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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:42 AM
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Who believes "Money is the Root of ALL Evil"
Do Republicans believe this or Christians or any American at all? I believe it so I guess that may make me Un-American. :shrug:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:43 AM
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1. Money is not the root of all evil...
The love of money is, however.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:52 AM
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8. Fucking A-plus
It's the love of goddamn money that fucks people.
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:12 AM
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11. No, it's not the love of money
I believe the lyric goes:

Money, it’s a crime.
Share it fairly but don’t take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise it’s no surprise that they’re
Giving none away.

</Uncomfortably dry sense of humor off/>
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:24 AM
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19. It's not a fucking lyric. It's in the goddamn Bible.
Read your motherfucking Bible for reference.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:28 AM
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21. lololol
that has got to be a classic:

"It's not a fucking lyric. It's in the goddamn Bible."
Read your motherfucking Bible for reference.


I almost snorted coffee through my nose.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:40 AM
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24. Yeah goddamn 1 Timothy 6:10
"The love of MFing money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some MFers have strayed from the GD faith in their MFing greediness, and pierced themselves through with many MFing sorrows"

:evilgrin:
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:48 AM
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27. I think that's the funniest thing I've read on DU so far.
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:47 AM
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26. Dude, chill!
And read post #25.

Unless you are joking about this post. In that case you have far exceeded the dryness of my meager wit, and hats off to you.

:)
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:38 AM
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23. The correct quote is "the love of money..." It's biblical not
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:45 AM
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25. Yeah, I know
It was my attempt at a joke. That's why I included </Uncomfortably dry sense of humor off/>.

But, thanks for the calm reply, unlike some others around here. :)
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:50 AM
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28. I thought you were joking!
I'm kinda hoping they are, too. :o
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:55 AM
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30. It's so hard to tell these days.
I've actually been attacked that vehemently before when discussing religion, but I guess that's what makes it funny. I guess religion is nothing to joke about, but that probably won't stop us.

BTW, you must be one big fan of The Clash, JimmyJazz.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:02 PM
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31. NO! It's the love of somebody with money!
But look at my hopes, look at my dreams
The currency we’ve spent
(ooooh) I love you, oh, you pay my rent
(ooooh) I love you, oh, you pay my rent

PET SHOP BOYS.

Also the love of trashy Europop. :evilgrin:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:44 AM
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2. I don't believe money is the root of all evil
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:44 AM by Blue_Roses
but the love of money reeks a lot of havic.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:44 AM
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3. I don't think an inanimate object is the root of evil.
That's a cop out. Money has done a lot of good things for people as well.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:45 AM
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4. "There isn't enough mommy in the world to further a cause like yours."
Name that movie.

/hijack

:hi:

BTW, I don't believe it is the root of all evil. I believe the LOVE of money (that's how the saying goes) is one of the roots of evil.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:47 AM
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6. Postcartd from the Edge!
Love it. I've seen it a million times.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:53 AM
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9. GREAT movie. and Welcome to DU!
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 10:54 AM by Bertha Venation
The book was good too. It leads w/ the line, "Maybe I shouldn't have given the guy who pumped my stomach my phone number." Carrie Fisher's a wicked author.

Welcome :hi:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:45 AM
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5. "Allmighty dollar..."
those that worship and covet the dollar are evil not the dollar itself.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:51 AM
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7. Greed is.
How many crimes are committed for the want of more money?

Druggies wanting to pay for their next hit?

Corporate embezzlers raiding the company coffers and getting golden parachutes while the business and it's employees go down in flames?

The only real difference is in scale.

Having money isn't the problem. Being willing to do anything to get more is the problem.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:01 AM
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10. Power is the root of all evil. The seeking of it, the seizure of it,
the concentrating of it, the use of it.

When the playground bully steals lunchmoney, the money is just a side benefit of being able to exercise power over the other.

Money is nothing more than symbolic power. And there are many people of great wealth who do not use their money to exercise power.

True christianity, like true democracy, diffuses power. 'Blessed are the meek.' 'We, the People.' 'Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.'

Money is symbolic power, and power corrupts. That is why so much corruption is found in the wealthy. It's not the money, per se. It's the drive for power.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:15 AM
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12. Actually, I believe it is the POWER that the money gives people that
turns them into Gollems.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:15 AM
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13. Whoever came up with that line really meant greed
I would bet.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:19 AM
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17. "Whoever"???
Interesting failure to offer attribution. Considering. :eyes:
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:25 AM
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20. Some people I can't directly speak for
I would also bet, that saying had been in circulation long before.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:17 AM
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14. the LOVE of money is the root of all evil
According to Timothy. No one thinks money itself is anything except a convenience and a good. Try having money and then try not having it. Many problems are solved by having it. However, the LOVE of what is after all a marker for keeping track of one's financial status can make people do things they would not otherwise do. Bernie Ebbers had enough and more to meet his needs, but he still had the rip off the investors of Mississippi and elsewhere anyway. He could have been a success story, instead, he hurt a lot of good people who believed in him because he had to exaggerate to get more, more, more.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:18 AM
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16. GMTA and tie (grin)
:hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:17 AM
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15. "For the LOVE of money is the root of all evil." (1 Timothy 6:10)
Let's get the original quotation correct.

"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (King James Version)
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:30 AM
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22. ha! Jinx!
Great timing.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:23 AM
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18. Ever notice how many of those who claim that money is the root
of all evil are unwilling to give up said evil?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:53 AM
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29. It sure as hell is for policiticians.
Gotta keep their warchests full, get those perks from the lobbyists, keep their seat at the trough.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:04 PM
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32. What I've heard is:
"Money is the root of all evil...and people need roots."
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:11 PM
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33. It's not the money that's the root of evil- it's the LOVE of it that is-
and the crew that's in power in the U.S. LOVES it like no other...
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:12 PM
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34. Control
is the root of ALL evil...

Not value. Value is just an other means to control.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:13 PM
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35. Money is just power on paper. Self-interest is the root of all evil.
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The_Mule Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:42 PM
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36. Of course, there's a lot of talk here about the *love* of money,
but there are plenty of warnings in the bible about money itself, including:

The God and mammon warning:
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Matthew 6:19-24 KJV)

The rich man and eye of needle warning:
And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions. And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Mark 10:17-25 KJV)

And the lesson in Luke 12 (I won't quote it since it's long).

Basically, I think that the Biblical lesson is that we are not supposed to want to be rich, and we shouldn't give it any thought or worry. We should focus our efforts on serving God (loving God and loving others), not on taking care of ourselves (storing up money and things). I think most (not necessarily all) rich people get that way because they are so consumed with taking care of themselves. That makes it very, very difficult to think of others.

</scary, almost fundie-like Scripture quoting off>
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:44 PM
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37. The lack of money is the root of all evil
per Rev Ike. Makes sense to me.
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adwon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:08 PM
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38. Paul was wrong
There is no singular root of evil. There is one contender, though, that dwarfs all others if a contest were held: vanity/pride.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:10 PM
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39. I've said so often. The Bible translator merely added a prefix. It read
'The love of'.

Whether or not that person should be shot is another issue, but would it have made ANY difference at all?
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:14 PM
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40. I do...
but it does not have to be. I could be quite happy on $60,000 a year, and that is a drop in the bucket to some folks. Hell, $30,000 could be enough for me.
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