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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:39 PM
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Are they trying to de-educate us?
Teachers are in dire straits, when they should be at worst a moderately-paid profession.

No Child Left Behind apparently has a provision in it to facilitate Selective Service access to class rosters.

Government college grants are on the chopping block in budget cuts.

The jobs that many graduates trained for can be done for less by equally or better educated foreign workers for less money.

The jobs that we're told "American workers wouldn't do" are taken by well-intentioned immigrants who are often in danger of being exploited and laws get changed to allow this.

Liberal education has been attacked by Fundamentalists who want to take Science out of Science class or at least slap warning stickers unecessarily on Darwin's THEORY of Evolution. Professors are apparently not allowed an opinion when teaching a philosophy, religion, or history class.

The Government has hinted at eliminating the bare modicum of government study I remember personally being required to pass to graduate eighth grade. Not politics...structual government and discussion of important things such as the Constitution and our brilliant three-way system of checks and balances.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:41 PM
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1. So, if kids don't make the grade, then the military acn have them..
...thus, no need for the draft!
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osiristz Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:42 PM
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2. Don't be surprised
Dumbing down the populace has been in the works for over 30 years. The less we know, the more likely we'll be willing to follow whatever they say. It's obvious it's working.

Remember the duct-tape and plastic scam? Sales soared.

Anyone who watches TV is asking to be fed pabulum.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:44 PM
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3. I see this too
look at the media also. The news caters to the lowest qualities in people. Gossip, trials. It could be an educational force and it used to be. There is no more discussion just a lot of yelling and name calling, facts be damned. Regular programming is mind numbing if you listen to that stuff. It's a downward spiral.
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:45 PM
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4. OH yeah!
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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:30 PM
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5. An interesting section in the NCLB law
also gives special guidelines which streamline the certification for former armed service personel to become teachers when they leave the service. I was very interested in this provision when I read the NCLB law. I am not aware of this being in any other educational provision, but it most certainly is in the NCLB literature.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:32 PM
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6. That I actually wouldn't disagree with.
Veterans would in many cases make great teachers.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:40 PM
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7. I don't know about that
I have taught with several. About half were great and the other half weren't patient enough.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:44 PM
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8. it's crucial
an uneducated populace is the lynchpin of a tyrannical regime. The fewer educated people there are, the more will believe Limpballs.
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