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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:47 AM
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Terri Schiavo's parents find a way to make a buck off their dead daughter
Jesus H. Christ these people have some nerve.

:grr:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/politics/29donate.html?oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=

The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.

"These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!"

Privacy experts said the sale of the list was legal and even predictable, if ghoulish.

"I think it's amusing," said Robert Gellman, a privacy and information policy consultant. "I think it's absolutely classic America. Everything is for sale in America, every type of personal information


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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:49 AM
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1. oh, but michaeL schiavo
is the eviL monster in this. he's the one Living Like a pLayboy and aduLterating. these poor parents are broke - they've spent aLL of their money trying to Litigate her daughter into permanent vegetation.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:52 AM
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2. Well, he made money of her as well. Don't you recall the malpractice
trial?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:55 AM
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5. They Said on NPR The Other Day...
...that it was something like a million-dollar settlement. Michael got 300 grand for loss of his wife's companionship. The balance went toward her medical care, and I'm sure the costs have exceeded that by now.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:38 AM
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27. Most definietly
He's almost out of money and she's on medicaid (that Bush is cutting) so if it wasn't for all the lawsuit money she wouldn't have ever been in hospitals for fifteen years.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:57 AM
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6. He has divested himself of that money.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 09:00 AM by Dhalgren
Of anything left over from the 700k for her treatment.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:07 AM
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11. He was asking for money promising to take care of her
for the rest of his life. Now, that didn't happen, did it?
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chopper Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:12 AM
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14. that depends...
i consider her life to have ended about 15 years ago, personally.

besides, how hasn't he taken care of her?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:13 AM
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16. And the money was spent on her and her interests.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:21 AM
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23. I have heard that before...
any link/proof on that or are you just going by statements made by MS?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:38 AM
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28. You've heard WHAT before?
The money was placed in a trust NOT administered by Mr Schiavo.

He had to ask for any funds spent from it.

What do you want proof of?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:17 AM
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19. Wow, someone must have really broken their promise to you.
Because I don't know how you can hate him, mock him, and discuss him as if you have personal knowledge of what he has and hasn't done for his wife in the last 15 years.

You might want to get therapy for that.
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shrub chipper Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:57 AM
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7. Don't you think there is a small bit of difference
between a Malpractice Verdict and selling a list of sucker's ...er, I mean , donor's names without their knowledge and consent??
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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:01 AM
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8. re: money
$150,000 went to pay for treatment. Virtually the rest went to legal fees (around $550,000). All that's left is around $40,000-50,000.

I've read that he volunteered to step aside as the administrator and even volunteered to donate whatever funds were left over to any charity specified by the Schindler's (no link but this info was contained in numerous articles I've read over the past several days).

He's refused to accept money ($700,000 from the Schindler's, $1 million from an individual, and I believe there was a $10 million offer but not sure about this one).

You can read whatever you want to in that, but that doesn't sound like someone after money.

And here's a point that rarely mentioned, back when there was $700,000+ in the trust fund, if Michael had divorced her and walked away, that would have left the Schindler's the heir's of that fund.

You don't see the Schiavo's accusing the Schindler's of trying to go after the money do you?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:03 AM
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9. it's my mother-in-Law!
when did you sign onto DU kathy?

i heard he put that settLement money up his nose, and spent the rest on hookers.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:04 AM
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10. The malpractice trial was almost entirely about HER, not him,
And there was a small amount of the award for him because he was WRONGED.

He didn't make money in this sort of crass way.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:09 AM
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12. Yep. It was about her and her care-for the rest of his life.
She was supposed to live 50 years. Now, she didn't make it to 50 years, did she?
And Mr. Schiavo isn't going to take care of her for the rest of his life, did he?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:12 AM
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13. But he is taking care of her for the rest of her life.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 09:12 AM by mondo joe
And her funds have been administered by a trust, not by Michael Schiavo, and spent in her interest.
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shrub chipper Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:12 AM
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15. and you would WANT her to live like that
for 50 years?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:14 AM
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17. That sounds barbaric.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 09:14 AM by Ripley
You think that Mrs. Schiavo herself if asked when she was young and healthy if she would want to live in a PVS for 65 years, she would have said "yes?"

Ghoulish, I tell you.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:17 AM
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21. Isn't it funny how some want to experiment on Terri to see how long
they can extend her in a state of suspended death against her will, but call others Nazis?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:20 AM
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22. It's not really funny, but Dr. Mengala-ish.
I can't decide if it's just your typical trolls coming out, or if they are seriously disturbed people who had something awful done to them by a husband and they are out for this fantasy revenge on Mr. Schiavo. :shrug:
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:25 AM
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24. Gee....I'll tell that to..
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 09:26 AM by drdon326



Ralph Nader
Tom Harken
The CBC
jESSE jACKSON
Rev. Al Sharpton
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:27 AM
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25. Gee....politicians never do anything for political reasons.
Since when did Ralph Nader become the arbiter of truth on DU? Hah!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:36 AM
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26. One of them had a rant about how she knows husbands can't be trusted.
Which just goes to show, hatting men doesn't make you a feminist.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:39 AM
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30. Yeah I heard that one too.
And as far as Jackson, Sharpton and any other Dems or liberals? All I can say is look at the IWR. Lots of people take positions against reason and logic for their own political purposes.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:17 AM
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20. Of course he's not keeping his promise to take care of her.
but the malpractice jury bought that hook,line and sinker.

Lets see...

Hes got the money early on.
hes got a new babe.
he will shortly re-marry.
Hes got a helluve lawyer.

What promise was he supposed to keep again ?

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:39 AM
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29. He is taking care of her by carrying out her wishes
when she can't.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:40 AM
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31. He promised her that he would not allow her to
live on as a vegetable. He promised her that he would not let that happen. Maybe a promise like that means nothing to you, but to a loving couple who are actually committed to one another, it means a great deal. And don't give me this shit about "he has a girlfriend"! That whole argument is so stupidly juvenile as to be insulting to any adult with a modicum of intelligence. My suggestion to all of the "Terri Lurkers": get a life; and make it your own, this time....
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:46 AM
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32. LOL
Great last two lines. I absolutely agree. These same old tired arguments make me feel like I'm arguing with that 10 year old who was arrested down there. Parroting nonsense.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:34 PM
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33. Works both ways.
.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:14 AM
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18. Does that make this RIGHT?
Are you seriously saying that the malpractice award given to her husband justifies her parents naked greed?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:53 AM
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3. This Needs to Be Publicized Far and Wide
It seems like the Schindlers only had their falling out with Michael Schaivo after the awarding of the court settlement. They appear to have dollar signs in their eyes - not the interests of their daughter.

Also, look for them to write a book that will be hawked constantly on Faux News.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:54 AM
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4. It would be amusing, except that these people aren't rational.
As long as they have a cause to rally around, they'll be in our faces. That's a great opportunity for the RW noise machine, but not such a good thing for the rest of us. There have already been death threats ...
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