Gannon Thread #1000. :-)

[Catherine Vincent]

You know what guys? I don't think Gannon was an escort and I also believe that he isn't even gay. He was just some guy that thought so much of himself that he wanted to show off his body. So he get in contact with people to advertise his body without actually selling his services in the process making a few extra bucks. Although the MSM hasn't talked much about Gannon, a few media outlets have. So how come no one person has come forward saying they hired Gannon for his services? The few times Gannon has been on tv, he has shown us how arrogant and cocky he is. I could see a guy like that advertising his goodies on the net for money.

[mr_hat]

1. Uh... um... What was the question?

[Catherine Vincent]

7. What was the answer?

[BuyingThyme]

2. How come nobody has admitted to being a john?

I could only guess.

[New Earth]

3. i disagree, a lot

i don't know if he actually is gay, which really doesn't matter, and i do think he was 'hired' for his services at some point or another.

who in the world would come forward and say "yes, i hired Gannon for a night?" Seriously, who would say that? they would be getting themselves in trouble.

i also don't think he comes off as cocky and arrogant, but emotionless and scared.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. Yeah, the scared part I could see too.

But if you think about it, no one really have any proof that he sold his services. And I think we should discontinue calling him a whore/hooker.

[bpilgrim]

12. how bout an inexperienced PRESSTITUTE?

:shrug:

peace

[Al-CIAda]

21. The guy had a price sheet.

$200/hr -$1200 weekend.
He suggested places to take him, things to do.
He was an escort...hooker...prostitute...booty-buddy, you know, a whore.

[troubleinwinter]

38. Puhleeze..

"we should discontinue calling him a whore/hooker" WHY? He advertised himself and marketed himself as such. HE posted testimony from his supposed satisfied customers.

If the testimonies were bogus, he is a LIAR and should come out and say as much.

While I don't know if he is gay or not, HE is the one to have given a public online profile, offering his homosexual prostitution service for hire.

"no one really have any proof that he sold his services"... well, look at the ads, the testimonies of his clientelle... and if it walks like a fuckin duck... Huh? What? I shouldn't believe my lyin eyes? Why not?

He is a proven LIAR. And a plagiarist. He doesn't even claim that he wasn't a hooker. Even if he did, there'd be no reason for me to take him at 'his word'.

[madrchsod]

4. ?????

gannon isn`t gay..ok if you say so

[Catherine Vincent]

9. Just my opinion.....for now.

[flyarm]

5. i guess you missed reading all of his web sites and how he was rated by

by some of his johns!!
in fact one high military type!! keep reading!! you are bound to find it!!
and its pretty graphic!!

i think you are way off base..but keep reading..

may i suggest you start here!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3144209&mesg_id=3144209

and then move on to here!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3155132&mesg_id=3155132

thats just for starters!!


fly

[Catherine Vincent]

10. I read some of those letters, but that's still isn't proof.

For all we know, Gannon and his co-partners may have written them. Btw, I am a participant in those two threads that you provided. I don't know what that has to do with my thread.

[bpilgrim]

13. "I don't know what that has to do with my thread"

coming off as ignorant to the known facts and wild speculation in face of the known facts probably has something to do with it :shrug:

peace

[Al-CIAda]

22. lmao...yeah, the term 'top' is not in heterosexual vocab. -eom

[Catherine Vincent]

24. That doesn't mean he didn't do his homework.

He more than likely chatted with gay friends to get the "in" thing to say and do.

[flyarm]

50. uhh huh ... sure!!

yeah right!!

fly

[Ms. Clio]

52. The term "top" is certainly in the heterosexual vocabulary

When the hets are playing S&M games.

[Warpy]

6. Un, hiring somebody with a military fetish

who said he was a top, only, and who hinted very strongly at being into rough trade is not something anyone would ever want anyone else to know.

He's exactly the type a closeted, self loathing gay would hire, a macho type who would convince him there was nothing "womanish" about it.

Those guys aren't about to set one toe outside the closet.

[bpilgrim]

11. going with your gut, eh?

you provide 0 evidence nor any conjecture that makes any sense.

do you think we should drop it now?

peace

[Catherine Vincent]

14. Oh heck no. This is just someting I've thought about over the weekend.

Who knows, maybe next week I'll have a different view.

[bpilgrim]

19. kewl

progressives are known for keeping open minds ;->

:hi:

peace

[Swamp Rat]

16. Dude, didn't you see his new book?

:D

[Catherine Vincent]

17. Smirk!

Just love that pic, SwampRat. I chuckle everytime I see it.:-)

[bpilgrim]

18. lol

though i don't think sponge bob would ever hang with that creep.

dude, you gotta add that do your online gallery :bounce:
http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4

:hi:

peace

[Swamp Rat]

26. How do I get more storage than just 4 photos?

Also, will I get kicked off of that website for anti-Bush stuff like this, for example:

[bpilgrim]

27. you should be able to upload as many as you want...

and since it is my site you will never get booted for anti bush images ;->

if you get an error MSG please copy-n-paste the error into a DU MSG for me and i will fix it.

:hi:

peace

[Swamp Rat]

29. I PMed you this message:

"Disk quota exceeded

You have a space quota of 1024K, your files currently use 968K, adding this file would make you exceed your quota."

My pics are normally between about 150-200k apiece (after I've reduced them). If I reduce them more they will look bad. For now, I will dump one or two so I can upload the Gannon pic. :)

Thanks bpilgrim.

:hi:

[bpilgrim]

33. great additions, thanks!

FYI - all du'ers can post images here -> http://images.GlobalFreePress.com

first create an account...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/register.php

then upload at will ;->

this way we can have a permanent archive to refer back to and post their image urls in your favorite blogs to remind folks that the neoCONs have no mandate.

don't forget to vote for your favorite images as well =)

if you have any problems ping me at DU.

psst... pass the word :bounce:

peace

[Sparkle]

35. ROTFL!!!!!!!

Oh man this is funny! But look at that six pack! I wonder if he still has it?

[Swamp Rat]

37. If he does, it's probably in the fridge. n/t

:P

[Babel_17]

15. My guess

is that most of Gannon's clientele are in the closet and with families.

The money involved implies they have careers. Careers that could be ruined in any number of ways.

A divorce lawyer could have a lot of fun with the story if the person was married.

Custody issues if divorced.

Security clearances if in military or gov't.

Admitting to wanting the services Gannon seems to have specialized in would probably carry an extra onus.

The activity was illegal.

Call me cynical but I think right wing blowhards with access to a TV camera and/or a microphone might think the "outer" was fair game.

They have been known to be less than gentle.

Should any seriousness be given to their claims they could expect a real physical disruption to their lives by way of the press at their door etc.

Afaik most gays who engage in closeted affairs don't take outing each other lightly.

Yes, Gannon's hypocrisy could be a factor in that but a person with principles could still be loathe to out someone.



And last but not least, not everyone remembers the faces of prostitutes they hire.

[Catherine Vincent]

23. "...not everyone remembers the faces of prostitutes they hire."

That is true.

I was going to post you a link to a thread that I had a conversation with someone from this early morning but it looks like that whole thread was deleted. That conversation was one of the reasons I now believe that he wasn't an escort. This blogger had contacted one of Gannon's web partners. Now I wished I printed the thread.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

[troubleinwinter]

39. "That conversation was one of the reasons I now believe that he wasn't an

escort".

Huh?

[oasis]

20. We're going to ride Gannon's hairy ass up to the front door of the WH.

Fasten your seat belts gang.

[flyarm]

25. i sure hope so!!

i am sick of these wh pigs getting away with all the lies and to go this far at propaganda is to spit on the security that those of us with the airlines have had to deal with and the sham of security needs to be exposed , even if it has to start at the wh!!
no one at this wh has been accountable for anything.,,not even the deaths of my co-workers or the innocent lives of 9/11..these pigs have all walked scott free, and the media has been their greatest accomplices!
i am sick of it!!

and i am sick of the propaganda!!
i want them held accountable..no matter how high it goes..and it goes to the top!
they are all filthy liars!

fly

[blogslut]

28. hey there

I'm the one you had the convo with.

What I said was that while there is no PROOF Jim/Jeff was a hooker or gay, there is PROOF he was an Internet pornographer. He sold gay porn on the web via an affiliate/sponsor program.

I suggested that we re-frame Jim/Jeff as an Internet pornographer because he was and I have PROOF.

[troubleinwinter]

40. Though we don't have "PROOF"

that he was a hooker... we know that he advertised himself and posted VERY graphic "testimonies" from his "clients". Maybe not "proof", but apparent evidence.

YOU may have "PROOF" that he sold pornography, WE do not. Wanna show it?

[blogslut]

44. read my blog

http://blogslut.com

the Feb 21 entry

[troubleinwinter]

53. Help me understand:

His "prostution ads" and "client testimonials" may or may not be fantasy, but what he WAS selling was subscription $$ access to online pornographic pictures??? Do I have it correct?

[blogslut]

54. correct

Look, I'm not saying Jim/Jeff WASN'T a gay escort.

The thing is, these pages with price lists and client testimonials are not proof. I would be thrilled if we could find proof that the man was a hooker. I would be ecstatic if there were evidence of a clentele.

At the moment, his being and Internet pornographer is a solid fact. Guckert used his image and websites to sell memberships to a gay porn site.

The rethugs are doing the rove/reverse psychology thing and making it look as if the left are hypocritical in their support of gays.

We can turn this around and call Guckert something that is incontrovertibly true

Jeff Gannon: Internet Porographer

[troubleinwinter]

56. OK. Thanks for the clarification... got it!

The gay angle only points to the hypocrisy of the right, but I see your point about it being turned around on us.

Hmmmm... now prostitution IS illegal.

Pornography isn't. So attacking JG as a pornographer only supports Gonzales' efforts, so we are stuck in a dilemma. His being a pornographer is a proven fact, but that is not illegal, nor would we want to help the AG make it so.

Gay / prostitution / pornography all seem unimportant, except that prostitution is illegal, as is non-payment of taxes. The real story is the connection between Gannon/Bobby Eberle and Rove/McClellan/Fleischer. Connection between Eberle and Rove is another proven fact.

[flyarm]

51. yes and i read every bit of the "JOHN" reports about gannon...

i need no more proof than that , and that was on gannons site...one from a military "john"..i do not have to read it more than once to "get it!"
whats not to get??

well * may get a good case offff...oh never mind!! use your imagination!!

May be * can now get a purple heart..for schtupping a m4m military hooker!!

fly

[Catherine Vincent]

42. Hi there,

I was hoping you'd be back.:hi: And yeah, I remember what you said but after talking to you I kinda agreed with my previous assertion that he may not be a hooker. It's what I thought early on but never said anything about it. And I know you have the proof, I read thru your blog. I was going to link it but didn't know if it was okay.

[blogslut]

45. hi back :)

i went ahead and put the link in here.

[Toucano]

30. He's gay and he's a whore.

Most men who use gay prostitutes are closeted, so no one is going to come forward, especially since he specialized in military fantasies.

There was no "make a few extra bucks" from his websites. Most of his listings were on free services. The one that required an AdultCheck ID may have given him a portion of that fee, but that's it from the web.

Also, the Blade has pictures of him at a gay party that "always turns into an orgy...". One of the pictures has him in a sexual situation.


http://washingtonblade.com/2005/2-18/news/national/reporter.cfm

The story isn't over.

[blogslut]

31. he was an affiliate

of malecorps.com. he sold memberships to their site via his USMCPT page

[blogslut]

32. cat_girl25

I bookmarked this thread if you ever need to refer to it again. Sorry about the other thread. I think it just fell off.

Guckert sold gay porn on the web. This is a fact. For proof, see my blog. It's in my profile.

[Catherine Vincent]

43. Yeah, we can bookmark this thread and then maybe later

after you get your post count up, you can start a thread and keep us up to date on your findings. The other thread didn't fall off, they should stay in archive for a while but what happened was probably the original poster was tombstoned.

[ronnykmarshall]

34. I wish I still had the link.

But a few years ago, I was checking out some various gay/porn realted yahoo groups and I came across Gannon's yahoo ID. Why I remember it you ask? His picture on his profile was HOT, but he had a link to his "conservative guy.com" website also on his profile.

This guy is gay. This guy is a whore. Period.

[blogslut]

41. where is your proof?

Until you can find it, the web pornographer thing is the one thing we know he is.

I'm in the Internet porn business and I hate to break it to you but it's ALL AN ILLUSION. Guckert could easily be a straight guy who wanted to exploit a very profitable niche. Just because he posts some rates and some "customer testimony" doesn't mean it's real. What is real is that he sold smut on the web.

Maybe you're not paying attention but Senator Brownback and Focus on the Family are working very hard to get my field shut down. The AG has implemented new rules on model identification that are very dangerous to the safety of the models. COPA is still in the courts. The very first act from the new AG was to announce they're appealing the Rob Black case.

For all intents and purposes, my livelihood is under attack and this little schmuck gets a free pass to the White House?

Jeff Gannon: Internet Pornographer

It's got a nice ring to it, don'tcha think?

[blogslut]

47. americablog reiterates my point

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/hey-red-state-guys-and-jeff-gannon.html

" Hey Red State Guys (and Jeff Gannon), Bush Admin. is coming for your porn
by Joe in DC - 2/28/2005 05:52:00 PM

In keeping with the Bush Administration obsession with sex, the new Attorney General, Alberto Gonzalez, has made porn a top priority for the Justice Department according to the Associated Press:

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Monday he would move aggressively to prosecute obscenity cases, and he laid out a broader agenda much like that of his predecessor, John Ashcroft.

In his first lengthy address since becoming attorney general in early February, Gonzales said people who distribute obscene materials do not enjoy constitutional guarantees of free speech..."

[Catherine Vincent]

48. Blogslut,

If you ever have any time (who does), when you get a chance can you read thru these DU threads? Here is the link---->http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3196579 . This is the 4th thread (it started today) but the other 3 are linked in the first post. It will take you a while to read it. I'd like to get your thoughts on it.

[blogslut]

55. my thoughts are

that, while fascinating, the numbers don't add up.

Guckert is 47, which means he would have been 24 in the year of Gosch's kidnapping

[troubleinwinter]

57. That issue of Gucket's age is questionable.

On his prostitution sites, he claimed a much younger age. Early 30's.

This guy tells so many lies, one cannot rely on anything he says.

[Catherine Vincent]

58. Yes but Guckert says he's 47, that doesn't mean it's true.

Who knows how old he is. Imo, he looks to be in his mid 30s. And someone on another thread said he looks 47 because of lines around his eyes. That doesn't mean a thing. He could have lead a hard life. Like I said before, if this dude is pushing 50, he must have been drinking from the fountain of youth at those press conferences.:-)

[tblue37]

36. I am reminded of the Stephen Wright joke:

I don't know if my girlfriend is really pretty or if she just looks that way.

If a man advertises himself as a whore but doesn't get any customers, that doesn't mean he isn't a whore. It just means he is a lousy failure as a whore.

(Frankly, though, I don't think he is a failed whore. My guess is that he's been pretty successful at his chosen profession.)

[thecorster]

46. LOOK AT THIS!

My God, we've found the smoking gun!



http://www.WhiteHouseMemos.com

[Catherine Vincent]

49. Jiggy probably would write something like that.

:-)