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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 09:59 AM
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Gannon/Guckert 100% Gosch (says Tim White)
I have no idea who Tim White is, but here is his statement:

Last evening, I received a call from Ted Gunderson who is presently in Nebraska to interview a central figure in the Franklin Coverup case that is at the root of this "Jeff Gannon" story.

A confidential source of Ted's has - in a conversation with Ted yesterday afternoon - given a 100% confirmation that Jeff Gannon/Jim Guckert is very definitely Johnny Gosch.

Ted has the full backing and authority of the mother of Johnny, Noreen Gosch, to handle this - as only Ted would know how - along with the complete assistance of John DeCamp.

Ted and John DeCamp are the investigators and exposers of the Franklin Coverup. Ted has given me the greenlight to write and post this much so far but for very obvious reasons, I cannot go into greater detail at this time. As I have been told, more information will soon be forthcoming with the authorization to post when I receive it.

http://www.rense.com/general63/100.htm
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:02 AM
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1. Bad News:
Ted Gunderson, in spite of his credentials as a "Former FBI Agent" is not a great source for this stuff.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:28 AM
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13. Which is why I want the confirmation to come from Noreen Gosch & DNA
And if its in fact proven, then yes, this is very big news indeed and will blow the story of something even bigger wide open....

But, I wait for the confirmation from reliable sources....
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Nightwing Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:03 AM
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2. What is the "Franklin Cover up"?
I'm completely unaware of what that is and what is going on. I do understand the Gannon/Guckert thing and just wish the MSM would dive into this scandal with the same zealousness they used during the Lewinsky affair.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:07 AM
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6. I found this-it is the child sex ring dating back to Reagan/Poppa Bush
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:16 AM
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10. There's been a huuuuge post on this subject, starting a week ago
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 10:16 AM by Old and In the Way
Here's one, that's backtrack into 8 other threads....there's an amazing set of pictures superimposing Gannon/Guckert onto the Gosch pic....it sure is interesting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3225014
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yebrent Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 11:22 AM
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17. Check out the Ted Gunderson report.

http://www.johnnygosch.com/gunderson_report.html


I'm not ready to believe or write off this Gannon/Gosch information. If it is true, it would mean that Gannon/Guckert/Gosch set all this up with the expectations of being caught, with the purpose of bringing down a lot of sick bastards. Talk about your revenge plots.

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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:04 AM
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3. If this is confirmed by Johnny Gosch's Mom Noreen & evidence to this fact
brought out in the open, this is huge....

As I've said in posts before, I hope that Gannon/Guckert (or is it Guckert/Gannon?) better have good protection and keep himself and his family safe....and I don't say that because he's in danger from "Liberal Bloggers" but rather the folks that would have been involved in Gosch's disappearance and the same people that let him in to the White House for the last 2 years.....

:scared:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:06 AM
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4. How is Gosch any more relevant than Guckert?
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 10:07 AM by robbedvoter
And why should I believe anything from rense?
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:09 AM
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8. I didn't say it was true or false
Posted as an FYI
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:23 AM
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12. You obviously haven't been following the "Wrinkle" threads.
Which have wandered all over the place, but basically:

If Gannon/Guckert is Johnny Gosch, it means there is a direct connection to the "Franklin Cover-Up" of the early '90's.

Franklin was a massive S&L scandal that involved child kidnapping, pedophilia, prostitution, and drugs. Eyewitness reports by victims take it all the way to the top levels of government. There is more than adequate evidence that this was covered up by the CIA, FBI, and Justice.

If DeCamp et al. can prove that a boy kidnapped in Des Moines by this Franklin ring in the '80's is Guckert/Gannon it means that the program of mind control and blackmail is still going on today, sanctioned by Buschco.

It could be the thread that unravels their whole sordid cabal.

Pull a corner of this vast, seamless web, and the whole begins to unravel.-"The Franklin Cover-Up" John DeCamp pg.228.

-I've only hit a few basics here, if you feel like spending a few days of your life finding out more, read that book and skim the "Wrinkle" threads. Also, you can find on-line, "Conspiracy of Silence" a Yorkshire (England) production that was mysteriously pulled days before it was scheduled to air on US cable TV, and all copies destroyed. (The copy that exists is a rough-cut sent to DeCamp anonymously.)




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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 11:52 AM
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21. Johnny Gosch was a paper boy who delivered for the Des Mines Register. He
was kidnapped and his mother insists he was kidnapped by the Franklin sex ring. At the time of his kidnapping, the police AND the Des Moines Rester were doing everything in their power to disparage Mrs. Gosch and her investigation. WHY would they do that? The editor of the Des Moines Register, at the time of Johnny Gosch's kidnapping, was a man named JAMES GANNON. Coincidence? :shrug:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:07 AM
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5. Well that settles it
Gannon is NOT Johnny Gosch and is not connected to the Franklin thing in any way shape or form.

Since Rense is the source of this, that's the safest assumption, anyway.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:15 AM
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9. Rense is like the dump.
99% of it is garbage -- not just regular trash, but old rotten stinking garbage.

But once in a while there are interesting goodies.

Consider the source... but don't dismiss news merely because of the source.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:55 AM
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16. I dismiss anything on Rense out of hand
because it is almost like a disinformation site for the tinfoilhatters!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 11:38 AM
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18. Well, dumpster-diving is not for everyone...
;-)
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:34 AM
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14. Rense is not the source
It was discussed on DU before it was on Rense.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 11:43 AM
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19. Yes, but it ended up on Rense, which is where most internet garbage ends
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 11:54 AM
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22. Yep, generally you know if it has ended up on Resne
It's crap that has no basis in reality and you can safely dismiss it as such.

:D
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:08 AM
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7. Here's a google of Tim White
Tim White Postings

By Ken Adachi <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
http://educate-yourself.org/tw/index.shtml
September 17, 2004

I originally met Tim White (phantom469366@yahoo.com) over the internet because of my association with Ted Gunderson. Tim came to Ted's defense over the internet on numerous occasions against government mind controlled disinformation agents and slanderers with names like Barbara Hartwell and Stew Webb. Working from a library computer, Tim has the habit of picking out the most cogent and germane articles for re posting to other web sites and some sixty odd chat groups.

Tim sends out so many 'on target' articles to his daily list, that I decided to devote a special page exclusively to his chosen material and commentaries. I've grouped one series of Tim's postings under the heading of "The Planned Destruction of America" because that's what Tim's posting make crystal clear: we are being betrayed by our own government and that betrayal is about as in-your-face as it can possibly get, yet the public walks around as if in a sleepwalk, allowing the media ministry to keep them mesmerized with sin, sex, and TV survival sensationalism, followed up by a morbid preoccupation with sports. The Roman emperor Nero called that sort of calculated diversion "Bread & Circus". Today, it's hot dogs and baseball.

List of his postings here:
http://educate-yourself.org/tw/index.shtml
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:21 AM
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11. The sources are not reliable
You might want to take a look at Cannonfire, who deconstructs the reliability of the sources for the "G/G 100% Gosch" would-be story. This is not to say I believe that G/G cannot be Gosch; just that I don't think this proves it. Cannofire writes:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/

I now feel confident that Jim Guckert is NOT Johnny Gosch. And how do I know? Because Ted Gunderson, the FBI's answer to Maxwell Smart, says he is.

I know Gunderson of old. The man is, in his way, 100% reliable: If Ted says the sky is blue, you can bet the rent money that the sky has changed to some other color.

Another conspiracist pushing the Gosch/Guckert line is -- but of course! -- Sherman Skolnick. Does he have proof? ...

<snip>

Skolnick is perhaps best known for his outrageous attempt to pin the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing on the Japanese. I, however, will always hold a special fondness for his series of 1992 reports that a "group of generals" were "on their way to Washington to arrest George Bush for treason" -- a word Skolnick tends to pronounce "TREEEEEEEE-zunnn." These stories continued week after week, yet the generals somehow never reached the nation's capitol; they remained forever "on their way."
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:39 AM
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15. I know where the Wild Goose goes, Mother Goose, Brother Goose
which he best?

A wild goose chase at its best!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 11:51 AM
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20. In the larger context it is good to talk about child sex and slavery rings
in the United States of America and how these networks were developed within the structures meant to support children and youths from trouble.

It is organized, folks. I saw how some of it works in 1969. You can take that to the bank. Corruption is that extensive. Kids are like produce to these monsters.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 12:02 PM
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23. Bada-BING!
Yo Boyfriend, Dey donwanna HEAR 'bout that... :loveya: :toast:
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