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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:53 PM
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the movie "The American President" just gets better and better
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 06:55 PM by AZDemDist6
the final speech hits it right on the nose

edit to add speech

For the record, yes, I am a card carrying member of the ACLU, but the more important question is "Why aren't you, Bob?" Now this is an organization whose sole purpose is to defend the Bill of Rights, so it naturally begs the question, why would a senator, his party's most powerful spokesman and a candidate for President, choose to reject upholding the constitution? Now if you can answer that question, folks, then you're smarter that I am, because I didn't understand it until a few hours ago.

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.

I've known Bob Rumson for years. And I've been operating under the assumption that the reason Bob devotes so much time and energy to shouting at the rain was that he simply didn't get it. Well I was wrong. Bob's problem isn't that he doesn't get it. Bob's problem is that he can't sell it!

We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. You gather a group of middle age, middle class, middle income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family, and American values and character,
and you wave an old photo of the President's girlfriend and you scream about patriotism -- you tell them she's to blame for their lot in life. And you go on television and you call her a whore.

Sydney Ellen Wade has done nothing to you, Bob. She has done nothing but put herself through school, represent the interests of public school teachers, and lobby for the safety of our natural resources. You want a character debate, Bob? You better stick with me, 'cause Sydney Ellen Wade is way out of your league.

I've loved two women in my life. I lost one to cancer. And I lost the other 'cause I was so busy keeping my job, I forgot to do my job. Well that ends right now.

Tomorrow morning the White House is sending a bill to Congress for it's consideration. It's White House Resolution 455, an energy bill requiring a twenty percent reduction of the emission of fossil fuels over the next ten years. It is by far the most aggressive stride ever taken in the fight to reverse the effects of global warming. The other piece of legislation is the crime bill. As of today, it no longer exists. I'm throwing it out. I'm throwing it out and writing a law that makes sense. You cannot address crime prevention without getting rid of assault weapons and hand guns. I consider them a threat to national security, and I will go door to door if I have to, but I'm gonna convince Americans that I'm right, and I'm gonna get the guns.

We've got serious problems, and we need serious people. And if you want to talk about character, Bob, you'd better come at me with more than a burning flag and a membership card. If you want to talk about character and American values, fine. Just tell me where and when, and I'll show up. This a time for serious people, Bob, and your fifteen minutes are up.

My name is Andrew Shepherd, and I AM the President.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:55 PM
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1. Only to non-conservs. Only to non-conservs. To a conservative,
any speech that says belonging to the ACLU is a good thing is like saying you believe in Satan.

But I agree. That's a fine movie. I watch it almost every time it comes on TV.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:58 PM
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3. Why DO the conservatives hate civil liberties?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:07 PM
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8. I've met liberals who want a law banning flag burning.
They're reasoning is that it's not yours, it's "public property" and so you don't have a right to destroy it or some such nonsense.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:59 PM
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17. Since people
have died for that flag don't we all own it since we're all US citizen's? And they obviously don't know anything about flag burning. Flag burning serves two purposes: one is to dispose of it properly instead of throwing it away and two: protest. It isn't illegal.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:02 PM
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5. I've always wondered..
Why do they hate the Bill of Rights?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:57 PM
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2. I love that movie!
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 06:58 PM by ronnykmarshall
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 06:59 PM
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4. I'll probably watch it again tonight and fall in love with Annette Benning
all over again.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:54 PM
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15. I ended up buying the DVD.
I keep it right next to the drool bucket.
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:03 PM
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6. You are so right - Maybe we need a history professor to run for Pres...
It's one of the few dvds I've actually bought so I can watch it whenever I need a pick me up. It also pushed me into actually joining the ACLU several years ago when I first saw it. I wanted to be a "card carrying member" too!

I missed it this weekend on Bravo - maybe I'll go pop it in...
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:05 PM
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7. That would make President Andrew Shepherd...
the most liberal President in the history of the United States of America. :)

And I bet you he lost re-election. ;)
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:10 PM
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9. Well, with his gun banning statement..
he's not exactly defending the entire Bill of Rights. I enjoyed the movie as a whole, but come on, liberals of that stripe are just as hypocritical about the Second Amendment as Republicans are about due process/search and seizure.
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:27 PM
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13. I concur
I wasn't a big fan of that line. I am not a gun owner myself and probably won't be in the foreseeable future. However I would oppose overtures that would outright ban hang-guns in this country.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:22 PM
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10. I LOVE this movie - and this scene never fails to give me shivers!!!
one of the best scenes EVER!!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:23 PM
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11. Some of the best lines were not by Michael Douglas.
IMO, it was Michael J Fox (love him, BTW).
The best lines were when MJF said it wasn't just his right to question the president, it was his duty. Also when he said people are so hungry for leadership, when they don't find it, they'll drink the sand (analogy, people searching for water in the desert).

note: This is from (often faulty) memory. Where did you find the text? I'd like to check my recollection.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:25 PM
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12. your memory is fine
the speech was on a website, not the script

remember the President answers Fox by saying, "they don't drink the sand because they're thirsty, they drink the sand cuz they don't know the difference"
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:29 PM
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14. You know..
I always thought it was an odd thing for Andrew Shepard to say. Agree overwhelmingly that this is an excellent movie.

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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:55 PM
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16. I agree, I love Aaron Sorkin.
He's wonderful with words. :)
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:00 PM
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18. It's a great film
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 08:03 PM by high density
I agree with the earlier posters that the anti-gun rhetoric is lame, but overall I like the movie. I wish Warner Brothers would release a new DVD of it because the current one looks like garbage.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:20 PM
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19. Wouldn't it be swell if presidents acted like that in real life?
Sigh.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:46 PM
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20. Great movie! n/t
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:49 PM
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21. Never more timely
The themes in this movie are more timely now then when the movie first came out. Every time I see this movie I can only yearn for the day when we truly will have a statesman like President who not only think but make independent decisions.
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