More musings by a Conservative Troll. Oh but vetwife's a peach.

[trumad]

BTW: This was posted on a forum called the Right Society.

[H2O Man]

1. Sad.

I think she is a confused person.

[detroitguy]

29. Maybe, but...

...she IS entitled to her views. And I am a little worried that the backlash against her is more harmful than anything she posted. Specifically, I would not want DU to have a culture that causes some people to be chased out and others to censor themselves out of fear of being chased out.

Here is what I posted last night: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3186991&mesg_id=3187241

[Cooley Hurd]

2. "I am an independent and have 'always' voted for Republicans..."

Possibly, she misspoke but doesn't "always" mean, like, "every time?" Does this mean she didn't vote for Kerry?:shrug:

[rooboy]

10. Hmmm. Just like Bill O'Reilly.n/t

[Mr_Spock]

11. I hate to say this, but I didn't vote "straight ticket" until recently

It almost sounded like she was trying to exagerate her Republican votes by saying she never voted straight Democratic ticket. Heck, I used to pick and choose who I voted for until the Repukes went completely insane under the neocons.

Now the idea that we don't worship her enough and using the excuse that Dems suppress her is completely egocentric and assinine. Play both sides, be loved by neither in the end. Well, except that the other side doesn't care if you're Satan so long as they have you on their side.

[bush_is_wacko]

39. Me too. There USED to be a FEW Republicans worth voting for

I didn't follow vetwife much. I probably only read one or two of her posts before yesterday. I know several long time DUers are very angry at her and I can clearly see she MIGHT have been a troll. Her comments regarding DU are WAY off the mark IMO. I feel like I lean a little conservative on several issues myself but I have never felt persecuted because I lean conservative on them.

I have to admit I never voted for a Republican presidential candidate, but I did like Reagan, initially. He fooled me for a while. I have however, voted for local Republican candidates in the past. This country really DID used to present candidates that were worth voting for on BOTH sides of the aisle. I don't know what happened. The sickness has become pervasive on one side of the aisle and I see it creeping into the other side too.

I voted for a Democrat this year that I am starting to doubt in a big way. His predecessor got elected as a Dem and then changed his mind halfway through his term and declared to everyone he was a THUG. That felt like TOTAL betrayal. Especially since he REALLY meant what he said and followed the party hardliners like a lost puppy for the remainder of his term. I will say though, I know of a few Democrats I will NEVER vote for either. One is from my own state and I am fully aware of what his "record" is so I feel pretty confident I make the right choice when I say he will never get my vote, for any reason.

Well now you know enough about my voting record to condemn me if that is what DU is all about. Honestly, I think vetwife was VERY wrong in her characterization. I guess I'll find out though.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. How high was her post counts before she got tombstoned?

She was definitely a mole. I still don't understand how they can manage to demonize lefties who respect the vets enough to want them out of a war that proved to have no valid cause for action. Vetwife must be an example of a conservative trying to cause an hysterical distraction so that people don't have the time to reflect that the conservatives were wrong to send those poor souls to an early grave. Meanwhile, while they have the gullible masses directing their anger at us, they, who supported this war, are making a quiet exit, stage right.

[No Exit]

22. HUH! I am registered as Independent, too, and have almost always voted R

...Until the first election after the ILLEGAL INVASION OF 2003, WHICH HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS TO NO PURPOSE (not to mention the Iraqis it has killed--to no purpose!) I voted for JOHN F. KERRY, and I will vote for the democrat in the next election.

Hey "Vet Wife": the party that left ME was your precious republican party! True story! Your republican party committed an UNFORGIVABLE and DEADLY sin. It foisted on the American people the most corrupt and evil man who has ever held the Presidency.

For that, "Vet Wife", your republican party can never, ever, ever be forgiven. The republican party must be destroyed (politically, that is), and the ground must be salted under it. I WILL VOTE STRAIGHT DEMOCRAT FROM NOW ON.

Enjoy your brainwashing, echo-chamber, so-called "conservative" forums; please quit trying to brainwash those of us who have found the truth.

PS If you're so invested in veterans, why do you stand by and let your party trash veteran after veteran: John McCain, Max Cleland, John Kerry--all in defense of a wet-brained alcoholic who disgraced the armed services of the United States by failing to do his duty, and getting away with it?

[detroitguy]

32. You make GREAT points

I know several people who say they are, in their hearts, moderate Republicans. But they vote Democratic because their party has shifted so far to the right. Even William G. Milliken, the former Republican governor of Michigan, has come out against Bush.

http://www.record-eagle.com/2004/oct/18mil2.htm

Sadly, there is little room in the GOP these days for reasonable guys like Milliken.

[detroitguy]

31. I took that to mean that...

...she is a ticket-splitter. But she did phrase it in an awkward way.

[Deja Q]

34. Her own quote condemns her as much a hypocrite as those she hates.

Have fun vetwife. You know yourself more than you know.

[Gman]

3. I don't know why she bothered to sign up here

based on what she wrote. She knew she wasn't going to find anyone to agree with her on her conservative issues. The only reason that makes sense is to disrupt.

BTW Trumad, does your computer run slow? You sure have a lot of stuff running down in the system tray.

[Sparkly]

4. Democrats were "trying to take away" what??

"Free will and the right to disagree?" Huh?

Unbelievable!!

[madrchsod]

5. jesus christ

she is going to every conserative website. ducttape made it to 10000 some posts,vetwife only made 5000+ posts. she has a bigger problem than a few posters at democratic underground. let`s face the fact- we have wasted more bandwidth on her than what she deserves.

[leftyandproud]

20. "only" 5,000 posts? Good lord.

and ducctape made 10,000 before "coming out"? Man, I can't imagine tolerating the Freeps for that long. How did they do it here?

[Vickers]

33. I think that even a freeper sees some value here

Ithink that they KNOW we're right, but some reptilian thing drags them (eventually) back to the dumb side. :shrug:

Personally, I'm glad that vetwife left. Even when she posted things I agreed with, she seemed whiney and frazzled.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

38. Ductape was NOT a conservative or a freeper

[mhr]

6. Case Closed - A Traitor To The Cause

My take is that we Liberals are much too accommodating to the right.

Our belief in tolerance makes us targets for the likes of VetWife.

She has obviously confused criticism of the President's War with criticism of Veterans in general.

That being said, there are specific examples of bad apples in all walks of life, including veterans and presidents.

[Loki]

7. And as this administration cuts vet benefits to the bone

I hope that Vetwife will truly understand the meaning of hipocracy, but I doubt it. She's still looking for her 15 minutes of fame.

[IndianaGreen]

8. maybe I am missing something, or my computer is screwed up

but all I see is a blank post, trumad.

[H2O Man]

9. You are lucky.

The actual post is sad, indeed.

[IndianaGreen]

18. I gather it is sad

except I can't see it.

[trumad]

21. Right click on the pic's up above

copy the url, and then paste it in your browser. That should work.

Sorry about the big pictures.

[IndianaGreen]

25. I think my anti-spyware software is blocking it

I'll take your word that it is sad and pathetic.

[IndianaGreen]

28. I got this from another poster in another thread

I walk in lockstep with no one. I am a dem no more but it is not party affiliation that makes a person. I am an American.

http://forums.therightsociety.com/default.aspx?f=22&m=101684&g=102371#m102371

This reminds me of Pat Buchanan saying "I believe in America First"!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

12. If she dares say anything against the emperor, she will soon learn how

much she is loved by the RWers.

[Fovea]

14. "how ridiculous the Dems were acting"

Yeah, we got our panties in a bunch all right, and over what?
Just the systematic theft of our democracy by a group of single party rule thugs
who were willing to lie, cheat, and disenfranchise Dem voters in at least two battleground states. And not just once, but in 3 election cycles now.

We are a bunch of silly old Dems.
/sarcasm

If anyone wants to follow her nose high into the swamp because of our treatment of her during her hallucinatory rant on our supposed mistreatment of vets, feel free. As far as I am concerned, this is a great example of a Zell Miller Democrat doing what comes naturally.

[TomClash]

15. The first time I read about this woman

was Trumad's discovery.

Like the rest of the Bush crowd, I don't think she cares as much about veterans as she does about her own vitriolic ideology. She could be Zell MIller's lost love child.

[trumad]

19. She has another post at that forum

that say's she voted for Zell in every election.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

24. In defense of that I've heard that Zell used to be a much more palatable

Dem politician in the past, such as when he introduced Clinton etc.

But not having followed GA politics I can't really say.

So I wouldn't hold that against her.

[xchrom]

16. another lost cause

she doesn't even believe what she's saying -- that makes her a liar.

[Riding this Donkey]

17. She does have post on Free Republic as well. I think it is her

and they all know her very well.

postings under vetwife:


http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3963929651cf.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a371dcd081ba2.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3948807454fa.htm

http://forums.therightsociety.com/default.aspx?f=22&m=102383

And a listing of all her posts at the Right Society (barf)
read the last one it is tantalizing....

http://forums.therightsociety.com/search.aspx?f=22

edit: can't get the link to work, but here a new one:

http://forums.therightsociety.com/default.aspx?f=22&m=101684&g=102371#m102371

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

23. The fr posts seem less obviously to be the DU "vetwife". The ones on

CU and Am Conserv. Forum etc. are much more obviously her, they have identifying pics, identifying bio info in the profile, and she posts the same poem/message she posted in her "swan song" thread.

The fr posts are quite old. I think those ones could very well be someone else.

[Riding this Donkey]

26. I just edited the post, did you see the last link, they are talking

self delete that sentence, let people make their own opinions..

[Walt Starr]

44. I've given her the benefit of the doubt on the FR posts

She claimed on the Guy James show that she did not own a computer when the FR vetwife signed up. I can buy that.

[Kahuna]

36. YIKES!!! I took up for her yesterday....

Now nowing this, she can kiss me where the sun don't shine.

[ultraist]

37. hhhmmm...

From a freeper post linked above:

You know I don't know what you are trying to say but I will tell you this, Jesus was also called a Nut. I'll bet anybody within the Nazi death camps were probably called nuts too before they reached their final destination. Germany had the "report your neighbor" program in effect too. Maybe that is why so many people have been thrown to the wolves. I only know what I read and all I read is not JBS. Maybe you should take a look at all the websites out there that know the score. I am not force feeding you like the propaganda machine is doing. You don't have to believe. Its a matter of putting all the pieces of the puzzle together and forming your own opinion. Personally, I believe the intent of the UN is exactly what they have blatantly said - Gobal Governance and the removal of all guns.

Notice the Jesus talk and the use of "feeding you like the propaganda machine."

IMO, that is the SAME vetwife. She loves that word, "machine" and uses a lot of God talk.

[Walt Starr]

41. I fell for that one being her

it's not. Apparently our vetwife did not own a computer when tha vetwife signed up on FR.

[Riding this Donkey]

43. Proof, do you know that for a fact....LOL, I mean who could believe her??

Just making a statement. No offense to you Walt!:hi:

edit sp

[kohodog]

27. A Troll by any other name is a Troll

Or,

A Troll

is a Troll

is a Troll.


This one looks like she's off her meds. But the internets allow people to pretend to be anything they want, and I'm sure there are a few more time bombs posting on DU.

Perhaps it's time we move on and let this one go?

[RetroLounge]

30. Well, she certainly spells like a freeper.

just saying...

RL

[Carni]

35. *Free will* "Again something the Dems are trying to take away"

What a freeper cow.

I am sorry I but there is NO WAY this individual wasn't a right winger from the get go based on the posts I just read above.

If you are reading "Vetwife" -- F you and the horse you rode in on.

You lack all ethical and moral intergrity.

The lowest form of life has to be assholes like you running around playing Conservative mole and posturing on Cspan to get your 15 minutes of fame at the expense of our troops and their families.

If you actually gave a rat's ass about the troops... you wouldn't be bashing the people that are trying to bring them home and get them some international backup (as in MANPOWER)

[bettyellen]

40. is she going to play her anti-bush CD for her new friends

i am sorry for those of you who got attached to this person, but she obviously is an attention grabbing flake, and seems to have been here to hawk a dumb CD using pity for her as a sales tool. she'll probably run out of political sites to ply with her wares and start selling vet wife recipes on a cooking forum.

[Riding this Donkey]

42. I really think she is a con, looking to make money and a name for

herself.

I think she would take advantage of anyone, be it republican or democrat.

Be thankful she has turned her sites to them! Although she has been in their midst for years now!

I totally agree with you

[Moderator]

45. Locking

These threads have gotten out of control. This is now a private matter between the admins and the banned member. If anyone has questions or comments, they can post in the Ask the Admins forum.

Thanks for your concern.