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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:40 PM
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"Houses of Worship FREE SPEECH Restoration Act of 2005"
Free speech! Worship! Restoration! It all sounds so, so GOOD! :eyes:



The Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act of 2005 amends the Internal Revenue Code to protect churches from losing their tax-exempt status because of the content, preparation, or presentation of any homily, sermon, teaching, dialectic, or other presentation made during religious services or gatherings. Congressman Jones’ (R-NC) bill will permit church leaders to express personal views on political matters or elections during regular religious services without violating campaign finance laws, as long as such views are not disseminated beyond the members and guests assembled at such services.

Congressman Jones’ bill will permit church leaders to express personal views on political matters or elections during regular religious services without violating campaign finance laws, as long as such views are not disseminated beyond the members and guests assembled at such services.

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Surprise! Endorsed by the Christian Coalition:

http://www.cc.org/content.cfm?id=186
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:43 PM
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1. Poor little persecuted Christians
God, when will their torment end?
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:45 PM
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4. Their torment will end when everyone is either Rapturized or converted.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:14 PM
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8. please let the rapture happen soon.
can't wait to be rid of these assholes.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:44 PM
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2. The Churches will be bought off by faith based "Charity" and Nazification
will be complete! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:45 PM
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3. We need a "Defense of Faith Act" that affirms freedom of all religions...
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 05:47 PM by ClassWarrior
...and the Separation of Church and State.

Christian Collision - stick that in your George Lakoff and smoke it!!

NGU.


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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:15 PM
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9. I think it's called the constitution, establishment clause
but that apparently isn't good enough anymore.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:50 PM
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5. They have the absolute right to express their personal views on
political matters or elections, but not to do it tax-free!
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:07 PM
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6. Mistaken Identity

A man was being tailgated by a stressed-out woman on a busy boulevard. Suddenly the light turned yellow. Just in front him was a crosswalk, so he did the right thing--he stopped at the crosswalk even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.

The tailgating woman hit the roof and the horn. She screamed because she had missed her chance to get through the intersection. As she was still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window. She looked up into the face of a very serious police officer. The officer ordered her to exit her car with her hands up. He took her to the police station where she was searched, fingerprinted, photographed, and placed in a cell.

After a couple of hours, however, a policeman approached the cell door and opened it. He escorted her back to the booking desk where the arresting officer was waiting with her personal effects. As he handed her possessions to her, he said, "I'm very sorry for this mistake. You see, I pulled up behind your car while you were blowing your horn, flipping off the guy in front of you, and cussing a blue streak at him. I noted your "Choose Life" license plate holder, the "What Would Jesus Do" bumper sticker, the "Follow Me to Sunday School" bumper sticker and the chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk.

Naturally, I assumed you were driving a stolen car."


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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:19 PM
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11. That rules!
::laughs:: Very illustrative.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:12 PM
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7. The world would be such a better place without these
self-centered, myth-believing, bush-worshipping idiots.

But I'd settle for them leaving the USA...or relocating all of us non-believers to Europe on the gov dime.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:15 PM
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10. WIll somebody take that trash away from the post. The picture is grotesque
If that passes, our country is then lost.

I'd say, make the churches PAY TAXES like everyone else and then let them spout all the political nonsense they want.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:29 PM
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12. So, the churches apparently know that what they are doing is wrong
And that must by why they are trying to get this through.

Tax free ways to tell people that God and Jesus hate Democrats!

And, soon, they will be getting taxpayer money to support this too!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:37 PM
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13. Indeed. Why do they need legislation all of a sudden?
Could it be because Bush used church after church in his reselection bid?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:52 PM
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14. This may be the answer, posted
on another thread by Rose Siding:

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1279535

Pulpit tax issue is seen as way to marriage bill -The Hill

Social conservatives, frustrated by the lack of movement on a marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution, are shifting their focus to passing legislation this year that would allow religious leaders to endorse political candidates from the pulpit.

Proponents of legislation sponsored by Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) say it is a step on the long journey to collecting enough support to pass a constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Jim Backlin, vice president of legislative affairs for the Christian Coalition, said passing the Jones bill would enable religious leaders to endorse candidates who support a federal marriage amendment. Down the line, Backlin said, more candidates who support a constitutional amendment would be elected to Congress. Backlin will meet House and Senate Republican leaders this month and plans to stress the importance of the Jones bill.
...
Jones will appear with black ministers at a press conference today to rally support for his bill. The Rev. Walter Fauntroy, a former chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, is scheduled to speak out for the Jones measure. The Rev. Anthony Muse, a Democrat and senior pastor of the Ark of Safety Christian Church in Maryland, will also praise the bill today. They are expected to invoke the words of Martin Luther King Jr. to make their case for passing the Jones measure.

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Fron...
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:57 PM
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15. Is this for real? eom
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:04 PM
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17. Yes nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:01 PM
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16. Why don't they all just climb up on the fucking cross already?
Show some real dedication....

Poor put upon persecuted piss ants.
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OTownGuy Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:07 PM
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18. Exactly...
Lets get some damne crosses and get it OVER w/!!!
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