

UK poll finds Charles not so popular
From correspondents in London
February 26, 2005
THE British monarchy has been seriously damaged by the litany of errors overshadowing the wedding of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles, a new poll showed today.

Less than a third of those polled now believe the prince should become king, and a further quarter even said the monarchy should end when the Queen retires or dies, according to the poll published by The Daily Telegraph.

More than a third of those who took part said the prince's marriage would weaken the monarchy, while only five per cent believed it could strengthen it, according to the YouGov poll published on The Daily Telegraph's website.

The poll findings showed a sharp decline in the prince's popularity since his marriage to his long-term mistress was announced on February 10. More people think that Prince William should become the next king.

more...

Looks like Charles has put the Monarhy in the spotlight!!!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:57 AM
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1. i wish he could just live his life and love who he chooses.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:10 AM
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2. by taking the responsibility of princedom, he is putting himself
in the public eye. i feel bad for him, but not that bad.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:16 AM
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4. He was born into the "princedom".
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:37 AM
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17. He has birth and marriage certificate plus bank accounts in the
name of Michael Gelli. DNA tests taken in 1976 in the UK showed a direct genetic link to Raine Spencer, pricess Di's ex-stepmother.

Everything spun about this Pretender to the Throne is a lie.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:39 PM
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21. i've never heard that.
but that doesn't mean it's not true. i wouldn't be surprised.
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omulcol Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:10 PM
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26. Do you have a link to such
an outrageous claim ?
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:13 PM
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30. please, there's no reason to call it outrageous.
emad presented an opinion/fact/statement. now it's emad's responsibility to prove it.
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omulcol Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:18 PM
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34. Ooopsss ... profound apology
Ashmanonar ....... I must have clicked your reply button in error --

:shrug:


:hi:

Oye Emad ............. where's the proof ?
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:46 AM
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36. :D
'salright. no harm done.

incidentally, i'd like to see this proof too. could be VERY VERY interesting.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:36 PM
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19. He can abdicate.
He doesn't have to be Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, or what have you.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:38 PM
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20. that's my point.
he doesn't HAVE to be prince. he can name an heir and retire, so to speak.
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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:24 AM
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9. indeed he can
but not as the heir to the throne.

if he wants to carry on like he has been doing, he should simply renounce any claim he may have to the throne in favor of his son william. then he can continue to make a fool of himself and nobody will care.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:32 AM
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16. Why pass the curse on to his son? What kind of father is that? They should
just get rid of monarchy. Do themselves and the entire country a favor.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:14 PM
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31. i think (and please correct me if i'm wrong)
the british love their monarchy. they know it doesn't have THAT much power, but they love it for it's symbolic leadership. the queen certainly knows how to lead, unlike some presidents.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:41 PM
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33. Monarchy makes no sense. Even if they loved the monarchy,
it wouldn't take much logic to convince them to be more sensible.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:45 AM
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35. pot, meet kettle.
i'd like to refer you to the american electoral system.

:evilgrin:
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:54 PM
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28. marrying a divorcee is making a fool of yourself?
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Mr Creosote Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:15 AM
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11. How about this?
We'll let him do that, so long as he agrees to pay his inheritance tax when his parents die.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:05 AM
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12. He could live his life and love who he chooses: he DOES have free choice
The difference is only that he has more to lose if he does. But, it is hard for me to feel sorry for him--that he has more to lose only underscores how much opportunity has been given to him.




So few have tremendous opportunities solely as their birthright. Yet we feel sorry for the Royals?
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:56 PM
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29. Yet how many lives has that birthright destroyed? Few can handle it.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:13 AM
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3. I'm sorry the English people are right on and I don't want
him to be King!!!

Its the Diana Ghost haunting him!!!
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omulcol Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:13 PM
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27. And seven years later ...
it still won't go away !

(International-ITV News) Feb. 16, 2005 - It's been more than seven years since the tragic death of Princess Diana, and now British police are back at the scene to use new technology to try and figure out the cause of the deadly crash.

The tunnel where Diana died was sealed off overnight as photographers from the Metropolitan Police took photographs from every conceivable angle in the hopes of creating a three-dimensional image of the scene using computer software that's been developed since 1997.

It's part of the British inquiry into the princess' death led by the recently retired head of the Met John Stevens. He was appointed by the Royal Coroner.

Stevens' investigation has come so long after her death because it couldn't begin until the French investigation ended last year. But, the delays have simply fueled the conspiracy theories about what happened that night.

The French concluded Diana's death was just a tragic accident.

Now speculation is whether Sir John's report will conclude the princess was murdered or if aspects of her death have been covered up. Royal biographer Robert Lacey says, "The French have already produced a mountain of documents about this, and it hasn't convinced British public opinion. Now the British authorities have to look at every sinister explanation of how and why Diana died and try to prove that they are wrong. Whether they come up with facts is another question."

For many people it has been impossible to accept that something as mundane as a car crash could've ended a life that was a mixture of royal fairy tale and glamorous celebrity, and the rumors and wilder conspiracy theories may never be dispelled.

posted 3:00pm by Chris Rees
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:00 AM
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5. Sorry but this is not LBN......EOM
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:45 AM
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6. Sad but true
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 04:45 AM by Thankfully_in_Britai
Charles has been unpopular for some time, and a large part of this is down to his preference for Camilla over Diana I'm afraid to say.

On the other hand Prince William is quite popular on the whole.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:54 AM
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7. er?
"THE British monarchy has been seriously damaged"

what does that even MEAN?

it doesn't mean ANYTHING.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:08 AM
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8. my thoughts exactly
who the hell gives a flying #%(* about "the monarchy"?
their shit stinks too.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:38 AM
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10. The monarchy brings tourists and their money to Britain
but, do you really need that many royals as a tourist attraction?

Like many here, I love Diana, and I hate Camilla.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:22 AM
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13. If the British get rid of the monarchy, I'm sure Disney would be
more than happy to rent them Snow White to ride around London in a carriage for the tourists.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:29 AM
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14. Oh, no! he might not get elected!
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 10:30 AM by robbedvoter
:eyes:
All poll news are stupid, but this one takes the cake.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:30 AM
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15. Don't forget that Employment Tribunal case where he agonized over people
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 10:31 AM by AP
trying to rise above their station in life.

And how about his kid dressing like a Nazi.
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omulcol Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:52 PM
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25. FOR A FANCY DRESS PARTY !
Fri 14 Jan 2005
printer friendly4:15pm (UK)
William: I Share Blame for Harry's Nazi Gaffe

By Laura Elston, PA Deputy Court Correspondent
Prince William was understood tonight to feel he shares some of the blame for HarryÕs decision to dress up as a Nazi soldier.
Protective of his younger brother, William, 22, having been with him when he collected the controversial costume, is said to feel partly responsible for his sibling.

Steps are expected to be taken privately in the future to ensure both royals understand why the swastika-emblazoned fancy-dress uniform caused such an outcry, royal sources said.
edited

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4002136

I'm no Loyalist but let's keep things in perspective shall we !
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 01:06 PM
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18. Charles should have left things as they were. What a stupid decision
a stupid selfish decision that reopens old wounds and is completely irrelevent and I beleive merely a cover for the real reason Diana left him.

The real reason has nothing to do with Bowles and everything to do with Charles' real hipocracy and lies.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:53 PM
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22. Charles is calculating Jerk!!! Prince Edward abdicated for Love
it was the Greatest Love story of the century... He didn't become King because of it thats how Elizabeth got her throne... Edward couldn't mary an divorcee and he had no children ... Camilla is a divorcee... I believe Charles married Diana strictly to breed him sons and she was suppose to be the docile nobody in the background but Diana wasn't docile but more popular than the queen or him and she was rebellious...

Charles can't be thinking he is going to waltz in like nothing happened... If England crowns him its an absolute travesty of the Monarchy!!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:01 PM
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23. The "monarchy" is just ceremonial anyway
and as long as the UK taxpayers do not mind paying to keep them as eccentric "pets", they will continue to do so.

Had Charles been "allowed" to do what he wanted, he and Camilla would have married when they were 20, they would have probably had 4 or 5 kids, and we would have never even heard about Diana,who would probably be teaching school and happily married herself.

The whole emphasis on "proper" and "pedigreed" marriages bears more of a resemblance to the Kennel Club, than real life:(
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Payback Time Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:33 PM
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24. Maybe Charles doesn't want to be king...
and this is why he is now marrying Camilla. Charles is getting up there in age and might consider the monarchy an unnecessary burden. He could be planning to abdicate in favor of William. BTW, which one dress up as a Nazi, William or Harry? I think it was the latter. Although it sounds insensitive, it's difficult to expect someone of that age to fully understand. He probably was trying to be cool.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 10:16 AM
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37. Hi Payback Time!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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MIScott87 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:35 PM
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32. Charles unpopular? What's next, is the Pope Catholic?
eom
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:06 AM
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38. Bennifer meet Charmilla. He is one reality challenged individual.
He is the Walmart of the British aristocracy, the American Idol of talent, the Bevis and Butthead of his own destiny, the babbling British fop dilletante of architecture, a reality oblivious royal that just bites the hands that feed him.

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