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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:11 PM
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does anyone else have a problem with scubbies approval ratings drop?
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 08:12 PM by rpannier
I need someone to enlighten me (I live in Korea).
Since taking office scrubbie has used up all the good will that the US had around the world making it less safe for Americans overseas. He has presided over the worst economy in 75 years. He either manipulated intelligence, or outright lied, to go to war in Iraq. The post war handling of Iraq has been an almost complete disaster. He has lied time-and-again to get his policies through (or try to get them through) Social Security Reform, Medicare Reform, etc.
But...the Schiavo case has seriously wounded his approval ratings. To me this seems less important than the above mentioned. He should have been gone a long time ago. This just doesn't make any sense to me.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:13 PM
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1. Yep. Yer right.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:14 PM
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2. The straw that broke the camel's back perhaps? The folks that
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 08:17 PM by rzemanfl
did vote intentionally for that asshole (don't get me started on the other votes) did so because they thought he'd protect them from terrorists, not waste his time meddling in already decided court cases and a family feud.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:14 PM
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3. Nothing coming from this country
makes any sense anymore. :shrug: I wish I could help you, we are trying but.....
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:15 PM
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4. Look on the bright side.... our international standing simply
cannot get any worse... so from here it has no place to go but up... and his ratings? Screw his ratings. He doesn't deserve any ratings.

In fact, I think he should be rated on past performance... because it is a pretty good predictor of future performance.

His role as governor of Tx should suffice.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:15 PM
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5. It is mind boggling
Guess it tripped the fundies trigger which pushed the bushes to make a fool of themselves. Whatever, I'm lovin' it. Will it last?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:15 PM
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6. The straw that tilted the balance.
It's pretty obvious to so many people that there seem to be an awful lot of "Pro-Lifers" who are all hysterical about TS, but haven't said a darn think about SUFFERING and DEAD Iraqi children.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:17 PM
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7. Doesn't make sense to...
... a lot of people. :) But, what Bush has generated is a tremendous sense of militarism and nationalism in the country, and that has caused the public to either ignore, dispute or deny all the very obvious things you point out, in favor of patriotic sympathies.

Pay particular attention to the last paragraph in this article. It might explain why everything seems upside-down lately:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0325-26.htm

Cheers.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:29 PM
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8. I agree that those ratings should have been no higher than 2 percent
at any given moment in his presidency, accept the day he gave that speech to the rescuers at the twin towers site. However, the American sheeple (fundamentalist Christians and the ignorant) have no excuse other than they are delusional, suffering from 911 PTSD, and/or uncaring. Surprisingly, that accounts for a VERY large number of people in this country right now! 911 did that for people here. Americans are too busy to actually go through the entire grieving process so they stick to the anger and denial phases. The first two in the grieving process are where all these people remained stuck until they watched their congress and their president make ONE dying woman such a high priority they flew in from everywhere, did a little grandstanding and then slunk back into the woodwork and leaked a pack of lies that THEY didn't want to do it in the first place.

IMHO, this has shaken a few of the simply misled away from the criminally insane. Hopefully, some of them have decided autopilot is no longer sufficient and decided to keep a closer eye on things. All ANY American ever had to do was pay attention, but Post Traumatic Stress Disorder made them NOT want to. It was unsettling, to say the least for people who, up until that moment, believed this country was invincible!
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:03 PM
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9. not to difficult to explain
Well, for one thing, the self-inflicted wound is the worst kind.

More likely is that the rationalizations by conservatives and nonpartisans requires Bush to go wrong on almost everything they find important before they decide he's the problem rather than The Solution. When a politician absolutely represents the Traditional Way of doing things, s/he gets all the benefit of the doubt in everything touched. But when that leads to failure, as it usually does in a world that has changed from the Past, this benefit of the doubt with nonpartisans in the department involved is lost. Conservative politicians then go on to the next exploitable department or issue, the benefit of the doubt is re-extended by non-partisans, and the cycle repeats. The trouble begins when the bottom of the barrel is reached, when the issues to exploit become too few and bad, i.e. only increasingly marginal ones remain. And if you play this game, you can't stop- the effects of the bad policies pushed through start to catch up. The distraction effect involved changes from political opportunity to political necessity the longer the game goes on. Right now the miscalculation on the Schiavo thing has made Bush vulnerable to what has been stirred up in matters Iraq and the economy. Plus, Bush has played Social Security against his elderly November electorate and to the youngest voters, the demographic that voted against him by majority.

A third way of looking at it is that Dubya went too far to the Right to scrape through the November election. The swing voters let him do that. Now that he has started to give the far Right the payoffs it demands, swing voters are punishing him- too late, but better than never.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:09 PM
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10. i wonder about that myself...
with all the control these bozos possess why let these low numbers come out now? Surely if they can suppress exit poll data they can influence poll #'s. Of course, these days everything is a 'conspiracy' in my world. And, I'm thinking if this info is released now, it makes it seem as though its all about the Schiavo's rather than the fact that they stole the election.
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