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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:47 PM
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Killing is fun, and when there are no people around to shoot at
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 12:49 PM by JohnyCanuck
dogs will do in pinch.


Hi my name is M. D. formaly of A TRP 1-10 CAV 4ID and while in Iraq we had a sport of killing dogs whenever the Iraqis werent shooting us. So when I shot this one at about 50 yards with my M4 and it ran yelping to lower ground, we had to finish it so my friends and I went to it and started shooting it. I ve never seen a dog take as many shots to the head at least 4 as this one did and then after we thought it was dead we dug a hole and when I picked it up with the shovel it came back to life, so we shot it a couple more times....its pretty funny."

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/dog_shooting_in_iraq_for_fun_Mar_16_2005.html

For your viewing pleasure, wmv of dog shooting here (disturbing)

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/march/ogrish-dot-com-dog_shooting_in_iraq.wmv

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:53 PM
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1. "combat situations!" "they were skeert!" "they were under stress!"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:19 PM
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:49 PM
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3. I guess we must be grateful
they're only shooting at dogs and not journalists and Iraq civilians.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:39 PM
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7. here, here.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:51 PM
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4. That is utterly disgusting. And they want us to support
these monsters? Not me!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:55 PM
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:30 PM
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6. The problem is--they stand for the USA.
Most of our soldiers are not war criminals. Most citizens of the USA are not imperialist warmongers.

But these two soldiers are in the news--representing all of us.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:47 PM
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8. War Crime!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:54 PM
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9. Why the fuck did these dipshit troops waste valuable ammo?
Seriously? Its not theirs to shoot off any time they get a little fucking bored. I can think of several reasons why a CO or first shirt should rip these guys a new one or a stripe off, besides the obvious cruelty of shooting defensless scavenger dogs.

Not only a little sick but quite stupid as well.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:18 PM
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10. Also is this even verified as a real incident???
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 08:26 PM by frictionlessO
edited to add that that site is kinda creepy as well.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:24 PM
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11. Are the dogs a hazard?
Before everybody has the immediate obvious reaction, I'd like to know whether the dog-killing is done to prevent attacks by feral dogs or the spread of rabies or some legitimate reason like that.

Yes, it sounds brutal. It bothers me that anyone can see the death-struggle of another creature as "funny." But I want to know whether this is gratuitous cruelty, or just a case of people going too far in carrying out a distasteful but necessary action.

Tucker
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:31 PM
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13. Killing a dog because it is vicious or sick one thing
Enjoying killing it is another and indicates, to me, a human with some serious mental problems.

"I picked it up with the shovel it came back to life, so we shot it a couple more times....its pretty funny."
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:57 PM
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16. Yes, and what I'm trying to figure out...
Is it the case that the soldiers have to/believe they have to shoot the dogs, and have started making a game of it? While disturbing, that would be slightly more understandable than if they are just doing it for fun, without there being any legitimate reason for killing the dogs in the first place.

It might seem like a small distinction, but I think there is a difference.

Tucker
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:14 AM
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17. He wrote: "We had a SPORT of killing dogs..."
...so it sounds to me like is was just killing animals to relieve the boredom.

:grr:

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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:36 PM
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14. You may have a very good point there.
Thank you. Though his wording tends to lead me otherwise, I thought that it might be to keep 'em away from dead people. On re-reading it though, it really comes off different.

I am hoping its a hoax.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:12 AM
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18. GIs shoot Iraq battle footage and edit it into music videos
By Louise Roug, Times Staff Writer
GIs shoot Iraq battle footage and edit it into music videos filled with death and destruction.



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-videos14mar14,0,2298678.story?coll=la-home-headlines

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1309843#1309845

The result: an abundance of photographs and video footage depicting mutilation, death and destruction that soldiers collect and trade like baseball cards....

"Don't need your forgiveness," the song by the band Dope begins as images unfurl: armed soldiers posing in front of Bradley fighting vehicles, two women covered in black abayas walking along a dusty road, a blue-domed mosque, a poster of radical cleric Muqtada Sadr. Then, to the fast, hard beat of the music — "Die, don't need your resistance. Die, don't need your prayers" — charred, decapitated and bloody corpses fill the screen.

"It's like a trophy, something to keep," McCullough, 20, said back at his cramped living quarters at Camp Warhorse near Baqubah. "I was there. I did this."
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:26 PM
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12. Article 15
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 08:27 PM by solinvictus
In the least, they should get an Article 15 for wasting ammunition or carelessly discharging their weapons. Stupid shits. .

Edit: Unless if and only if there was an actual problem with feral dogs as suggested above. Feral dogs are quite dangerous in packs.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 08:37 PM
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15. One consolation:
The below preceded this asshole's statement. Hope the US military and PETA fry his ass. Sorry, I am an animal lover and it makes my blood boil to see or hear of any animal cruelty.

NOTE: Ogrish.com opposes behavior such as that below. We have provided the US military and animal organisation PETA details regarding the sender of this submission
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pen dragon Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:05 AM
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19. fucking pricks
If they're trained to actually use those weapons with any kind of skill, and it was necessary to shoot scavenger dogs, which it very well might be, one shot should suffice. These worthless pieces of shit were just maximizing the suffering of that poor animal for kicks. I'd boot fuck these two guys to within an inch of their lives if I could


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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:33 AM
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20. Anyone who can kill an innocent dog
...will have no trouble killing an innnocent person.

al Qaeda terrorists did the same in one of their training videos, which showed them (successfully) testing poisonous gas on a small dog. 9/11 occurred after that taping.

Soul-less individuals exist in every society. All they need is a weapon and an excuse.
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