George Bush isn't gay

[dsc]

I am beyond tired of hearing this nonsencical theory posited on DU. Bush is married, with children, and has been reputed to have paid for an abortion for a previous girlfriend. All of that points to straight. On the gay side we have the fact he stayed friends with Victor Ashe, who may or may not, be gay. This isn't a preponderence of the evidence it is nearly all the evidence that Bush is straight. I realize that some would love to add to Bush's list of hypocritical acts, his being a gay man who would alter the Constitution to prevent marriage equality, but we will have to stick with the following list:

draft dodger who is currently drafting people for Iraq
marijuana user who jails marijuana users
probable cocaine user who jails cocaine users
benificiary of the legacy system who rails against Afirmative Action
crass defender of smearing Gore and McCain who tells us he will change the tone of Washington

This really is enough hypocricy to go around. We don't need to invent it.

[dave123williams]

1. Mickey Mantle could hit 500 feet from both sides of the plate. Capice?

[tuvor]

2. Also: A "Christian" who ignores Christ's teachings.

You're right. We have plenty of ammo.

[Itsthetruth]

3. Not So Sure

Didn't Bush say he had a man date after the election?

[jefferson_dem]

4. Well, he's not "gay" if you're talking in terms of orientation...

at least i don't think so.

If you're talking about "gay" in the modern colloquial sense, as often employed by the teens of today (i.e. "Homework is so gay"), he most certainly is that.

By the way, i am quick to correct those same teens by shying them away from that particularly offensive meaning of the word.

[tx_dem41]

5. When people use the Ashe evidence, aren't they saying that a

gay man and straight man can't ever be friends? Unbelievable what ugly thoughts can emanate from people when trying to gain political power.

[HockeyMom]

7. Bad Man, Very Bad Man

to quote Lynn Cheney. Good quote, wrong person.

[tx_dem41]

9. Help me out...

Your message was kind of cryptic...or I'm just dense. :-)

[skids]

6. You left some stuff out...

Personally I have no idea about his sexuality.

But if you're going to stack up the evidence and compare each side, you should be thorough. Victor is not the only evidence on the one side.

[dsc]

10. The only other thing I have seen posted here

was the fraternity stuff, which if every frat boy who did that kind of thing as part of initiation were gay, then there would be a whole lot of gay frat boys out there.

[skids]

24. There's much more than that.

I don't think this is a particularly productive line of research, because the fundies are so twisted that they will just claim he's "repented" and not be bothered about it. They do whatever they are told.

But if you are interested, try this thread here:

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/lofiversion/index.php?t39190.html

[RapidCreek]

26. I imagine there are....they are the ones who came up with the

defense of marraige bullshit. Heaven knows what would happen to these fellas marrages if the option of divorce from their beards and marraige to their frat boy lovers fell into the socially acceptable realm.

I think guys like Bush need the Gay communities support. He's and his brothers are attempting to legislate self control. How difficult it must be maintaining the facade of heterosexuality....and worrying about the woes of the inevitable divorce which would, no doubt, ensue when ones surrenders to the siren song of gay love.

I mean it seems obvious to me....anyone who refers to the prevention of gay marraige as "the defense of marraige" is obviously a latent, or in the closet, homosexual.

RC

[kaitykaity]

8. I think he's a bottom to Condi's top myself.

Her foundness for leather stilettos didn't do anything
to dissuade me.

[ecoalex]

18. One of shrub's frat buds at Yale

was quoted as saying , w was conflicted with women , but "was a gentle and caring lover."

He was a cheerleader

His parents had him "degayed at a Christian Camp specialising in
de "gaying people" .

The guy is gay .

[tx_dem41]

19. So let me get this right...male cheerleaders are "gay". Got it.

The things you learn on DU. :eyes:

[kaitykaity]

22. I don't think they had "de-gaying" camps back then.

You'd need to provide some sort of backup for that
statement. I'm not buying it.

[Benhurst]

11. I don't know or care whether or not he's gay; but what's this weird

fixation he has for bald men's heads. He pats them, he fondles them, he kisses them, all in public and with those of what I presume to be perfect strangers.

I find it disgusting that no one dares pull back from The Leader's bazaar advances. His next victim ought to slap him with a sexual harassment suit, big time.

Typo corrected. :spank: Harder, Jeff!

[Us vs Them]

12. Just to play devil's advocate

I agree that posts intending to claim evidence of a man's sexual identity are pointless, but just for some funny evidence that married + kids does not always equal straight:

Culled from the New York Craig's List Men for Men section. Keyword search: married

http://newyork.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/search?areaID=3&subAreaID=0&query=married&cat=m4m&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max

[dsc]

13. You have a point

but here there are no ads. There are no former male lovers claiming Bush broke their hearts, there are no checks to male hustlers, there is nothing save a friendship with Ashe.

[Us vs Them]

14. I think people claim Bush is gay to make themselves feel better

It's like when the school counselor tells you your bully is just mean because he has repressed self-esteem issues. Is this true? Who knows, you could just be a little weanie who is fun to get a laugh out of.

[shadowknows69]

31. It does make me feel better

It means I'm getting more pussy than the President. Couldn't say that with Clinton. It's a small personal victory but I enjoy it. :hippie:

[tx_dem41]

32. As incensed as I get during debates like this, let me just say...

this is the funniest post I've read in awhile. :-)

[B Calm]

15. We know that he's got a thing for bald headed men...

[flordehinojos]

16. once upon a time i took up a poetry class...whereupon, in addition to

writing our own poetry, we had to read the poems of other poets ...
there was a poet whose first name was John (I can't recall the last name) who... after twenty plus years of marriage and several children admitted to himself, his wife and his children that he was in love with another MAN. His poems were about that process. So the point I am trying to make here...don't for once think that a marriage, a wife, children, and impregnation of women all spell HETEROSEXUALITY... sometimes it doesn't, as in the case of this poet named John ...PLUS, according to CARL JUNG each of us carries the potential inisde of us to fall in love with a person of the same sex ... and also according to JUNG those who fight homosexuality the most happen to be those people who have not come to terms with that reality within themselves...shocking as it may be.

[ignu]

17. If he were gay, which he's not, he wouldn't be a bottom

so give up the jeff gannon humping gw fantasy, okay.

you want to see a big ol' bottom, look at rove or mcclellan.

[Mr_Spock]

20. So, it's OK to say he's NOT gay, but don't ask people's opinions??????????

'cause the thread will get locked.

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[tx_dem41]

21. Well, at least you spelled it right. n/t

[femme.democratique]

23. Who says he isn't bi???? As for KKKarl....well, he's 100% gay!!!!

[Bluebear]

25. But Rove is married

How do you claim he is 100% gay?

[femme.democratique]

28. Ummm.....its been known to happen. These are repressed people....

[Bluebear]

29. Well ummmmmmmmm to you too lol

He may be repressed but with a wife and kids I don't know about the 100% bit :)

[Name removed]

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[ashmanonar]

30. how about he's

a twisted bastard who has been shielded from reality his entire life? he's an asshole par excellence, without a shred of compassion and without a feeling of remorse.

how can calling him gay top that?