So 80% oppose the fundies in the Schiavo matter

[LoganW]

yet this radical minority can consume the entire nation at will. I think this is part of what they were doing. Testing to see if they could get this kind of national stage practically on whim.

They seem so shocked that once they did, however, 80% of the nation opposed them. Are they truly this out of touch? Do they really believe any sizable amount of the nation wants a theocracy?

I think this is perhaps the biggest indication of rigged elections. When 80% of the nation are against these people yet they have almost total control of the government...

[whistle]

1. Ohooo, well the polls must be biased

[Dez]

2. They truly believe

that God's on their side.. no way to convince them otherwise. Self will run riot, is how you can describe them. They didn't like the court's decision, so they went beyond the courts. They want what they want, when they want it, plain and simple.

[Asirac]

8. Right

And they figure they put BushCo in office so now they want what they feel is their due.

[Walt Starr]

3. 20% enforcing the will of the theocratic dictators.

That's about right, historically speaking.

[mondo joe]

4. And the MSM can describe the US as "deeply divided"

which is an odd way to describe an 80/20 split, IMO.

[Bouncy Ball]

5. I always knew the really hardcore ones were a tiny minority.

Here's where the REAL trouble lays, though: even moderate people and institutions have been veering right in the last several years.

Methodist churches in my neck of the woods, for instance: thirty years ago you wouldn't even be able to recognize them compared to today. Even from ten years ago! Now, they are getting quite conservative (it's different in different areas, of course, I am only speaking of my area). So conservative, we were no longer comfortable there and left.

People, too, fall prey to it.

BUT the 80% plus who were firmly against the fundies told me one thing: the fundies can and eventually will go too damn far for MOST of us, republicans, democrats, independents, etc.

Actually we NEED them to go too far. That is the only way the rest of America will wake up and say "WTF?" and start taking away the influence and voices they seem to have now way out of proportion to their numbers.

That voice and influence out of proportion to their numbers is thanks to the republican party deciding to pander to them several years back and has REALLY gotten worse under bush. His administration gave $ 3 BILLION worth of taxpayer money to fundie churches in 2003. If that won't make you feel emboldened, nothing will. Thing is, the bushies up at the top don't REALLY agree with the fundies, they're just using them like a $5 whore. And the day the fundies figure this out (and I think a lot of eyes were opened with Schiavo) will be a bad day for the republican party.

[stillcool]

6. Without watching even one minute of this.......

'made-for-tv' extravaganza it has still scared the bejesus out of me. There must be some method to the madness, and that thought alone.,,scared sh*tless in the United States of Jesus

[grannylib]

7. They are a tiny minority that has an enormous ability to mobilize and make

themselves appear to be a groundswell of sorts.
It's pathetic; it's as manufactured as the fortunes made and lost on the stock market. Houses of cards with power far disproportionate to their wispy nature.
That's what we need to build. What the conservatives and fundies and neo-cons did through the churches, we need to duplicate. Those of us who are people of faith need to use our relationships within those communities to organize the like-minded; others need to do the same, whether it's the gym or the coffee shop or the university or library or wherever. We need to be able to swarm elected officials and media outlets with the kinds of numbers that these nutjobs claim.

[chomskyite_naderite]

9. those were only the first polls

the corporate media has been working on shifting public opinion on this, trying to make a wedge issue out of it. I would bet that opinion is now more like 60-40. If it had gone on a bit longer they would have it down to 55-45. It may yet get there.