Limbaugh: "Women still live longer than men because their lives are easier

[LynneSin]

Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh said the following on the March 1 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: The life expectancy of men is drawing closer to that of women. Women still live longer than men because their lives are easier. This is -- (laughing, grunting) this is according to government statistics released yesterday.

Add it to the list.

The Rush Limbaugh Show claims an audience of more than 20 million listeners per week.

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btw, FUCK YOU LIMPBALLS!

[Theres-a]

1. That guy is a dick.

[mzmolly]

2. What a dumb ass. Yeah, being a single working Mom ... that's easy shit.

:eyes:

No wonder he's been married numerous times.

[Skidmore]

4. Single working mom or married working mom

doesn't make a difference. It's not easy. I've done both and been a full-time student and employee too.

What would a man without children and who has spent his life in a room gabbing to a microphone know about what is seen as traditional women's work still?

[mzmolly]

9. True, both are difficult. As is stay at home Mom, which I am currently.

But I still think single moms are under the most pressure/stress frankly.

Single Dad's and working Dad's have their "stress" as well, and I am not taking from them, but single Moms far outweigh them, that's my point.

[Skidmore]

17. I think both are hard.

Course, it depends on the man you end up with. Some guys never learn the functional purpose of the clothes basket and wouldn't acknowledge knowing the business end of a broom if handed one.

I agree that when I was a single mom, the additional financial pressure added greatly to the difficulty.

[Gelliebeans]

19. I agree with you mzmolly

and add to the fact that most women make .70 per every $1.00 a man earns means that a single moms situation are even more stressful.

[mzmolly]

58. Indeed. Single parents are unsung heros.

Especially underpaid single Mothers as you point out.

[lukasahero]

11. What's "mom" got to do with it?

From what I can see, he's suggesting that "women" have an easier life, not specifically those women who are mothers.

I'm not exactly sure what constitutes "easier" in his drug-infested mind or why exactly he thinks women have it - I'd love to hear his explanation of that one, but of course, he doesn't need an explanation - he speaks, the ditto heads repeat, now it's doctrine.

[mzmolly]

20. Because women are often Mothers and being a Mom is the MOST

challenging job in the world, "generally" speaking, and Limbaugh says women have it "easier?"

I was a working woman for 20 years, childless. Having a child was/is by far the MOST difficult yet rewarding thing I've ever done.

Also, women in the working world, have it HARDER than men, IMHO. But the fact is, that when women and men with children break up, the job of child rearing is often left to the woman. *I'm talking the majority of cases here ok?*

What's so hard to comprehend about my point?

[lukasahero]

34. Nothing's hard to comprehend

You have a point. I felt I had one, too.

He's not attacking mothers, he's attacking women. If we continue to separate mothers and non-mothers in a battle to see who's being insulted the most, we lose. If we, as all women, stand up to this crap, we might win. Instead we end up fighting each other and not him.

If we single out mothers as having a hard job, we win the point but lose the game. Most people will agree with that point. But it leaves his remaining point unaddressed and, as a result, somewhat validated - women (without children) have an easy life. If he had said that, would you have agreed?

[mzmolly]

35. Gotcha.

Though, I singled out Mothers because Motherhood is the most difficult job there is, and that job generally falls to ... women.

[lukasahero]

37. Well, yes, true enough ;-) eom

[lukasahero]

46. double post to say "I was wrong"

when I suggested that everyone would agree that being a mother is hard work. See post 43 and have at it. ;-)

[mzmolly]

55. I best not, as I'd like to cyber-slap the crap outta that poster.

And, I'm a firm believer in gentle discipline. Just goes to show you that some parents fail miserably huh? :P

[Iris]

83. Yep. Almost as bad as thinking everything you say is right and that

"everyone" agrees with you.

[mzmolly]

86. Come again?

:shrug:

[Iris]

87. You're suggesting everyone agrees that being a mother is the hardest "job"

there is.

I don't happen to agree.

[mzmolly]

96. Where did I say "everyone agrees" that Mothering is the hardest job there

is?

Here's what I said:

"I was a working woman for 20 years, childless. Having a child was/is by far the MOST difficult yet rewarding thing I've ever done."

AND...

"I singled out Mothers because Motherhood/parenting is the most difficult job there is and that job generally falls to women."

This is MY opinion. You and Rush disagree, so be it.

If your a Mother and you feel your 9/5 is more of a challenge then raising your kids, do share as I'm interested in what you do for a living, or what your parenting philosophy is?

I guess some parents don't give "parenting" much thought or care, and for them it might be "easy as pie."

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115. Thank ya!

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[Amaya]

131. What is your deal?

Btw, I am a mother and a nurse ... it's goddamn hard work. So what, that's my life. I enjoy it and understand what I do makes a difference. I'm not bitter, I work hard. Nuff said.

Another thing, I'm not going back and forth with you on this. Apparently you have some hostility towards mothers and you seems to be venting it at me. I don't feel like being a punching bag tonight. So, see ya...

[ultraist]

135. LOL! Yes, a detect some rage against mothers!!!

[mzmolly]

137. Indeed, Amaya hit it right on the head.

:hi:

[Iris]

138. Only mothers who want to go on and on about how put upon they are.

n/t

[mzmolly]

141. How bout Mothers who compare children to shit? Or aren't YOU a Mother?

n/t

BTW, I specifically referred to "SINGLE" Mothers/parents, and I'm not one of them. I have a partner who helps me care for my child.

So your remark about those who claim to be "put upon" is f*cked.

[mzmolly]

136. He/she *IT* is venting at all Mothers it seems Amaya.

Your correct in that it appears that there is a psychological reason for such blatent bitterness on *it's* part? I wonder what it is?

;)

[Warpy]

21. I'd love to see this fat slug follow me around for 12 hours

of a typical nursing shift. He wouldn't even have to do anything, just follow around and watch. His whole stash wouldn't allow him to survive the whole shift.

I've had dozens of jobs in all sorts of fields. Tools and equipment are all designed for male anatomy, meaning women will always have a tougher time at all jobs, including the traditionally "female" ones. Our ergonomics simply aren't considered during the design process.

Easier time, my ass. Men die younger because they sit on their fat asses and expect us to wait on them hand and foot, pigboy. You might consider not bothering with the next "beard" and learn to clean up after yourself for a change. You migh live longer.

[ultraist]

28. That's so true, our society is designed for men

Whether it's ergonomics for professional equipment or systems we cannot see that run our lives, it all caters to men.

LOL, pigboy is a good name for him or Limpdick.

I also have a theory that women live longer because they are more adept at processing emotions, whereas males tend to be more immature and prone to blow outs which stress the body.

Men do commit 90% of violent crimes in our society, so apparently, they have serious issues with anger management and dealing with emotions in general. Catering to someone and telling one they are the center of the universe in various ways, does tend to create spoiled brats (ie domineering bullies).

[Iris]

91. Well, at least they are now making our shoe laces a proportionate

length. I noticed this a.m. that I didn't have to wack of 6 inches on either side of the laces on my new sneakers today.

[ultraist]

99. LOL! I'd like to see equal pay for equal work in my lifetime too ;)

[mzmolly]

36. HA!

;)

[LynneSin]

42. As a Nurse, do you really want OxyRush following you around all day?

He'd be breaking into the pharmaceuticals!

[Canuckistanian]

49. Then you'd have to clean up his slime

Men won't do that kind of stuff either.

[China_cat]

31. My middle son used to subscribe to the dittohead's creed

on this subject. And then he became a single father. First of 1 of his children, now of 3. (Mom...me...does NOT fill the gap) Even though I was right here, after the second time he dumped the kids on me with only an hour or 2 notice (hey mom, you aren't doing anything tonight are you?) I refused to help out without 24 hrs. advance REQUEST and payment.

He had been the manager of a convenience store and gave female employees a hard time about either choosing work or their kids. Until he had to face the same problems.

At least I can say that he DID learn his lesson from it...and even apologized to some of those he had been horrible to.

[liberal N proud]

3. Is this bastard married?

As a married man, if I made a comment like that and my wife found out about it.
She would kick my $#%@# so far up my butt that I would never need to think about sex again.
Someone just needs to put these sad examples of human beings out of their misery.
Limpalls is an immoral, racist, sexist scumbag that should not even be classified in the human species.

[LynneSin]

8. He's working on marriage #4 with some CNN news jockey

:eyes:

Actually I think it's #5

[KayLaw]

38. He just can't seem to hold onto a wife

Don't know why not. . .it's the darndest thing.

:eyes:

[Penndems]

5. Easier? What the eff is he talking about?

How the hell would he know? Has he EVER had to work full-time, raise a family, or manage a household?

Maybe if he got off his fat ass and did some REAL work, maybe - MAYBE - he just might learn something and shut his stupid trap.

[plcdude]

6. If we had a real press

this guy and O'flafel would be out of jobs immediately. Doctor shopping and sexual harassment in the work place - how long do you think you would keep your job?

[Greylyn58]

7. You Know

I'd tell this nitwit to buy a clue, but he'd probably just use the money to buy drugs instead.

Makes sense if you think about it because anyone this delusional has to be drugged up.

:grr:

[Stirk]

10. Holy shit- Limbaugh should live to 500 then.

Does anyone have an easier life than a man who gets paid simply to speak into a microphone- never even doing research? I dare say even the morbidly obese and the drug-addicted could handle that level of physical exertion.

Oh wait...

[havocmom]

12. No Rush, that's not it. More males just make poor choices

and engage in more risky behaviors. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and sometimes it's a stroke.

Or maybe nature just doesn't need as many males around for the species to survive? Seems like agressive tendencies take a whomping big toll one way or another.

[Guaranteed]

74. Well, there's that, but mostly it's that males have a tendency

to store their fat in their upper body, around their heart and other organs (causing major health problems), while women tend to store in it in their lower body, safely in their hips and legs.

[One_Life_To_Give]

13. Now we know why he is divorced again. n/t

[CornField]

14. Being such a large, shit-filled asshole must be very demanding work.

Rush is oxi for the unthinking, uncaring, selfish masses.

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[Lars39]

18. Rush is always just 'joking' as he spreads hate

and misinformation, otherwise known as propaganda.

[ultraist]

30. Exactly. He is a filthy pig that spreads hate

[PA Democrat]

22. Yeah and he's "joking" when he refers to women as

"feminazis" if they dare to get too uppity. And he was "joking" when he told a black caller to take "the bone out of your nose."

:eyes:

[Beaverhausen]

32. Oh yeah - that really hilarious. Like calling women Feminazis

I guess that's supposed to be funny, too?

Why does anyone listen to this hypocritical drug addled asshole anymore anyway?

[prolesunited]

33. Oh, if he was only joking, that's OK then

Pardon me, but my favorite soap is on and I have a box of bonbons waiting on the chaise for me. :eyes:

[Bouncy Ball]

63. I'm so glad you explained why you listen to it.

:eyes:

[beyurslf]

16. Anyone wonder why he's is three times married and divorced?

[ragin_acadian]

24. No. Don't have to wonder. n/t

[Bridget Burke]

39. I wonder why he's three times married.

How was he able to find three stupid women? Is the that rich?

The divorces are no surprise at all.

[Tyler Durden]

23. Women live longer as a payback from the universe...

...from men shitting on them their whole lives.

[FizzFuzz]

41. I dunno, seems like we get crapped on even then--what with being prone to

a million non-life threatening diseases that don't kill you but seriously wreck your quality of life.


-Lung Cancer (yes this is life threatening, and number one cancer killer in women, even before breast cancer--* Women who don't smoke appear to be more susceptible to lung cancer than nonsmoking men. Women also tend to get lung cancer at younger ages than men, and they appear to metabolize cancer-causing substances differently than men. )
-menstrual problems such as endometriosis or fibroids
-menopause
-Auto-Immune diseases such as:
-*lupus
-*rheumatoid arthritis
-*scleroderma (rare, but another hellish disease that mostly targets women)
-*Multiple Sclerosis
-fibro-myalgia
-depression
-migraine
-various female-specific cancers
-anemia
-respiratory disease (suprprised me--see www.uspharmacist.com)
-osteoporosis
-constipation
-bladder infections
-anxiety (geeez, why would we be prone to anxiety I wonder?? :eyes: )
-obesity
-diabetes (type II)
-blood vessel spasms (which lead to stroke)
-cardiovascular disease (surprised me, but yes "Old women more prone to heart attack ... Talking about the factors
that make women more vulnerable to heart diseases compared to men." ...
lists.isb.sdnpk.org )
-women who drink more prone to organ damage www.athealth.com/Consumer/disorders/womenalcohol.html
-women who smoke more prone to diseases www.stii.dost.gov.ph/sntpost/NovPostWeb/May2k1/pg5a.htm
-bladder incontinence
-back pain

-Although women live on average six years longer than men, their later years are characterized by disability and illness.
Women are more prone to suffering from Alzheimers, osteoporosis, chronic diseases, falls, vision problems and spend more days in hospital than men. They are also, on average, poorer than men and more vulnerable to inadequate nutrition and to difficulty in accessing uninsured health care such as medications.
Older women are more likely to live alone, with inadequate social and material supports in their aging years. When living with their spouse, they are usually the one providing care if their spouse becomes ill or disabled. http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/women/facts_issues/facts_seniors.htm


great outlook for our golden years.

fuck you Rush.

[FizzFuzz]

25. it's all that sexual harrassment we crave

and get. Keeps all the body systems well oiled.

I just don't understand how anyone can listen to that POS. Especially women...geez seems like CONservative women should be required to wear a "Kick Me" sign. Would save all the trouble and pretense.

[Southsideirish]

26. Probably referring to the type of retro GOP women that he knows.

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. It only gets easier when they divorce your ass, you three time loser.

[datasuspect]

29. who really gives a flying fuck what rush limbaugh says?

just seeing his name is offensive.

[amazona]

40. oh fer cryin' out loud

I could just as well say that women live longer because we have it harder and we don't have as much time to screw off smoking and drinking. Now that men are smoking and drinking less (and women are smoking more) the gap is closing.

Where does the fat ball of lard get off saying women have it easy? There is no scientific evidence that an "easy" life causes anyone to live longer. We are animals, we were meant to experience the range of stress and "flight or fight." Indeed, people who do not exercise (stress) themselves as much are said to die a few months earlier than those who do.

So get off the couch, limpballs!

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[taught_me_patience]

43. I agree to some extent...

work is hard and stressful and, in general, people who work longer will have shorter lives. As more and more women enter the workforce, I belive that we'll see a narrowing of the gap in life expectancy between men and women.

parenting is not nearly as stressful as work.


taught.

[lukasahero]

44. "parenting is not nearly as stressful as work"?

Oh this ought to be fun.

Let me guess - no kids right? Or perhaps a parent who works and has a spouse stay home and "do the parenting"?

[ultraist]

48. No kids is my guess.

He obviously has never taken a sick child to the ER in the middle of the night or experienced the 24-7 of parenting.

[taught_me_patience]

61. lets compare apples to apples...

I'm obviously talking about being a stay-at-home parent vs. working full time. Comparing the stress of taking a sick child to the ER (something that happens very rarely) to working full time is not making a fair comparison.

How about if I said "you've never had to work 18 hour days while preparing for a large deal". Either case is an extreme example (an outlier from the norm as us statisticians would say) and cannot be used in logical arguments of a general nature.

Instead of letting emotions take over the argument, lets actually attempt to "quantify" stress. How much would it cost to hire somebody to take care of your kid 8 hours a day?

From the Wall Street Journal "Nannies cost an average $532 a week for a live-in setup". This equates to $27,664/year.

The average wage, according to the bureau of labor statistics is $36,520 (2003).

If taking care of kids were such a stressful job, why is the pay for those that perform that task is much lower than the national average pay? In general, shouldn't people be paid more if their job was so much more stressful? Shouldn't they be paid more if their job demanded more "skills"?

taught.

[mzmolly]

66. You must be joking?! Just because Nanny's are inadequately paid does not

mean they don't have stress. Further, parenting doesn't end after an 8 hour shift, and Nanny's SHARE the burden of caring for children. They are not the parents.

You Nanny equation only illustrates that low pay in female dominated professions is at issue.

By your standards slavery is not "stressful" because they don't make much.

Regardless, you can't compare being a "Nanny" to being a parent.

[ultraist]

76. Parenting is 24-7, no weekends off and FULL responsibility for the child

I agree. What an absurd and illogical comparison. Furthermore, he/she failed to factor in WHY child care and mothering is so devalued in this society. Apparently, he/she is not very well educated on children's and women's rights.

BTW, I have worked 18 hour days to meet a deadline and it was a LOT less stressful than a parenting emergency.

[taught_me_patience]

77. Not joking. I want to have a logical argument

"mean they don't have stress. Further, parenting doesn't end after an 8 hour shift, and Nanny's SHARE the burden of caring for children. They are not the parents."
--->I'm comparing the stress of a nanny looking after a child for 8 hours vs. a parent looking after a child for 8 hours... very comparable.

"You Nanny equation only illustrates that low pay in female dominated professions is at issue."
---> Agreed it is an issue, but supply and demand determines wages

"By your standards slavery is not "stressful" because they don't make much."
---> Last time I checked, we are living in a free society. Nobody forces you to work or not. In general (by no means all cases) the more responsibility and stress somebody is willing to take on, the better compensated they are for it.

"Regardless, you can't compare being a "Nanny" to being a parent."
---> I am not comparing being a "Nanny" to being a parent. I'm comparing the stress of a nanny caring for kids 8 hours a day to the stress of a parent caring for kids 8 hours a day (very similar).

taught.

[ultraist]

81. Why compare them? Nanny's don't' have full responsibility for the child

You are comparing apples to oranges. Mothers cannot say, fuck it, I'm taking my scheduled day off even though my child needs to go to the doctor or has a school play.

Also, nanny's do not provide for the child. They take their paycheck and walk out of the child's life whenever they feel like it. They aren't concerned with keeping the health insurance payment made, mortgage, clothing, food and all other costs associated with childrearing.

I hope you gain a little more insight to the responsibilities of parenthood before you have children. Nanny's job is not a 24-7 responsibility. There is no comparison.

[mzmolly]

93. Exactly. Nanny's don't care if the kid is "well adjusted" or goes to

college. They have to keep a kid entertained and alive for 8 hours, it's a ridiculous comparison.

[taught_me_patience]

95. i think "overparenting"

is almost as bad as being neglectful.

"They aren't concerned with keeping the health insurance payment made, mortgage, clothing, food and all other costs associated with childrearing."

--->your right they aren't. But those responsibilities fall on BOTH parents.

Put your emotion aside and just compare a nanny caring for a kid for 8 hours vs. a parent caring for a child for 8 hours.

taught.

[ultraist]

102. Overparenting is paying for health insur, housing, food & clothing?

LMAO!!! You are a hoot.

Sorry, but sexism does exist in our society. You are miserably uninformed. Please educate yourself.

Comparing nannies to mothers is absurd and has nothing to do with Rush's claim, "that women have it easier."

[mzmolly]

108. You just said you were raised by a single mother, yet you continually

say that "both" parents are responsible for X?

Emotion aside, your comparison is ridiculous. Someday if/when you have children, if your doing your job correctly ... you'll realize that.

[mzmolly]

90. Wrong again.

Just making sure a kid lives through your 8 hour shift is not the same as parenting a child who you are "wholly" responsible for.

The fact that your comparing a "babysitting" job to parenting speaks for itself.

Babysitters/daycare providers are paid about $3 per hour per child, so I guess parenting is about as easy as selling lemonade? :eyes:

[ultraist]

98. LOL! Gotta love that fuzzy logic!

I have yet to hear Rush's claim logically supported. It seems some turn to diversion tactics (Nannies vs mothers) when they cannot support their opinions.

Amazing that people believe Rush on anything, particularly this: Sexism doesn't exist in our society. Women have it easier than men. Women are privileged, get the best jobs, get paid more for the same work, don't encounter glass ceilings...

[taught_me_patience]

104. this is my last post on this subject...

Tell my why this is, then. When someone retires at the age of 65, their life expectancy is only an average of 5 more years? Yet when someone retires at the age of 50, their average life expectancy is 40 more years? Work is stressful and it takes years off peoples lives. There is undeniable evidence for this.

I hate Rush and disagree with almost everything he says. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I belive:
sexism is rampant in society
racism is rampant in society
women have it more difficult than men
women are not priveleged
women do not get the best jobs nor are the promoted as fast as men
they do encounter glass celings.

all these problems are travesties.

taught.

[mzmolly]

107. I'd like to see the links/evidence before I comment.

:hi:

[ultraist]

109. What does your claim that work is stresful have to do with Rush's remark

that "women have it easier."

First it was comparing nannies to mothers and now you are stating work is stressful. There is a huge disconnect between your arguments and supporting Rush's delusional statement.

Whether or not work is stressful is an entirely different discussion. You are not making another false assumption that women don't work, are you? Even if you are, that still does not prove Rush's sexist remark.

[NC_Nurse]

71. Childcare is paid low wages because it is

traditionally a female position, just like nursing or teaching. Traditional female roles have always gotten less money and less respect than the male roles.

Staying home with children full time is hard work with no paycheck, and often no support or appreciation from others. I did it when my kids were little because I WANTED to, not because it was easy.

Now I'm a nurse, another tough job that is underpaid and underappreciated. I prefer to do something MEANINGFUL and worthwhile. I suppose I could make a lot more money sitting on my ass telling other people what they should think. :puke:

[lukasahero]

45. darn slow computer double post eom

[CornField]

47. Obviously you were not blessed with my children

When it comes to stress... my children have all career choices (save maybe axe murderer) looking almost relaxing.

[knitter4democracy]

116. Same here!

I'm a SAHM, and let me tell ya, my job is freakin' stressful. How many times do you find yourself repeating things? My average is three. I mean, everything that comes out of your mouth. How often do you clean up pee and poop--my average per day is five times. How often do you clean something up, answer the phone, clean something up, fix the computer, clean something up, break up a fight, and get dinner ready? That's just the last hour's worth of work--oh, and I had to do all of that twice in just the last hour.

Simple tactic: divide and conquer. Get the working mothers against the stay-at-home moms; get the professional women against all other working women; get the women against the men. My question is, who wins at the end of the day? If we're all fighting each other, it sounds like Rush won.

[Sparkly]

51. Parenting isn't work?!?

Of course it's stressful. And unfortunately, even women who work outside the home whether part-time or full-time usually get the burden of the "second shift" (housework and childcare). Moreover, more single women than men have physical custody of children.

So yes, it's work and it's stressful, and I think what women do is generally way underappreciated.

[taught_me_patience]

64. I'm not saying parenting

isn't work, isn't stressful, or isn't important. I'm just saying that its not as stressful as a 9-6 (or in my case 9-8 thanks to * and america's economy).

my mother was a single parent and a small business owner. How she managed both is incomprehensible to me. Although she does say that her work was much more stressful than taking care of me.

taught.

[sonicx]

65. yes, and that proves Rush is full of crap...

Women don't have easy lives.

[mzmolly]

67. Your Mom is not representative of most Mothers I know.

I don't know ONE mother who would say that parenting isn't harder than ANY 9-5 or 9-8 "job."

You can love being a parent, and realize it's the most challenging thing you'll ever do.

[walldude]

73. I have to agree

I'm a father of 3 boys and the stress at home is 10 times higher than at my job. Not that thats a bad thing, it's just a way of life. Unless your job includes some kind of life or death situtation then I doubt it's as stressful as raising kids.

I wonder what Rush's mom thinks of all this?

Also for those who think he's just joking, or just getting a rise out of liberals, I have news for you, Rush's hardcore audience consider him a news source. You know, the "liberal dominated media" doesn't give out real news so they have to get the "truth" from Rush.

[mzmolly]

84. Thank you sir!

:toast:

[taught_me_patience]

79. the thing is...

is that BOTH parents are responsible once work is over.

taught.

[mzmolly]

82. Your grasping at straws here.

:eyes:

[Iris]

94. Right. Most mothers you know. Do you know all the mothers in the world?

n/t

[mzmolly]

105. Sorry, did you take me off ignore already? I said "most mothers I know"

now tell me how that equates to "all the mothers of the world?" Even people with poor comprehension skills should be able to see the difference in the two statements.

Are you bitter because you don't have children, or because you felt your job was over when you "squeezed them out" and thus you suck at it?

Also share why you've chosen to single me out among all the folks that agree with me here?

Perhaps you can take your anti-mothering crusade somewhere else ey?

For the record: Google has about 845,000 articles that assert that "parenting is the most difficult (yet rewarding) job there is."

http://www.google.com.ar/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2004-45,RNWE:en&q=parenting+most+difficult+job

So you see, it's not MY opinion alone. In fact, many psycological community say the same thing???

"It has been said that parenting is the most difficult job, and the most important responsibility, you will ever have in your life."

http://www.psychologyinfo.com/treatment/parenting_skills.html

[ultraist]

78. So, you don't have kids, that explains it,

You also, obviously are not well educated on woman's rights and children's rights and their value in our society. This did not enter your "Apples to apples" equation which was actually apples to oranges.

The fact that you assumed that nannies are paid well and that being a full time mother is equivalent to being a 40 hour a week nanny, pretty much says it all.

[Pithlet]

132. I worked for many years

before I had kids. I can tell you that parenting has been far more stressful. That is just my personal experience. Not that work isn't stressful. I do believe that certain types of work can be just as stressful as parenting. I think that commenting on how stressful a job is when one has never worked that type of job is illogical.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

53. I 'work' and I've raised a child

I've worked at a newspaper in production, deadlines and stress galore. I've worked in sales, "make your quota or your outta here". I currently own a small business and am responsible for keeping food on several peoples tables. Yes, my "work" history has been riddled with stress.

I can say I've never felt more stress or responsibility than that from my job as a parent. If a jacked up a regular job it's bad, if I jacked up as a mother my child could have died or grew up to be a <shudder> republican! Now that's stress for you.

[ultraist]

88. I agree, having someone's life depend on you is far different than a job

I agree, we own our business which can be very stressful.

But both my husband and I agree, that parenting is by FAR the most important job we have, it carries the MOST responsibility and stress. It's up to us to not only ensure our kids' basic needs are met, but that they are well prepared for the world.

[Lorien]

121. Oh, bullshit

my best friend puts her kids in daycare three days a week so she can go back to work part time as a city planner (which is a fairly demanding job). The reason? Parenting is a hundred times more exhausting than being a city planner!

Two hours alone with her kids, and I'm more burned out than I was after a 14 hour day as a production manager for an animation studio working on a picture that came to us behind schedule and badly underfunded!

[Shakespeare]

125. Thank you for flying DemocraticUnderground.com

Enjoy your stay....

[taught_me_patience]

127. what are you talking about? n/t

[Roland99]

50. Simple...it's part of the GOP mindset now. Luntz even wrote of it!

Strict Father: In the conservative worldview, it's assumed that the world is, and always will be, a dangerous and difficult place. It is a competitive world and there will always be winners and losers. Children are naturally bad since they want to do what feels good, not what is moral, so they have to be made good by being taught discipline. There is tangible evil in the world and to stand up to evil, one must be morally strong, or “disciplined."

In the 'Strict Father' family, the father's job is to protect and support the family. Children are to respect and obey him. The father's moral duty is to teach his children right from wrong, with punishment that is typically physical and can be painful when they do wrong. It is assumed that parental discipline in childhood is required to develop the internal discipline that adults will need in order to be moral and to succeed. Morality and success are linked through discipline. This focus on discipline is seen as a form of love -- "tough love."

The mother is in the background, not strong enough to protect and support the family or fully discipline the children on her own. Her job is to uphold the authority of the father and to care for and comfort the children. As a "mommy," she tends to be overly soft-hearted and might well coddle or spoil the child. The father must make sure this does not happen, lest the children become weak and dependent.

Competition is necessary for discipline. Children are to become self-reliant through discipline and the pursuit of self-interest. Those who succeed as adults are the good (moral) people and parents are not to "meddle" in their lives. Those children who remain dependent--who were spoiled, overly willful, or recalcitrant--undergo further discipline or are turned out to face the discipline of the outside world.

When everyone is acting morally and responsibly, seeking their own self-interest in a self-disciplined fashion, everyone benefits. Thus, instilling morality and discipline in your children is also acting for the good of society as a whole.

[ultraist]

92. excellent post! a regression to the fifties is what we are seeing!

It all fits in so nicely with the fundie concept, doesn't it?

[Corgigal]

119. As a "mommy"

soft-hearted and unable to "protect" myself, I would love to give Luntz a blankie party and kick his ass.

Mothers are always the defenders of the children. Watch animal planet some day, jerk.

[Lorien]

124. 'The female of the species is far more dangerous than the male"

written by Rudyard Kipling as a warning to those who would walk among tigers...

[mzmolly]

139. OMG

:puke:

[northzax]

52. well, in a way, he's right

but the fact is that once you get to 30, women and men live just as long. Same thing with Blacks and Whites. it's just that men, and specifically black men, are much more likely to die by the age of 30. That fucks with the numbers big time.

Women certainly do not assume as many of the day to day risks that men choose to, especially at a young age. Most industral accidents invole men. Most supremely dangerous jobs are overwhelmingly male (front line military, oil rigs, mining, construction) Men are more likely to be killed in automobile accidents or from gun violence (especailly from a stranger) men are more likely to end up in maximum security prisons or juvenile facilities. Men are also more likely, although the gap is closing, to smoke, drink heavily, or experiment with other illegal drugs.

does that mean women's lives are 'easier'? in a way, yes. Fewere women have the societal pressure to put themselves in more dangerous situations. Because of societal pressure, there are fewer women who work in immediatly dangerous occupations. (go to a 7-11 at 3 am, it is almost always a man behind the counter.) call the sops, it is more likely than not that a man will come in the guise of a police officer or fire fighter.

Certainly, there are different day to day stresses on both sexes, and certainly women face forms of violence and death that men are rarely, if ever, going to face (sexual assault by a stranger, domestic vioence) and there are different diseases that affect men and women in different ways.

Nonoe of this is to diminish women in any way, or claim that men are 'superiour' to women, which is fallacious at the best, but you have to face the numbers that women, especially white women, are more likely to make it to the age of 30 than men, especially black men. That skews the numbers.

[mzmolly]

56. Nice try, not buyin it.

:hi:

Rush didn't address the "black male" issue. He made a blanket statement that women have easier lives, he's full of shit.

[northzax]

60. it actually sounded to me like a joke

making fun of a government statistic. but people were taking it so seriously I thought I'd throw some data into the pile.

[Iris]

123. Do not try to joke with the holy mothers. n/t

[mzmolly]

133. I thought you ignored me, how on earth do you know who he was "joking"

with?

Hmmm, an asshole and full of shit, go figure.

[Pithlet]

Why are you so angry?

Seems like you really enjoy painting a whole group of people in a certain way.

[Iris]

140. Just a whole group of people who enjoy painting themselves

in a certain way.

[mzmolly]

142. Paint themselves as what ???

:shrug:

I simply don't underestimate the job of Mothering and/or equate it to a bowel movement. Does that make me and others like me, "bad" in the eyes of Limbaugh listners?

[mzmolly]

143. Indeed the word "angry" does come to mind.

:shrug:

[ultraist]

103. LMAO! "Sexism and violence against women are not a social problems"

Shall we also agree with Rush that racism and homophobia don't exist too?

[Lady Effingbroke]

54. May he be reincarnated as a poor, single mother with many children.

:mad:

[ComerPerro]

57. And, women who listen to his show have no problem with this

I bet.

"Yeah, that's right, Rush! We are lazy!"

[jdj]

59. man, this is weak for him.

he must be high again.

[Bouncy Ball]

62. What government statistic?

And also, it's not clear whether he means that the government statistic is about men's life expentancies or women's lives being "easier."

How can anyone make that generalization?

I don't think your life being easy or hard has as much to do with gender as we think. Sure women are still at a disadvantage (less than in the past), but that doesn't mean either gender can't have a very easy or hard life.

And isn't that a subjective term?

There I go applying logic and critical thinking to something limpballs said. Everytime I do that, his words just dissolve like cotton candy in the rain.

[Spinoza]

68. Does anyone know

why do women live longer than men on average?

[Quixote1818]

80. Here is an article

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/10.01/WhyWomenLiveLon.html

[ryan_cats]

69. Is that Rush talking

Is that Rush talking or the Oxycontin or both? We know it's what he believes, I don't think his ex-wives had it easy hee hee.

[KansDem]

70. Isn't this guy in jail yet?

I mean, isn't he a druggie? Wasn't he arrested after police found tons of illegal drugs in the trunk of his car?

What's up with that whole case, anyway?

[Warren DeMontague]

118. No. If he had been a longhair driving a VW bus with dead stickers

through texas and they had found a pot seed, he'd be long gone.

Of course, being a GOP Hypocrite means never having to abide by the rules you set for everyone else. Bastard has spent countless hours promulgating a "lock 'em up" approach to non-violent drug offenses.. except his own, of course-- when he needs "compassion" and "sympathy".

[yellowcanine]

72. Ha - Women live longer than men because they take better care of

their health, don't engage in as much risky behavior, smoke less - and actually, believe it or not, are stronger to start with. (Boy babies have a higher death rate than girl babies). As usual, Limpballs has no idea what he is talking about.

[Guaranteed]

75. That baby thing is true.

But it's also the case that the gap is closing, because women AREN'T taking good care of themselves.

[Quixote1818]

85. Here is an article about all the factors

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/10.01/WhyWomenLiveLon.html

[alarimer]

89. No his ex-wives lives are easier

Now that he isn't in their lives! He made the mistake of extrapolating. Of course anyone who isn't married to Limbaugh has an easier life than one who is.

[spanone]

100. He's the worse combination. An arrogant dumb ass. Who thinks he's smart.

[Warren DeMontague]

106. Yeah. And some people's life expectancy wouldn't be affected

by the fact that they are a fat, stupid turd addicted to pain meds, of course.

Addendum: I notice that the poster felt the need to call Rush "Limpballs". Another referred to him as a "dick". Please, WE as good obedient liberals need to be above these horrible gender-based slurs which oppress men by reducing them to their sex organs.

And yeah, I'm totally fucking kidding.

[ultraist]

113. LOL!!! Ok, no more limpballs or limpdick. He's a racist, sexist, homophobe

[Deja Q]

110. I hope his wife divorces the sack of lard and gets big alimony! Why? Heh,

The cost of electricity and bleach to clean that tarp known as his boxer shorts must be an enormous chore all by itself... never mind having to feed him, Lord knows how... :scared:

[KamaAina]

112. Either that, or they take less Oxy

Rush: the OxyMoran.

[Lorien]

117. Here's a few reasons why women live longer than men:

"Gee, guys... that seems like an awful lot of protective gear
for such a small chlorine gas leak..."

[Lone_Star_Dem]

120. Ahhh, that explains it!

Good one! :thumbsup:

[ultraist]

134. It's true, men do engage in more reckless and violent behaviors

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/10.01/WhyWomenLiveLon.html

The mortality gap varies during other stages of life. Between ages 15 and 24 years, men are four to five times more likely to die than women. This time frame coincides with the onset of puberty and an increase in reckless and violent behavior in males. Researchers refer to it as a "testosterone storm." Most deaths in this male group come from motor vehicle accidents, followed by homicide, suicide, cancer, and drownings.

One contributor to the gender difference in life span is the influence of sex hormones. The male hormone testosterone not only increases aggressive and competitive behavior in young men, it increases levels of harmful cholesterol (low-density lipoprotein), raising a male's chances of getting heart disease or stroke.


Perls and Fretts believe that longer life means survival of the fittest, and women, evolutionarily speaking, are more fit than men. The longer a woman lives and the more slowly she ages, the more offspring she can produce and rear to adulthood. Therefore, evolution would naturally select the genes of such women over those who die young.

[all.of.me]

130. what an asshole!

i guess he's not a single mom with a teen and a preteen and very little child support. my ex's life is a LOT easier than mine!!

god, what a jerk..... what crap he disseminates to the masses.....

[Johonny]

144. Why do men die before their wives?

They want to.

[mvd]

145. Locking

Topic has too many personal attacks. Limbaugh's not worth it.

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