Was Vetwife's kamikaze mission evidence

[Must_B_Free]

that the freepers are nearing the end?

Looks like they are already reduced to "suicide bomber" mode to try to create some kind of rift over here.

I think the deep cover freeps have taken a big risk with this campaign - it is threatening to reveal more than just Vetwife...

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. Increase the drama noise to signal ratio to cool off Gannon investigation?

Honestly I hate to think tinfoil but shrubco's got me thinking more and more like this every day.

[UdoKier]

3. OMG - I Think you've hit on something! GannonGuckert was a VETERAN!!!!!!

She was mad at us for picking on ole JimmyJeff! After all, no veteran could possible have ever, ever, ever done anything wrong!

[Erika]

7. Let vetwife and Gannon go happily into freepland

Where they will be defended as Nobel prize winners.

[Must_B_Free]

10. OMG - You don't know how funny that is!

Look at this thread on my favoriate political board that's neutral

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=0&catid=69&threadid=442280

[neweurope]

31. People want Bush to get the Nobel peace prize there. Neutral?

--------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[autorank]

8. Well, it got turned off pretty quick. A blip in our overall progress

toward a true democracy...where else but on Democratic Underground would that movement take hold. I love this place.

[MichaelHarris]

2. was it an attack from within?

I read the thread and everyone had good points with her but she did seen not to listen and had an "agenda". I've been here over a year and have never seen soldier bashing she had described.

[UdoKier]

6. Good point. I've been here for 3 years and it's been exceedingly rare.

Why all the theatrics over something that so seldom takes place? It does make one suspicious...

[MichaelHarris]

I actually put alot of thought

into it and I can't remember one post that stayed attacking soldiers. I have seen, and rightfully so reporting on abuses by some soldiers i.e torture, pride in killing such as that marine guy, and the like. Soldiers like that need to be discussed as well as prosecuted.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

I think the loud exit was preprogrammed. I'm not fully convinced yet

that she was a sleeper mole the whole time.

I don't know that there was any particular "troop bashing escalation" happening in the last few weeks or months that would have prompted this action.

I'm 2/3 of the way more towards the theory that she is a sincere but unstable zealot capable of "snapping" and becoming a Republican Bush lover overnight. Will be interested to see if she makes any reference to Bush, good or bad, on her "new buddy" sites.

But evidence could convince me of either that or the sleeper mole thingy.

[MichaelHarris]

17. A true

supporter of the troops would be up in arms against bush and his team cutting health care and the like for our veterans, that should have been her mandate, NOT attacking liberals with a blanket accusation.

[Nite Owl]

25. Saw this on another thread

http://groups.msn.com/FocusGroupNow/_whatsnew.msnw

Seems like she did snap. She went over to the dark side. And what gets me is that she says she supports the troops and goes to the ones that won't support them.

[Erika]

She bashed DU'rs

as being against the troops. That's never been the case, so you want to join her?

[autorank]

4. Her post was entirely without merit. I think you're right.

I'm here a lot since a couple of months prior to the election. I've seen nothing like what she was talking about. I have seen a couple of post that could be interpreted as critical of the troops (WTF, this is a free forum) and those posters were jumped on quickly. I think that there has been a lot of self policing and self restraint to avoid just what she talked about. She's a ringer, IMHO, and yes, they're probably getting desperate. The only conservative sites I go to are paleo-con sites which are harsher on Bush than we are, e.g., Paul Craig Roberts (my God!). I can't understand why a Freeper would come her or why any of us would go there.

[Romberry]

5. DU has more Freepers than I can count.

The rules say you can't call people on it but I know deep inside that this place is just lousy with Freepers. They're here to disrupt and they do a damned fine job of it. That's not a slam at DU. The fact is that on any free forum where liberals and progressives gather, Freepers and others like them make it a point to jump in and start as much sh*t as they can. Salon's Table Talk used to be lousy with 'em too until they went pay-to-play to post on the Table Talk forums. The few that remained after that are entirely in the open.

[mermaid]

12. God I Hate Fucking Freepers!!!

Why the hell can't they just leave us the fuck alone??

I really wish we could just split the country in two and have done with it. All DU'ers and libs now living in what would become the new red country would get a one-time amnesty to move to the blue country. And vice-versa.

And then WE can have OUR country, and let the stupid fucking Repukes just kill one another for all I care. Sincerely, we should just divide the country and have done with it.

[Sapphire Blue]

27. The Blue Country

[mermaid]

29. I'm Not Sure That Is Entirely An Accurate Depiction

Isn't Alberta, Canada supposed to be prtty bacd with fundie whackos?

Maybe you oughta put them in with the Grey Country here...I think, from what I have heard, they may like that better.

[Sapphire Blue]

30. Let them immigrate to the United State of Texas

Your amnesty suggestion would apply.

[seabeyond]

24. personally the only thing i am bothered about freepers

is they rile people up turning people against each other. probably what happened on some threads i was on, i was astonished the way some people believed, or thought. i just dont think that way. i would have no desire to play a game like that. not in my head. so i dont look out for it. if someone just wanted to talk different views, i am game. it is the deceitfulness, then to go back to their little room and high five their friends, like high schoolers, and giggle like a bunch of little girls. ok i see little boys giggle too. i even giggle still

i digress

and laugh that they got one over us. what silliness. they are the fools for being so pathetic, not i that would never think an adult would behave so childish.

[fooj]

9. In a thread the other day a DUer was bragging about posting here

as a freeper...bragging how we had missed them "getting in under the radar"...wanted members to take a guess at who they were? Said there were more...

Does anyone else remember this thread?

[mermaid]

13. It Wasn't A Thread - It Was A Letter In The Most Recent Hatemail Bag n/t

[fooj]

22. Thanks. I knew I'd read it somewhere on this site.

[Erika]

14. Yes, he boasted over 1,000 posts

He declared it as some some of victory. I passed on the response. I figured DU must have been very liberal to allow his extreme posts. I'd rather be liberal than being like the freepers who wish no one to post who isn't lock in step.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I remember that!

[Pinboy]

18. Hate Mailbag v. 24 (2/19), under: The Definition Of "Obsession" eom

[coloradodem2005]

11. I don't understand. What has been going on?

I really missed something here. I had done a little reading and there seems to be some division over vetwife. Some here think she's a ringer and others think that she was treated unjustly. I am certainly not saying anything to be mean, but could someone shed some light on this for me? I completely missed it.

[Erika]

16. She portrayed herself as some kind of a victim by libs

Enough to turn me off. There are no posts against her, but she went victim anyway. Glad she's gone.

[Erika]

21. And she pretended libs were against the troops

Not one post substantiated her irrational stand. Good by to bad rubbish. Let her go back into the blindless freeperland.

[seabeyond]

19. she attacked all of du for troop bashing

a real ham it up post and said goodbye. the more people started checking, found her on two conservative sites bad mouthing du and a moderator to one of the site.

did you enjoy your book, lol and a wink

[Solon]

20. She basically accused all of us of Anti-Veteran bias...

as well as some other posts that got her banned, some of us did some research. She moderates on two conservative forums, one is CU the other is The American Conservatives Forums.

Funny thing on that forum though, look at what I dug up:

http://www.1-2-free-forums.com/mf/americanconserv-about661.html&highlight=

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

23. Here... better make some coffee...

Here is the original "swan song" post and replies...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3181381

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3183071

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3184152#3185582

Here are pages from an MSN forum of hers, including where she announces she is changing party affiliation in the second link...

http://groups.msn.com/FocusGroupNow/amandakato.msnw

http://groups.msn.com/FocusGroupNow/_whatsnew.msnw

Vetwife is revealed to be moderating at CU (the DU bashing site) and at American Conservative Forums' Veterans forum.

[Erika]

26. Surprise...Not.

Republicans are ALWAYS the victim of someone else. She projected that image 100%. She should see www.icasualties.org to see who the victims of her GOP party are.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

28. Did she ever reply on the threads documenting the Iraq soldier deaths?

[DemBones DemBones]

32. Well. . .

I'm just learning about this tempest in a teaspoon, having been offline for 24 hours.

My observations:

1) vetwife always was a self-aggrandizing poster (not that that's necessarily a sign of freeperism) and I suspect she got pissed off because she wasn't getting enough attention here.

2) I lurked here the first year DU existed, then started posting, have never seen real anti-military sentiment here, and it's something I always notice since I grew up in a military family. (An occasional anti-military post, sure, but never a trend at DU.)

3) Life goes on. (Obla-di, obla-da.)