Freeper Beatdown At Work...Priceless!

[Mad_Dem_X]

I just had to share this: Today I was in the work lunchroom, and overheard a conversation from the next office. Three co-workers were arguing politics with another co-worker who is a die-hard rethug (I've argued with this guy a few times in the past). At first the guy was getting all beligerant (sp?) and shouting, but the other three held their ground and gave as good as they got. It ended with one of the anti-Bush guys saying, "WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION???" as the Freeper dashed out of the room.

I wish I could describe it better, but it was so refreshing to see (and hear) this blowhard get outnumbered and not able to answer their questions. :bounce:

(Edited for spelling.)

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

1. Only those suffering from an incurable form of denial haven't figured out

that we've lost America.

Those that feel there's nothing left to lose by exasperating over those at work who are too dense to know need an outlet. It may as well be the nearest asshole who got us into this fix.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

2. All a symptom of poor educational standards and lack of critical thinking

I'm firmly convinced that the Rethugiation of America is a symptom of poor educational standards, lack of critical thinking, and declining reading behavior.

The more educated the populace...the harder they are to control.

JB

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Yes

I think that's why Bush isn't funding fully NCLB and why the right-wingers want all the faith-based programs and to blame everything on "Satan" and not face reality.

[Swamp Rat]

12. igzakly! n/t

:D

[Arkana]

19. Pronounce it right--it's "Ed Zachary!"

DUH! :P

[Swamp Rat]

24. "... rike your ass."

:P

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

34. Or, as "Eggs Actly" - homage to a R.Crumb character... n/t

JB

[CrispyQ]

25. I agree completely!

The dumbing down of America has been a boon for the rethugs. People are happy to believe the spoon fed drivel the corporate media feeds them. Another thing I wonder at is the mass conformity. We claim to value individuality, yet we really don't. Individuals are allowed a modicum of deviation from the norm, but you’d better fall in line with the fundamental beliefs.

Here at DU was the first time I heard the term sheeple. I LMAO at how appropriate & clever the term is!

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

33. Religion is a homogenizing societal force.

Mass conformity is a byproduct of a shared belief system that dictates that any deviation from the norm is a "sin" and unwanted.

A plurality of religious thought (at least in the past) has kept things relatively managable, but now the problem seems to be the Baptistification of America.

The Xtian drones are beginning to chirp in harmony...which scares the shit out of me.

JB

[AValdoux]

3. My husband's barn encounter

My husband was welding on our boat dock project this weekend in our barn with two of his redneck friends. One of them brought up something hateful about gays. My husband said what's the big deal, it don't effect your life. My husband then asked him in a child custody case would you side with a gay couple with a stable life or an abusive drug addict. The guy actually said after a few seconds, the drug addict. The other guy looked disgusted at the gay hater. He sided with my husband.

My husband then asked them what they thought Gannon/Guckert. They hadn't heard anything about it. He proceeded to tell them the whole sordid story. It ended all political discussion. I was so proud of him. He's always amazed by the stories I tell him that don't make the MSM.

AValdoux

[stanwyck]

5. You nailed the problem

"they hadn't heard anything about it". That's symptomatic of the right. They are only paying attention to what they're spoon fed by hate-radio. And that ain't Gannon/Guckert or "rendition". I fight the right by talking over their heads. Keep bringing up legitimate news stories. Name your sources. Make them realize how far below your league they are. Maybe they'll ramp up.

[RetroLounge]

41. Great story, and welcome to DU!

:hi:

RL

[izzybeans]

4. "as the Freeper dashed out of the room"

That's the most telling part of the scene. His face was beet red, I'm guessing.

I get the sense that the (monty) Python's were on their stick horses yelling "Run away, Run away!" in this freeper's head. "That castle has armaments of truth in it, I'm getting the f#$k out of here." <clipity clop, clipity clop>. "I'm one freeptard that won't flippity flop."

[KurtNYC]

8. Brave Freep Robin...

Brave freep Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave freep Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

[Swamp Rat]

14. And when they begin to lose the debate: "Help, Help, I'm being oppressed!"

[Sweet Freedom]

6. I have a co-worker

who hates Clinton. I always wondered why. Then one day, the co-worker let loose about Clinton's blowjob.

Now, I must mention that I had once walked in on this (married) co-worker receiving a bj in the office from another co-worker. (Why me???!!)

Somewhere in the middle of his rant, he must have had a flashback to our unfortunate encounter. He voice trailed off and he walked away. :7

(I went into my office and laughed my ass off.)

[Jacobin]

9. That's FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love it!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

13. LOL

That's a funny story. ;) He doth protest too much.

[bleedingheart]

16. ah the hypocrisy of the right...

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. OMG! That is PRICELESS!

Have they no shame??? The man HIMSELF had cheated on his wife and he has the damn nerve to rail against Clinton????$%#@#$%

[stanwyck]

28. usually the guys who hate Clinton

are the ones who aren't getting any BJs. And they really resent anyone else who is. (and those lucky guys are usually liberals. Ah, the unfairness).

[hvn_nbr_2]

36. A raised eyebrow, a smile, and "Oohhhh....?" would have been priceless.

[Maestro]

7. Well I had a run-in with a fundie today

God those people are so hard to deal with because you can't talk to them. The Bible is right no matter what. I am wrong for wanting to teach evolution and she is right for not wanting it because it is not what God wants. I told her to take her damn kids out of school and homeschool them because they will not get what she wants them to get here in PUBLIC schools.

[FreedomAngel82]

18. I know what you mean

On this Christian board I go on sometimes political issues pop up. I'm the "bleeding heart liberal" on there even though we share the same faith. Gay marriage is on this board at least in two different threads. I asked what purpose would it be not to have gay marriage WITHOUT using the Bible because not everybody believes like they do. Some people said how they had to follow God before man and things like that. One person did make a statement without using the Bible but then I brought up Canada since they have gay marriage rights and have yet to hear from the person. I'll have to check later this evening. If the parent you're talking about Maestro doesn't like public school why doesn't she go to a private Christian school? We have one around here that basically 80-95% of all the kids at my church attend. Anybody can go there and they take both regular classes like a public school but also are required to take Biblical classes. There's also private education and homeschooling. You should've asked her why her kid was in public school. This one board I used to go on this one right-winger HATED public school and was bragging about how she was so glad she never went to it. I took that as an insult because of how I've gone to public education my whole schooling life (I go to a community college now) and majority of my friends in school were all very brilliant in their studies and how one of my friends is even now doing engineering and is going to a well known school in Alabama.

[Maestro]

46. Sounds like you know to what I refer

I have been fighting irrational and intransigent fundies for quite some time. It all came to a head the day after the elections. Good luck with your debating. I hope you don't get as frustrated as I do. In the meantime, here is my diatribe that turned overtly political even though there are definite religious overtones.

My religious diatribe

[gratuitous]

20. Nah, they're real easy to deal with

But you have to know your Bible. I have found that fundies have a comfort zone of Bible verses, but with a little creativity and a good working knowledge of the Bible, you can knock them out of that comfort zone. In my experience, once you show the multiplicity of viewpoints in the Bible, you quickly get fundies to admit that theirs is merely one interpretation, and that the Bible supports more than one point of view. Once that's done, you get out of the "the Bible tells me so" non-argument and on to more productive areas of discussion.

The creation story is just one area: Genesis starts off with two separate and distinct creation stories. The first is the "God created the world in six days and on the seventh rested" story. The second is the story of Adam and Eve. Even the most casual reader will note that in the six days creation story, the creative power is called "God." In the Adam and Eve story, the creative power is "the Lord God" (in small caps), denoting the Hebrew tetragrammation for the name of God, rather than the generic name "God" for the deity.

The simple question of why that should be -- two separate, distinct creation stories in the Bible -- will usually draw your fundy friend out of his or her comfort zone. You will either be rid of him or her forever after, or meaningful productive discussion will ensue.

[Clark2008]

26. I do this all the time.

I've read the Bible, in full, about five times and am working on my sixth reading it to my son.
I'm pretty astute in the verses, but what I find really gets fundies is when you start asking them why they choose OT stuff over NT stuff since they consider themselves Christian.
Jesus is in the NT and pretty much got rid of all the rules. Basically, Jesus said "love God and love your neighbor" and you don't need the Ten Commandments. He also gave the moving Sermon on the Mount, which mentions the poor and the needy - not the rich and elite.
Fundies HATE IT when you do that to them. :)

[ChickMagic]

30. I like to ask them

if they believe in talking donkeys (Numbers 22:28-30). Their answer is usually that they have to ask their pastor.

[gratuitous]

32. Except some will say "yes" without hesitation

"The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it." Getting them off square one by admitting that the Bible says several different things on many issues, you get to the satisfying point where they admit that they are following their own personal predilections in accepting what the Bible "says." As I say, it's a short jump from there to an actual discussion and give-and-take of ideas, rather than a static recitation that "the Bible says thus-and-such, so that's all there is to it."

[Maestro]

40. Thanks. The next irate one will definitely get that one. -nt

[Maestro]

39. Thanks and I have done that

although not in this case. I am very aware of the contradictions and inconsistencies in the Bible. As a Christian (and unfortunately I say that with less and less fervor everyday), I only see the Bible as a book of allegory and metaphor. Many of the stories such as Noah are strikingly similar to ancient Babylonian stories in fact. Anyhow, in the situation that happened today I could not do that. Not the time or the place. I did suggest homeschooling if we(the public school) cannot provide what she wants.

[Arkana]

22. I did a little bit of research for content on the Bible

just so I could duel with fundies, and what I found shocked me. There are like 400 passages about helping the poor, and around 5 on homosexuality. There are also passages that say you can own slaves, that you can't play football (touching the skin of a pig), and other things.

So fundy arguments founder here. Which is it, guys? Either it's all true or it's not--you can't pick and choose!

[Maestro]

42. Fundies definitely pick and choose

There is no doubt. I believe the person in question was raised or taught by missionaries in Niger before she came to the US. She is an immigrant, very intelligent, it would seem and extremely nice. The only thing is she is completely instransigent and out of touch with the realities of teaching which requires the we present only the most universal known "facts" about how we evolved. If she is wants her view included or not demeaned (I'm not sure what she wants) we then must acknowledge all other religions' creation stories. That would seem fair correct?

[Buck Turgidson]

43. The Skeptic's Annotated Bible

The Skeptic's Annotated Bible attempts to remedy this imbalance. It includes the entire text of the King James Version of the Bible, but without the pro-Bible propaganda. Instead, passages are highlighted that are an embarrassment to the Bible-believer, and the parts of the Bible that are never read in any Church, Bible study group, or Sunday School class are emphasized. For it is these passages that test the claims of the Bible-believer. The contradictions and false prophecies show that the Bible is not inerrant; the cruelties, injustices, and insults to women, that it is neither good nor just.

The SAB will help those who believe in the Bible to honestly reconsider that belief. It will help those who are unfamiliar with the Bible to resist the temptation to believe. And it will help those who have already rejected the Bible defend their position.

It is time for us all to stop believing in, or pretending to believe in, a book that is so unworthy of belief.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

[Maestro]

44. Hey this is great.

Thanks a ton!

[Maestro]

45. Apologies in order

I'm sorry for hijacking the thread. I sincerely did not mean to do that.

[FreedomAngel82]

10. That's always nice to see

:) It's always fun to see them not being able to say anything after you've provided them a fact or they go around in circles or they come back and attack you instead or your party's reps (like how they attacked Kerry for his looks and Dean's scream).

[anarchy1999]

15. Much as I love to read it and to hear about it, is this not a topic for

the "lounge"?

[annabanana]

21. Naw... we all need these occasional pick-me-ups...

They may encourage others to speak up.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Make sure you remind him that he lost the debate, chickened out and left,

and is an incompetent, gutless wonder like his führer. :D OK, not the last part, since you don't want to get in trouble. ;)

[opihimoimoi]

27. Wimps, hiding behind the God Cloud and Bush the Pretender....will delve in

to fantasy/denial/anger when cornered with the truth and questions that are not misleading.

They cannot handle and will run from the room at first op.

[Swamp Rat]

31. Aloha!

You and me go catch many fish, drink, lie in hammocks bellies full... forget man with lobotomy and nazi in white house. Life too good to waste. :)

[opihimoimoi]

35. Only if I get to li8ght the bong

[Kansas Wyatt]

38. And if he tries to say something else....

Only answer with, 'You lost, get over it!'

[lasttrip]

29. i always try to politely turn the subject to the "war"

and then hand them instuctions on enlistment forms.

the silence is deafening.

edit:typo

[applegrove]

37. I wonder if McKinsey will be forced to do a 'Study' on how the

productivity of American workers has gone down as they are purposely wedged by the Repukes?

Could happen!:shrug: