FreedomAngel82
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:29 PM
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Harold Ford on Ed Shultz! |
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Harold Ford junior is going to be on the show talking about SS and other things. I'm excited about that! Can't wait. :) Just wanted to post.
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:30 PM
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yet another reason not to be a Democrat if Ford is the party's future
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:32 PM
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4. Yep, but I'd rather have that DINO as my senator than the |
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Freepers who will run against him in Tennessee.
Besides, he isn't caving on Bush's SS plan.
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:51 PM
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He's against SS so that's a good plus with me. He may be a DINO but a DINO is better than a republican. I do like mayor Corker (lived under him) but wouldn't risk it since he's republican with SS.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:04 PM
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15. Yeah, if it comes down to a race between Ford and Corker, |
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Tennesseans can breathe a sigh of relief, no matter who wins. Corker's a real fiscal Republican, not one of those Freepers. I'll still vote for Ford, but I can live with Corker.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:51 PM
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30. when he votes to take away your civil rights |
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maybe you'll change your tune
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:30 PM
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2. I don't like or trust Harold Ford |
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So I'll be interested in what he has to say. Chimpy seems to like him though.
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:31 PM
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3. Maybe he'll explain why he appeared at Bush's Bamboozapalooza |
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:32 PM
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5. Ford is part of the problem |
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:33 PM
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6. Apparently, you don't live in a red state. |
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:48 PM
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9. No...Georgia..it's not too red, just a little pink |
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Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 03:49 PM by burythehatchet
but did send Cynthia McKinney back
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:52 PM
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I think she's great. I saw her on an Alex Jones video speaking and also the Ohio electoral vote hearing. That was great.
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:54 PM
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12. SHe's been cowed quite a bit |
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She seems to be much more sedate. I've told her that she needs to keep the heat on.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:09 PM
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19. And how many Democratic US senators do you have? |
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None? That's what I thought.
Understand what I'm saying, now?
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:14 PM
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:shrug:
but if you're suggesting that I follow democrats as they become new centrists (which is actually the old right wing), you're probably barking up the wrong tree. I'm always open to new theories and differing perspectives, but I have to tell you that since the days when I was working for John Anderson, I have watched the people's party become the second rate division of AmeriKKKa, Inc. No thanks bucko.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:16 PM
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23. No. I am saying that Dems perceived as ultra lefties |
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don't get elected in the South - at least not until we do something to change the media.
I, however, would rather have a conservative Dem than a whacko Freeper as my senator. It's not ideal, but it's a step closer.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:20 PM
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26. Its a very deep divide between ultra-leftie and Harold Ford |
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:24 PM
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29. But you know that "ultra-leftie" in the South is just moderate-left |
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in the North.
It's our media, I'm tellin' ya. We only have freeper radio shows from sun-up to sun-down. And the newspapers, outside the larger cities, aren't much better.
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:38 PM
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7. red state, hard to be a elected dem without a little conservative in you |
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:42 PM
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8. he represents blue friggin' Memphis: that's no excuse |
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and he'll lose the Senate race: I'd stake money if I were a betting man
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:06 PM
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17. Harold way better than the other Fords |
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Harold Jr. has really risen above his family, who are all in politics. Harold actually had to issue a statement distancing himself from his uncle's behaviour. He has a chance to win the Senate if Van Hilleary is the Republican nominee-- and he might be. That is why Tennessee now has a Democratic governor-- because Van Hilleary ran against him. So his statewide ambitions are part of the mix--plus part of his prep school background (patina) is showing. There are only two decent political leaders in this county, and Harold is one of them. The other is Shelby County Mayor Wharton, who probably has no further political ambitions. When these two leave politics, I see little hope.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:07 PM
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18. Yeah, but he's getting ready to run statewide |
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So, he's trying to SOUND more conservative than he actually votes.
He probably will lose, but I'm still going to work to elect him. Besides, Tennesseans might get fed up with Bush's SS mantra and we love our Dem governor, so his chances are getting better.
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:54 PM
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13. I hope Schultz grills him on his vote for the Bankruptcy bill. n/t |
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Mon Mar-14-05 03:58 PM
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Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 04:00 PM by FreedomAngel82
He didn't talk much on anything else. :( Just about SS. Only problem with what he said about Bush sitting down with democrats about SS is Bush is so stubborn and he won't. I saw him on a budget plan hearing and he was talking about how the wealthy still have tax cuts when other people are suffering and the meadator got a real pissy look on his face. He didn't like that at all because Ford junior was talking about taking the tax cuts away from the wealthy and stuff. He also talked about how Bush's little SS stops are and he was at one and how Bush doesn't take question's from the audience and just had three/four other people there who say the exact same things and agree with him. Quite sad really.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:05 PM
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16. They showed Harold Ford the other day at one of Bush's events |
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He was in the audience clapping it up. I about threw up! He sickens me.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:10 PM
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20. Maybe so, but Kerry shook Bush's hand the other day |
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:16 PM
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22. Its just politics???????? |
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Whaaaaaaa
Is that not what has brought us to the precipice?
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:20 PM
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27. I'm tired of people jumping on Harold Ford for acting like |
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everyone else.
He may a Blue Dog Dem, but he's not part of the problem. As I've said upthread, I'd rather have a conservative Dem - who may agree with my positions 85 to 90 percent of the time - than a Freeper who agrees with my position NONE of the time.
Ford is APPEARING to be more conservative than he is, really. I've looked at his voting record and, other than his vote on partial-birth abortion, he really isn't all that conservative.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:18 PM
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24. ...and another thing, now that you got me going |
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..my sixth sense tells me you're a Clark supporter. Good on ya mate. I like Clark as well. But if his tack would be to go center, he can forget about my support during primaries.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:22 PM
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28. I am a Clark supporter |
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Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 04:23 PM by Clark2008
And I don't expect him to go center - but, he is PERCEIVED as "center," which will HELP him in the red states. People think Clark is center and he's not. He's very liberal.
Ford, as a black man, has to work at being PERCEIVED as centrist, especially in the rest of the state.
It really is just politics.
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Mon Mar-14-05 04:19 PM
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If he seems to be a DINO Bush supporter I don't know if I'd vote for him now. We don't need that on our side. I'd rather vote to get mayor Corker in so at least we don't have another DINO.
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Mon Mar-14-05 06:20 PM
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31. Ford's is a planted infiltrator. Probably recruited by Republicans to |
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run as a Democrat for the seat.
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