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Wed Mar-09-05 01:58 PM
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Anybody see and hear what John Gibson (FOXnews) said about Giuliana Sgrena |
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He referred to her as a "so-called journalist." I was not at home last night and had to stomach through a FOX news broadcast. When I heard that comment, I asked my host to please turn on a real news broadcast to which he replied, "Rush doesn't come on until 12 noon tomorrow. I couldn't tell if he were joking because I was on my way out of his front door by the time he completed the sentence.
So this woman whose profession is reporting, who was kidnapped, and who was almost killed by US forces is a "so-called journalist" to Gibson while "Gannon" is a journalist who the left is trashing. I wanted to e-mail Gibson but I didn't want him to know that someone actually watched his show.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:01 PM
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1. They should be called the PNAC News station by now.... |
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Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 02:01 PM by BrklynLiberal
and as was said in another thread, the White House should be called the PNAC White House.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:01 PM
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2. Republican commandment Number 3 |
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Always, always, always blame the victim. Unless of course said victim is a bushie. Then, blame liberals.
Works like a charm, every time.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:14 PM
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than "some are saying". (this phrase is generally used to get across opinion, not fact). The "some are saying" is common on hate-radio. It's used to promote but springs from no basis. So, you might want to mention who is saying. Then you'll have credence.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:38 PM
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Some people say... etc.
Here's your logic: She is a journalist and activist who is against the war, working for an anti-war Italian newspaper (Il Manifesto). For this reason, her kidnapping in Baghdad MAY have been a hoax designed to put pressure on the Berlusconi government to withdraw its forces from the Iraqi quagmire.
Yes? That's the logic. Fine.
Now, do you have any evidence that this HYPOTHESIS is true? Does the Italian government believe that she was well and truly kidnapped? Weren't they the ones negotiating with her abductors? And wouldn't that mean that they have more information that online speculators? Would Berlusconi take lightly such political blackmail on false pretenses? Would he play along with such extortion? Or expose it? The hoax speculation is nothing but bunk coming from the most deranged fringe elements of the right wing. It is contrary to anything a reasonable person could infer from the situation. Palatable? It is absolutely comical. And stupid.
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Wed Mar-09-05 03:01 PM
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34. To start with Gibsons claim to fame is |
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He is the one known living being that proves Indains fucked Buffalos.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:41 PM
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26. Here at DU, we generally post links |
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when we make assertions like that. It's not an unreasonable request. I'd love to see the sources, too, since you seem to be familiar with them.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:42 PM
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27. That's not what I think you are |
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:48 PM
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30. I took your advice and sure enough "some" are saying |
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Wed Mar-09-05 07:29 PM
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43. Say, did we ever find out who "some" of them are? |
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I won't hold my breath, but do let me know if you find anything. :evilgrin:
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Thu Mar-10-05 02:01 PM
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44. The usual gang of idiots |
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If you follow some of the links.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:20 PM
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"Some say"... where have I heard that before? Hmm... think, think...
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Wed Mar-09-05 03:08 PM
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36. Maybe from that Puke-Sweetie Michelle Malkin? |
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"Some People Say" that she has spread 'em for all the Swift Boat Vets. It must be true if "some people" sayeth it.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:31 PM
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Evidence for this specious slur that you just could not resist inserting into this discussion??????????
Those wily Jews. They control everything.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:45 PM
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29. Not the jews. Rather, the Israeli govt. |
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This would be akin to me saying bad things about the CIA and you asking me why I was badmouthing Americans.
You really need to leave room for Mossad to be criticized without calling it racism, else you risk forcing Jew/Israeli/Zionist/Israeli Government into one container, which of course would result in more anti-Semitism.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:17 PM
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13. This is the best laugh I've had all day |
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:32 PM
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Who are the 'some people' you refer to? Sounds like a Fox news statement. I'm just sayin'. By the way, all your posts are interesting.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:32 PM
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Yeah. She has been "voiceful."
Nicely done. :eyes:
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:37 PM
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:41 PM
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25. You signed up just today to tell us that? |
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:04 PM
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4. Real Redumblican journalists go both ways for Money. Fake ones are risking |
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their lives on the front lines in a war for corporate profits.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:05 PM
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6. myword@foxnews.com is his email according to MediaMatters.org |
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:06 PM
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8. Talk about a so-called journalist! |
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Fox is ALL about so-called journalism! :eyes:
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:11 PM
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10. Someone told me she was a communist. |
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Like that was supposed to justify shooting her.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:34 PM
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21. Headline News did this |
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I was stupidly watching a couple of days ago as I got ready for work. The Barbie Doll anchor read the story and finished with the tag line: "Sgrena works for a Communist newspaper." I thought I was going to have a stroke.
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Wed Mar-09-05 06:56 PM
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But that misses the point. That tag is simply thrown in there to discredit her and make light of the story.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:16 PM
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12. Lou "Better Dead Than Red" Dobbs did the same thing |
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Called into question her credibility because she works for an "anti-war, anti-American, Communist newspaper." And while reporting the story, they had a man from The Heritage Foundation, and another RW think tank, just giving their non-biased opinions on the story.
We never hear, "that's a pro-capitalist story", or "that's a pro-fascist newspaper."
When you have control of the language, you don't need anything else.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:21 PM
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15. Right-wing journalist John Gibson (FOXNews) is a Bushbot talking head. |
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:26 PM
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16. I've never liked hypocrisy |
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Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 02:26 PM by LynnTheDem
or liars, and the rightwing do both in spades every opportunity. And they KNOW it. They LIKE it.
As with bush, they believe WINNING PERIOD; if that means cheating, that just shows you're "smarter" than the other(s) who were "stupid" for being honest.
That's called "sly cunning" and a total lack of integrity, honor and honesty always goes hand in hand with it. And they know that, too. And they don't care about that, either.
I care.
HONOR. HONESTY. INTEGRITY. TRUTH. FAIRNESS.
I have these values; I appreciate, respect and admire these values in others; I try to live by these values every day; I thank God He saw fit to allowing me the seeds of these values, and to all the people throughout my life who helped nurture those seeds into becoming the very roots and blooms of my existance.
Rightwingers have none of the above. And they don't care.
I'm lucky.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:36 PM
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22. all the whores are trashing Sgrena |
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and questioning her reliability.
It's so fucking ugly.
Look at Sgrena's comments, soon after she endured a month of captivity followed by a horrific scene where she's shot and where a man dies on top of her.
She has every reason to be hysterical and angry, but her comments are very restrained.
Then look at all these soft, pink American male whores who are piling on this woman. The only stress they face is the stress of having their precious war, and their precious president, threatened.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:44 PM
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28. And others have pointed out the not-so-subtle misogyny |
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The "she's just a hysterical woman" undercurrent.
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Wed Mar-09-05 02:55 PM
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She just happend to have seen the results of Americas use of banned and outlawed weapons in Falluja, and was mysteriously fired upon after being released, and now she's less a journalist than Gannon. Rove's machine is in full gear today.
On the other hand I'm sure you are right Shinto, this is all faked, just to make America look bad... :eyes: :puke: BTW you are making alot of friends here with your brilliant posts...
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Wed Mar-09-05 03:11 PM
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37. Any comment I could make about Gibson would be unprintable |
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39. Nah, my rhetoric would really be nasty |
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Wed Mar-09-05 07:18 PM
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The term "so-called journalist" means a lot coming from someone at Fox News.
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Wed Mar-09-05 07:27 PM
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I read his column on the FOKKS website where he refered to her as "disgusting" and that he was "disgusted" over her comments that the US soliders were aiming for her.
But it is the price we have to pay for the freedom of speech.
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