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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:25 AM
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Take the Bible Knowledge Quiz....
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 10:28 AM by iconoclastNYC
http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/bquiz.php

The next some time some Christian starts running their mouth of about why gays can't have equal rights because the bible says it's bad I'm going to ask them see what they say about these bible dictates.

Who decides where the bible got it wrong and the bible got it right?

What is the penalty for working on the Sabbath?
You will be stoned to death. --Isn't this an excessively violent punishment from a supposedly "Good Book?" What is the harm in working on the Sabbath? It seems the only harm is to the ego of the Sovereign, who demands respect with no respect to human needs.

"Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whoseoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day." (Exodus 35:2) For the chilling application of this law, see Numbers 15:32-36, where a man who picked up sticks on the sabbath was stoned, "and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses."

How should parents treat a stubborn and rebellious son?

He should be stoned to death. --This cruelly excessive Mosaic law was actually enforced at one time by the Massachusetts colony and has been used to justify child abuse and murder.

What happens if you are not a virgin on your wedding night?
You will be stoned to death. --This barbaric punishment is still being followed in some parts of the Moslem world, which share some of the teachings of the Hebrew bible. There is no such penalty, needless to say, for a groom who is not a virgin. The fact that Christian women who have engaged in premarital sex are not being stoned to death today shows that even believers recognize cruelty and absurdity in their own "Good Book."

According to the bible, who created evil?
God. --Now we know who is to blame.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7)

The word "create" above is bara, the same word used in Genesis 1:1. The word "evil" is ra, such as in Genesis 2:9, "the tree of knowledge of good and evil." Some versions, such as the NIV, have unjustifiably softened the implications of this verse by translating ra as "disaster" or "calamity," although ra is used repeatedly throughout scripture to refer to moral evil. (See Isaiah 7:14-15: "Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil , and choose the good.") But even if the "disaster" interpretation were allowable, the verse still depicts God as a troublemaker.

I'm sorry call me what you want, but Christianity, like all religions, was created by man to control simple minds. You need only look to the Republican party to see this is action.

NOT THAT ALL Christians are simple! Not that I don't think you should be able to believe in your myths and your vision of a sky omniscient sky god who lives in the clouds.

But to see the Bible as anything more then an instrument in the biggest fraud of all mankind is ridiculous. Just look at what we have to do to keep from just throwing it out completely. It's more redacted than a CIA FOIA document. "I love the Bible! It's the word sacred word of God! Well not that part, or that part, oh don't take that literally, or that, no that's just a parable."

I was raised vaguely Christian...was taught about how Jesus was about love and tolerance but the Bible says that Jesus thought slavery was just fine? The inconsistencies just make Christianity loose all credibility in my mind.

Why do we need this book and these fables and all these people who derive power by peddling myths and superstition to raise our children to be moral and right? We don't. Religion is a scam. And I'm not a bigot for saying so.

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:26 AM
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1. godhatesshrimp.com! n/t
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:26 AM
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2. Wasn't there a song... "Whole lotta stoning going on"? n/t
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:44 AM
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10. That was "everybody must get stoned..." n/t
n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:28 AM
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:32 AM
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4. Why did God change his mind?
Did he hate people back then?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:33 AM
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5. Helpful Hint...
There's a little button marked, "Check Spelling" below
the text box.

It's "Testament"...

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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:33 AM
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6. There is the stock answer.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 10:35 AM by iconoclastNYC
Oh it's the old testament!

And like any cult, the answer to dealing with inconsistencies found in the cult is to engage in more indoctrination (Theology).

How do you ignore the fact Jesus, the "son of god", thought that slavery was just swell and dandy, and that you should beat your slaves just enough to keep them in line.

This from the "son of God"?

And what of the rank sexism in both the old testament and the new testament? Women are property of men in the good book and would be still if we followed biblical law.

Just face it, Religion and the Bible are made up by men. It's not the word of God.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:35 AM
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7. This is true, now answer me this.
Why do fundies want to slap the 10 Commandments up everywhere when Jesus effectively got rid of them with his Sermon on the Mount?
Jesus says there are only TWO: Love God and love your neighbor.

Hmmmm?
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:47 AM
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11. Hey, Clark2008!
Yeah, if we could ever learn to follow the golden rule we wouldn't need to argue over the commandments or anything else.

By the way, how's the job hunt going?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:15 AM
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22. It's going OK
I have a bit of a dilemma though.
I have a job interview today - it's not all that great in the pay department, but my recruiter wants me to go because she says its a great company.
However, I have a second interview on Thursday for a job I actually want to do, but I'm not sure if I actually have the job, so I don't NOT want to go on the lesser-paying job interview. The lesser paying job people probably will hire fairly quickly.
What should I do?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:37 AM
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8. When you guys stop demanding to post the 10 Commandments...
Then we'll stop, too.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:42 AM
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9. I bet the Christians on DU are NOT the ones who want 10C in courthouses.
Let's be careful not to tar with too broad a brush.

:hippie:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:53 AM
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13. Thank you! n/t
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:51 AM
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12. and can you explain exacty how that worked?
So the son of god--a concept in and of itself that doesn't makes sense--dies (which he really doesn't because Christ himself is a god)and somehow reduces my intrinsic sinfulness two thousand years hence.

Please describe that process.
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Done Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:48 AM
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26. I understand it differently.
The way I understand it is that there is one God. Being the son of God means that God sent part of Himself into the body of Christ. Christ was perfect and deserved eternal life. In the end Christ will discard His flesh and go back to God and again be one with God. It then becomes fair and reasonable for us to discard our flesh so that the love within us is judged as a separate being. We become two people, with our flesh judged for what it did, and the spirit or love within us being judged for what it did. The spirit or love within us is found perfect, so our spirit combined with our self or ego has earned eternal life. This means that Christ is not responsible for our thoughts and actions, but that Christ provides a way for all those who possess love for others to receive eternal life in a world were everyone loves each other. Since this redemption is a free gift for all who possess love for others, it is provided to all who possess love for others regardless of their religious or non-religious beliefs.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:56 AM
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:00 AM
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16. and no. more like 90% of Americans belong to
one religious faith or another. Not 90% are christians.

Get your stats right.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:03 AM
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:16 AM
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23. The term God IS a christian terminology when given the
Proper noun God, as opposed to god(s).
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:04 AM
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20. maybe 70% believe in the resurrection of Jesus.
Some statistic I just saw bouncing around during the annual holy week religion hoopla.
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:58 AM
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15. someone left the door open again...
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:26 AM
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25. What a bunch of crock.
Crock, crock, crock.

Of all the religious myths in the world, this is one of the most ridiculous.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:02 AM
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17. I was a stubborn and rebelious son
and stoned most of the time

but I survived
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:03 AM
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19. Congratulations! You scored 50 correct out of 50!
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 11:12 AM by Walt Starr
40 - 50: Wow! You know more than a minister, priest, or rabbi!

I've read the Bible many times in several translations, although I do not count reading The Book or The Living Bible as actually having read the Bible.

Watch out for any Bible with the word New in the title.
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:12 AM
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21. Liberal Christians are well aware of the rough and ready
bronze-age origins of their faith. It is important to remember that the revelation of God through history and through the scriptures is progressive. So in the Torah, we learn that breaking the Sabbath is a crime punishable by death. The Torah represents Judaism maybe 1500 BCE. But by the time we get to Isaiah (circa 600 BCE), we read that God doesn't want burnt sacrifices and temple ceremonies -- he wants the poor and widows to be taken care of, and he wants the legal system to be fair and non-corrupt. (Isaiah chapter 1.)

The hordes of fundamentalists in this country have done far too good a job convincing everyone that being a Christian means believing in the inerrancy of the Bible or taking it literally. Episcopalians and many other Christians do neither. Our understanding of God goes beyond the scriptures -- it was Christian activists that spearheaded the abolitionist movement in the US, even though there's nothing directly against slavery in the Bible.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:25 AM
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24. The "What type of Superhero" type of quizzes are much funner....
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