Clinton/Boxer

[Old Deuteronomy]

or Boxer/Clinton 2008?

What would be wrong with that?

Seriously. Share. I am leaning in that direction.

[whistle]

1. I would also suggest an all female congress as well....

...and only female appointees to the federal courts.

[Old Deuteronomy]

4. Ooooookay....

was that a slam or for real? It would interesting of nothiing else to see two women running the country -- and such strong, opinionated and DEMOCRAT ladies at that! Hehehe...

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Too much testosterone in the red states.

[Old Deuteronomy]

6. Yeah....

could well be and we men ARE afraid we might lose our leverage (whatever THAT is in 2005). Hhaahah

[Walt Starr]

3. Senator + Senator

did njobody learn anything about the historical brick wall Senators hit in presidential campaigns from the 2004 election?

[T Roosevelt]

5. Drop Clinton

and Boxer as a VP candidate...

[Old Deuteronomy]

7. Nawwwwwwwwww...

I gotta see Hillary give em HE--.

[babylonsister]

29. Agreed!

I respect Sen. Clinton, but I think the repugs are anxious to push Clinton on us specifically because they think/know she won't win. So anyone who suggests Clinton causes me to be skeptical.

[Old Deuteronomy]

40. Could well be...

and it is a delimma I admit... still I believe she would be a good president or VP to a good man... we just gotta find that good man... or woman...

[eissa]

8. How bad do you want to lose?

I admire both women tremendously (especially Boxer). Realistically, however, we need a nice white, Christian man, who is married, has at least one child, and preferably speaks with a twang. Otherwise, the red states will simply give us the finger again.

My picks for '08: Governors Mark Warner of Virginia and/or Tom Vilsak of Iowa, with Senators Tom Harkin (Iowa) or Evan Bayh (Indiana) as possible running mates. Yeah, I know, not exactly the average liberal's first choice, but I want to win, damn it!!

[Old Deuteronomy]

10. Might be nice....

to have someone we have actually HEARD of and from though, ya think?

[eissa]

18. Who heard of Bill Clinton prior to '92?

Not all presidents came from the Senate or were related to former presidents. In fact, many consider "an outsider" to be a plus when voting. Just my .02 cents.

[Old Deuteronomy]

32. Your .02 cents....

is as good as the next guys....

[Old Deuteronomy]

27. Bill....

seems to me, with her smarts and charisma, AND the FACT that MANY MANY MANY love Bill (who would now BOOST her or fie! AHHA) -- she might have a great chance.

[saltpoint]

9. Boxer would energize me big time, but not Hillary Clinton.

She's just too darned conservative.

[Old Deuteronomy]

13. Maybe, but....

I personally think she is a smart cookie.

You may be right, though. <sigh>

I just hate to see us try to run DEAN-O boy again...

[saltpoint]

16. I agree with you that Sen. Clinton is smart.

But we part company on Howard Dean. Is that who you mean? I like him a lot and give him credit for inspiring a hell of a lot of people to seek meaningful reform in government.

[Old Deuteronomy]

20. Howard

did good until he gave the idiots a chance to make him look like an idiot himself because he ACTUALLY got excited!

But I mean Hillary Clinton and Ms. Boxer running tigether... I thought DINO (someone used that term) might have meant Dean-o. HAHAHHA.. my bad is all.

[saltpoint]

26. In defense of Howard Dean, I think his "scream" was --

-- an effort to buoy his loyal volunteers -- a way of affirming their participation in the process. Any good coach does this from the sidelines at a school basketball game, and good candidates do it also for their volunteers and staff.

I blame the media for distorting the event, not Dean for rallying his troops.

[Old Deuteronomy]

31. And I agree...

one hundred and one percent. I thought it was great myself, until I woke the next day and media had crucified him on a neo-con stick... I was floored.

[NYdemocrat089]

11. I'd say one or the other...

Not both.

[Stop_the_War]

12. Boxer should be the Presidential candidate

[Old Deuteronomy]

14. DINO?

Meaning... DEAN?

[Stop_the_War]

15. huh?

DINO means "Democrat-in-name-only". I guess Hillary can be called a "DINO " on some issues.

[Old Deuteronomy]

19. Oh I'm so sorry....

I am not UP on all our little wordings... I see... welll... I am not too sure about that then... hmmmm....

[Stop_the_War]

22. It's okay! I have to keep up with all the wordings too.....

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Nope. Hil's on my shitlist for not voting on the bankruptcy bill

last week.

Or was that the day Bill had surgery? Was his surgery scheduled on that day on purpose? I say yes.

No Hillary. She's too far to the right now. I want a FAR LEFT DEMOCRAT who represents our party and who we really are. Enough of this playing nice with the repukes bullshit.

Clark/Boxer

[Old Deuteronomy]

21. I see....

but I do NOT see Clarke... he is like Gore... BORING. He'll never fly.

[Stop_the_War]

23. i agree...

We need some new faces and not people that already ran for President.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. He spells his name CLARK. He's anything but boring.

The man is brilliant. Tell me, what do you know about Wes Clark and his policies?

The MSM shut him out of coverage so not many people know him or what he's about. What do you know?

[Old Deuteronomy]

25. Suffice it to say....

not enough to vote for him. He lacks charisma and (nfortunately) we will need some of that... but hey, we have some time... Clark (and yes I know, I have BIG fingers that get in the way, sorry) just seems so dry and...again... boring....

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. No Charisma???? Hahahahahahah. That's funny.

I'm not going to get in another flamewar with you over Wes Clark, 4 Star General, Rhodes Scholar, Supreme allied commander of Europe, head of his West Debate team and....

How does General Wesley Clark compare to legendary West Point Generals? See for yourself.

1. General Robert E. Lee - Class of 1829 #2 in class of 46
(Civil War)
2. General Ulysses S. Grant - Class of 1843 #21 in class of 39
(Civil War)
3. General John J. Pershing - Class of 1886 #30 in class of 76
(World War I)
4. General Douglas MacArthur - Class of 1903 #1 in class of 94
(World War II + Korea)
5. General George S. Patton -Class of 1909 #46 in class of 153
(World War II)
6. General Dwight Eisenhower - Class of 1915 #61 in class of 164
(World War II)
7. General William Westmoreland - Class of 1936 #112 in class of 276
(Vietnam)
8. General Norman Schwarzkopf - Class of 1956 #43 in class of 480
(Dessert Storm)
9. General Wesley Clark - Class of 1966 #1 in class of 579
(NATO/Kosovo)

Definitely one of the smartest generals in U.S. history.


We Clark supporters know who he is and what he is. I'll save the fights for another few years. :eyes:

[Old Deuteronomy]

30. ANOTHER flame war?

I don't do flame wars. So, you have not been in A flame war with me at all. Now, I simply made a personal observation, not a Biblical delaration. You vote for Clark, I'll vote for Hillary... and we thus cancel one another out. LOL

[Stop_the_War]

33. lol

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. I worded that wrong.

There were endless Clark flamewars during the primaries. THAT'S what I meant by ANOTHER, not necessarily "YOU". sorry.

Peace. :hippie:

[maveric]

34. We were discussing this at work yesterday. About a woman as prez

And most of my co-workers agree that men have fucked the system up so much that a woman might be able to staighten it up a bit.

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41. Hahahahh

well, not too many would disagree -- especially with WHAT is in there now. God, what a mistake!!!!

[doc03]

35. I would say it would be a landslide victory

for the Republicans in 2008 unless they run Condilezza Rice.

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37. Really now....

and why?

Condi baby would tick too many folks off with her overly MALE personna, dontcha think?

[doc03]

44. What I said is the Republicans would win (unless) they

run Condi. No rightwing, southern, born again Christian bigot would vote for a black women for President

[Bertha Venation]

38. Neither could win unless there is a major change in the country's

temperament.

No way would either of those be a winning ticket today, and I don't think the country will change enough in 3 1/2 years to make it a winning ticket.

[Old Deuteronomy]

39. Is it....

the WOMAN issue or the personalities though?

Are we ready for a woman? A black? A black woman? God forbid, Condee baby gets in... she is a shrew from hell and trained by the Shrub for anti-Christ terrorism of our own country.

[Bertha Venation]

42. Both their gender and their personalities, but primarliy gender.

Rice won't head the GOP ticket in '08, although I could see them running her as the VP candidate.

But an all-female ticket -- not in this climate. No way.

And Hillary Clinton on the ticket at either level is an instant GOP win. Too many people who aren't even Republicans hate her.

[Old Deuteronomy]

43. Could well be....

but I hope you are wrong cause I sure would like to see her give it a go...

[Melynn]

45. The problem is that Hillary is going to the right to win Presidency

I don't think that Hillary would nominate a progressive with guts for VP. If Hillary stays true to form, she would run with a DLC "moderate".