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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:22 PM
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Andrea Yates divorces: gets rights to be buried next to kids she killed
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 04:25 PM by rainbow4321
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D88SUIA01.html


Russell Yates finalized his divorce Thursday from his wife, Andrea, three years after she was sentenced to life in prison for drowning their children.

Under the decree, Andrea Yates will get her gliding rocking chair — generally used for nursing babies — and the right to be buried near the five children. Russell Yates will also give her $7,000 and a portion of his retirement benefits from his employment at NASA.

The cemetery has seven Yates plots — five for the children and one each for Russell and Andrea. As to whether Russell Yates will be buried next to Andrea, "Nobody ever knows what the future is going to hold," Salinsky said.

Andrea Yates, 40, was sentenced to life in prison for three of the 2001 drowning deaths, but the capital murder convictions were overturned in January. A panel of the First Court of Appeals in Houston sided with her lawyers, who contended false testimony from a prosecution expert witness influenced the jury. Andrea Yates claimed she was insane at the time of the drownings.


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:24 PM
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1. What happened to for better or for worse?
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:25 PM
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12. He's taking lessons from Terri Schiavo's "husband"...
the guy who has moved in w/ and knocked up another woman <twice> but still tries to refer to himself as Terri's "husband" <with all spousal rights attached>.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:26 PM
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13. Actually, he is doing the complete opposite-he divorced Andrea.
Before impregnating another woman twice.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:25 PM
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2. I'm sure he's got Mrs. Yates II already lined up.
And they're planning a BIG family.

(Sorry, I saw too much of this guy on TV.)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:27 PM
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3. I was disgusted by him.
His lack of help & support for her with their "litter" of kids should have gotten him SOME sort of responsibility for the crime.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:39 PM
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6. I agree
I was watching that with the church and him in essence telling
her she was a baby machine and designed to "serve" her husband..

why she didn't just shoot her husband instead of drowning her
kids is a great mystery, but I kept thinking if she tapped into
the real problem and realized the mind fuck she had been under for
years it probably all wouldn't have happened.

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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:22 PM
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11. Right up there w/ the father of the kid who's arms got cut off...
The guy that beat the mother in the CHURCH PARKING LOT w/ a wooden spoon <per one of their own kids who witnessed it>. The mother had told him like the night before the killing that she was wanting to give their baby to God...and he went merrily off to work the next day.
The TX court system gave him full custody of their remaining kids a month or so ago---one stipulation: they have to be allowed to call their aunt on a weekly basis <she is some social worker or such up in NY>.
Yeah, these kids are going back to a frigging normal, healthy household...NOT!
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:30 PM
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4. He should be in prison
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:37 PM
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5. Did I miss something here?
I don't know much about this story except for what happened. Was the husband somehow involved? And if you think that a man who's wife drowned his 5 children isn't living in prison you are sadly mistaken...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:42 PM
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9. Yes, you missed something. Like the fact that he KNEW she had
serious post partum depression PRIOR to her having her last child. Like the fact that he had her participate in an EXTREME fundamental religion that probably FED her mental breakdown. Sorry...Rusty is a pig who is just as complicit in the death of his children.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:27 PM
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15. Ding Ding Ding!!!! Thank you!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:32 PM
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22. Thank you.
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 05:33 PM by redqueen

:hi:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:29 PM
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17. He was not involved in a crime. But he kept on
impregnating her even though the Drs. warned them they shouldn't have more children because of her PPD.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:38 PM
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26. the doctors told HIM this WILL happen again.
not maybe, not might, but WILL.

He needs to be brought up on reckless endangerment or something.

It's his fault his kids are dead, that fundie POS.

I loathe this man, he has come to represent in one person everything that is horribly, horribly wrong with fundamentalist religion.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:41 PM
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27. child endangerment is a crime
he knew she was unstable and he still left the kids with her. I don't know exactly what he should be charged with, but it should be something. Searching my memory for legal terms from television, maybe "negligent homicide" or "extreme indifference?"
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:36 PM
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28. CLEARLY, he is more guilty than she
He is proud that he never changed a diaper.
Think about that.
This fucker needs to go to prison.
He did not honor his wife.
He did not love his children.
That defines BEAST.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:39 PM
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7. He does.
That's the reason for the divorce, actually.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:00 PM
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10. yeah, probably started looking around the church for one
preferably in her mid teens, the day after the murders.

I saw too much of him, too.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:27 PM
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14. At least he is planning on a big family after a divorce.
It's not that I like the guy, but nobody should be forced to stay married in their situation.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:31 PM
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19. Look how well he helped care for his other children.
He is the one who thought it a good idea to leave a woman with severe postpartum depression alone with five kids.

He shouldn't have any more kids, until he understands he has a part to paly in their care as well as the mother. It seems as if most fundies don't quite grasp that.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:34 PM
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24. I am not arguing with that, but it's not like we can order him what
to do.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:40 PM
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8. I don't begrudge her that.
She's mentally ill. If she'd had proper care, those murders wouldn't have happened.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:28 PM
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16. I wholeheartedly agree.
She thought she was 'saving' them by killing them. She had broken with reality at that point.

If she'd had proper care and attention medically, it wouldn't have happened.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:31 PM
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18. Nobody can know what would or wouldn't have happened.
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 05:31 PM by lizzy
It's not like there are cures for the mental problems she had.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:32 PM
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20. The probability of those murders happening would have been GREATLY reduced
That better?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:33 PM
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23. Yes. Much better.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:32 PM
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21. Oh, sorry. I guess I've should've said "in my opinion."
But I figured you knew I wasn't Miss Cleo in the first place.

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 05:34 PM
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25. "generally used for nursing babies"
my ass. just give us the facts, newsbot, without adding in the sentimental bullshit.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:02 AM
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29. Actually, that's a good point. n/t
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:15 AM
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30. I've come to the conclusion that Yates was insane--both...
...psychologically and legally--when she drowned those kids. She thought she was acting for their own good. Legal sanity means you understood what you were doing was wrong. She didn't.

Usually, I'm for being tough on crime, but Yates is one of the few defendants I've thought actually qualified as legally insane.
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