Bankrupcy bill

[nadinbrzezinski]

You know this bill is the seed of their own destruction.

Follow this logic... and no it will not happen overnight (and sorry for the stereotypes but they are needed here)

Joe six pack voted for bush, but truly he did not vote for this. Now Joe needs to declare bankruptcy because the wife has (insert chronic disease here) and their medical bills are up the ying yang, and they have used their credit cards

So Joe goes down to the lawyer (six months from now after the bill is signed onto law) and finds out he can't get rid of those credit card bills. Hell they will garnish his wages and all that
So Joe has guns, and he goes down to the local watering hole and start talking to his buddies about them damn no good politicians.. yes the talk is common, but somehow it is different this time.

Now Joe is not alone and slowly that famous misery index starts going up.. in fact him and his buddies start to realize they have nothing else to loose and they do have an epiphany as to who truly wanted this and the fact they did not vote for this. Sooner or later depending how dense Joe is, he realizes, you know this is class warfare and I have been duped... what happens when Joe and his friends, who happen to be gun owners, realize this en masse?

Last time something like this happened the Communist party was the third vote getter in the US (1932). So I would say Joe and his buddies will wake up, how soon, depends how hungry and cold they are... but they will wake up, and that will be quite the anger to behold.

Oh and by the way, at this point I feel no empathy with Joe Six Pack... since we warned him that this is exactly what he was voting for, but us lib'ruls have no morals... but once Jeo and his pals start to get a clue and are reminded they are in this with US... and not THEM (the rich and ultra rich) we will need to LEAD Joe to the watering hole of truth, and give Joe the tools. Hell we will need to stand shoulder to shoulder with Joe on this one... as we are in this together.

How long will it take for Joe to figure it out? Depends just how badly in debt he is, and how long it takes him to realize he cannot pay it.... alas that famous misery index...

[shoelace414]

1. all these bills are happening now

because the more "moderate" bills will be passed in an election year.

[jayfish]

2. But What About...

all the Democrats who voted for passage? Who, exactly, is Joe going to turn to?

Jay

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. US, at DFA meetings, US not politicos

we are the ones he will turn to, and some of us will have to run

I am willing to bet that Democracy for America meetings will start to grow now, and we, at the grassroots will have to be strong. Oh and a politician votes for this DON'T vote for him, DON'T work for him... vote him out

We need to clean house ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE

[daninthemoon]

4. Repubs should open those Bibles they wave around

Can't give you chapter & verse, but in the law books is a provosion for the Jubilee year. Every 7 years ALL DEBT from one Jew to another is forgiven.
This whole bankruptcy, tort reform, medicare sham, social security swindle, will only hurt the middle class folks that so much of these neocon mantras are designed to harm, but marketed to fool.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Here is a game you can play

and I do now on a regular basis... when they start quoting scrupture, quote it back.

It's lots of fun.... trust me...

I am a Jew, and I have become quite a fan of the Sermon of the mount and the need to care for those at the botton....

Some funny moments, a fire and brimstone fundy even said, "you are a good christian if a little misguided in the true message."

"Hmm funny that you should say that, I am Jewish, and I could quote to you the Old Testament you love so much, the fire and brimstone IN HEBREW and even tell you where your King James is not translaged correctly, want to play?"

Usually they leave in a huff, but since I do this quite publicly I have had people of now multiple faiths congratulate me for shutting the guy up... yes I have made scripture a weapon.