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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:54 PM
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Man, this is all eerily familiar
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 07:55 PM by leftofthedial
early in a term:

the little bushturd's approval ratings are in the tank

his pet initiatives are going nowhere in Congress or in the rest of the country

the economy is clearly in the toilet

repuke leaders are in ethics hot water

serious questions linger about the validity of the recent "election"

Kind of reminds me of the Summer of 2001.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:56 PM
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1. Hey, maybe that little war brewing with Mexico is what
needed to perk up his numbers.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:02 PM
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7. or maybe some outrageous act of Mexican "terrorism"?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:13 PM
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12. If they are brown, they are guilty.
Ya know Bush can't piss off those good ole boys now. He still needs their vote even with cheating. There is only so much you can get away with, without being blatanly obvious. That goes for the fundiloonies too.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:28 PM
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32. Judge men by the color of their petroleum, not their skin.
Bush wants that light crude under all those Mexicans.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:16 PM
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35. judged by the "color of their petroleum" lol that's funny
:toast:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:23 PM
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41. Ooooh. I forgot about the oil.
:wow:
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:56 PM
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2. My Only Suggestion is
if you work in large buildings...

consider skipping work for the next couple of weeks....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:58 PM
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3. I would be weary
and listen for any rumors you might hear and take them seriously (I know I'm paranoid). I was thinking of this myself and wondering. It definietly is errie. Don't forget he still wants war and nobody is joining up.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:58 PM
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4. time for a month-long vacation
followed by a saudi homicide bomber attack and an invasion of iran!

they gots wmd thar too! bring it on!

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 07:59 PM
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5. That's worrisome. If this reminds you of the summer of 2001...
there will be another Terra Lert soon -- at least. They need the Chimpinator to stand on another pile of rubble with a bullhorn, telling us he's a strong, manly War Prezdint.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:35 PM
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20. Fool me once shame on you, duh, uh, mumble, duh you can't
fool me again. Half the country will not be buying that bill of goods from the chimp a second time.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:02 PM
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27. I haven't heard of a terror alert in a long time
Last one I remember hearing about was the one in Ohio (:eyes:). I guess since Bush "won" re-election he doesn't need them since the republicans control everything.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 03:49 AM
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51. Notice how the corporate/government media has said
little about the color coded "terror" alerts since November 2?

I suspect that as summer approaches and the congress critters gear up for the 2006 "elections" there will be more mention of "terror" alerts and terrorism. Gotta keep people scared so the Dems wont challenge the Republicans on their record you know. Not that the Dems WOULD challenge the Republicans on their record, that would take a SPINE and few Dems have one of those.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:01 PM
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6. Terra alert!
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:56 PM
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25. Indeed! What has happened to all the terror alerts?
Is the war on terrism over? Who won?

Ohhhhhhhhhh.....the election is over. Of course.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:20 PM
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37. mere coincidence?
or something more?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:04 PM
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8. Many folks are angry enough to commit terrorism against the US
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 08:06 PM by Selatius
There will be a blowback to the war in Iraq. It's served as a recruitment poster for the likes of Osama and other extremists. If there is another terrorist attack, I think of what Bush and Co. can do.

They could push through more authoritarian Patriot Acts and further erode civil liberties to "fight terrorism." They pushed the 2nd one through when everyone was too busy covering Saddam's capture.

They could push through a military draft using the "rally 'round the flag" patriotism that'll come about in the aftermath of an attack. "Make the world safe for freedom! Uncle Sam wants you!"

They might even get enough juice going to push through martial law over metropolitan areas in the name of securing cities from further attacks. Has anyone tried securing jetliners that carry mail instead of passengers? Wouldn't it be easier to hijack a plane without a population of passengers willing to struggle?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:06 PM
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9. why would they wait for a "natural" act of terrorism to occur?
when they can so easily control the timing, location and nature of an "attack"?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:11 PM
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11. You're more likely to leave fingerprints if you do it yourself
Just keep flattening entire nations and reducing cities to rubble. Eventually, someone will go out and do it himself without you doing it yourself. It's the same end. It's just more subtle than Hitler's method, which was to do it himself.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:06 PM
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10. But Dubya is keeping us safe, right?
Another terraist tack would prove his is incompetent and not doing what he promised, to "keep America safe".
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:31 PM
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17. he's a lame duck
they have 45% of Murkans still believing that up is down and black is white

wait 'til you see what they do with a bunch of flag-waving outrage to mislead
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:48 PM
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22. Leave the ducks out of it ...... he's just lame
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:24 PM
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30. LOL!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:06 PM
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28. Right
I wonder if they'd do something though. How are they going to get people to join the military? They can't have a draft because Bush made a campaign promise and it'd be very political suicide since there were a lot of rumors going around and everything. If Bush does do another attack would it make things even worse for him? Since Cheney did go around and say if you choose the wrong person you could get attacked. So I wonder.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:19 PM
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29. New Poster...Join the Army and get free gas to drive your Humvee!
in the desert of Iraq <~~~~ Small print.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 09:26 PM
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31. the little bushturd could bugger a goat on prime time TV
and 45% of Murkans would still support him. They have no qualms about lying. A draft will happen. they'll rationalize it somehow, the Murkan media will repeat the lies for a few days, then Murka will go on down the toilet as if nothing happened.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:42 PM
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33. Guess that would just prove they chose the wrong person...
Not that he actually WON the election, but quite a few people fell for his bullshit.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 02:25 AM
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44. Bush doesn't need to get re-elected
There will be a draft. The question is not whether, but when.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:15 PM
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13. Yup, it's deja vu, all over again. nt
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:18 PM
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14. Aaaargh, reading your post gave me a HUGE
chill down my spine. Shook my whole body. The chill's not passed YET.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:27 PM
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15. Anyone hear bout TX Oil Refineries Blowing up
it's the kind of information that got exchanged in a birmingham gas station, I was telling this particular FoodMart Gas station clerk that I am totally shocked by the increasing gas price.

He very calmly said, 'the gas price will be $3.00 by July', I asked where he heard it from, he said from his gas supplier.. so I then said, why is it so high? He said he heard that some oil refineries in Texas had blown up, but that this guy was emphatic with the store clerk that it was NOT TERRORISM to cause the explosions..

has anyone heard about these TX explosions? in other words, are we having terrorism already and the *Co FakeStream Media are just not publicizing it because it will prove they have not kept us safe from terrorism... that's my fear... it's already happening in lots of little ways and no press about it.....

either way, I"m going to go looking for news of these TX oil refineries blowing up......if I don't find it, who do you think I'll believe guy on the street or our lovely US media?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 02:27 AM
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45. There has only been one
at a plant in Texas City. It was a poorly maintained but very important plant. Who knows if it was terrorism, it could just as well have been corporate refusal to keep maintenance up.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 02:42 AM
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46. how did the media handle it?
and could this be the reason our gas prices are rising so rapidly?
I have to think there are other causes converging at the moment... causes we'll never hear about in our 'fake-stream' media....
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:44 AM
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56. It happened during the Terri watch and media was covering nothing else.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:28 PM
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16. This summer
I expect a UN resolution and some bombing. Hope I'm wrong.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:32 PM
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18. more in the Middle East
Or will big oil's eye turn toward our own hemisphere?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:41 AM
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55. This hemisphere is already being worked on
through covert activities. This is neocon more than big oil. Venezuela would cut oil flow to Texas refineries.
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:32 PM
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19. And just watch repukes "win" again in 2008. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:38 PM
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21. repeat after me
2000 was a COUP.
2000 was a COUP.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:58 PM
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26. 2000 was a coup.
We just down believe anyone would do something so...so...third world HERE.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 02:45 AM
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48. I prefer SILENT REVOLUTIONARY coup D' etat
but coup is fine also....

2000 was a coup
2000 was a big bad coup
2004 was an even funnier, bigger louder and with more fraud coup

***
2006 will be the year of the people

and so the people have spoken....
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:03 PM
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54. Nuh uh.
I don't ever grant them title to "revolutionary."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 10:43 PM
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34. 2000 was a coup
2004 was flat out theft
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:22 PM
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40. they no longer feel the need to respect anything
not the truth

not the people

not the Constitution

certainly not the vote

not the utter depravity of killing their own citizens for their own personal political and monetary gain
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 02:46 AM
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49. 2006 The Year of the Pissed off People
and I mean really pissed off..

like lawsuits pissed off....
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 02:43 AM
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47. not by the lack of hair
on my chinny chin chin....

or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow their house of cards down.....
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:56 PM
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23. That just gave me chills. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 08:56 PM
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24. Alert: Stay Out of Tall Buildings!!!!! Alert
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:18 PM
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36. You said it. I'm ready to take to the streets, are you? (nt)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 03:31 AM
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50. i'm in the streets
or will be in a few weeks
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:21 PM
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38. CIAO: absent a single overarching threat on which to build consensus...

Mapping the Global Future:


Report of the National Intelligence Council's 2020 Project



Pervasive Insecurity (PDF, 15 pages, 328.7 KB)
http://www.ciaonet.org/wps/dod99/dod99h.pdf

...

Finally, as the Pax Americana scenario
suggests, the United States may be
increasingly confronted with the challenge
of managing—at an acceptable cost to
itself
—relations with Europe, Asia, the
Middle East and others, absent a single
overarching threat on which to build
consensus.


source...


December 2004

U.S. Government

Executive Summary

At no time since the formation of the Western alliance system in 1949 have the shape and nature of international alignments been in such a state of flux. The end of the Cold War shifted the tectonic plates, but the repercussions from these momentous events are still unfolding. Emerging powers in Asia, retrenchment in Eurasia, a roiling Middle East, and transatlantic divisions are among the issues that have only come to a head in recent years. The very magnitude and speed of change resulting from a globalizing world—apart from its precise character—will be a defining feature of the world out to 2020. Other significant characteristics include: the rise of new powers, new challenges to governance, and a more pervasive sense of insecurity, including terrorism. As we map the future, the prospects for increasing global prosperity and the limited likelihood of great power conflict provide an overall favorable environment for coping with what are otherwise daunting challenges. The role of the United States will be an important variable in how the world is shaped, influencing the path that states and nonstate actors choose to follow.



Table of Contents

*

Front Pages, Table of Contents (PDF, 12 pages, 757.3 KB)
*

Executive Summary (PDF, 10 pages, 59.2 KB)
*

Methodology (PDF, 5 pages, 33.8 KB)
*

Introduction (PDF, 2 pages, 242 KB)
*

Contradictions of Globalization (PDF, 19 pages, 1.12 MB)
o An Expanding and Integrating Global Economy
o The Technology Revolution
o Lingering Social Inequalities
o Fictional Scenario: Davos World
*

Rising Powers: The Changing Geopolitical Landscape (PDF, 24 pages, 2.14 MB)
o Rising Asia
o Other Rising States?
o The "Aging" Powers
o Growing Demands for Energy
o US Unipolarity—How Long Can It Last?
o Fictional Scenario: Pax Americana
*

New Challenges to Governance (PDF, 19 pages, 1.61 MB)
o Halting Progress on Democratization
o Identity Politics
o Fictional Scenario: A New Caliphate
*

Pervasive Insecurity (PDF, 15 pages, 328.7 KB)
o Transmuting International Terrorism
o Intensifying Internal Conflicts
o Rising Powers: Tinder for Conflict?
o The WMD Factor
o Fictional Scenario: Cycle of Fear
*

Policy Implications (PDF, 10 pages, 121.6 KB)

http://www.ciaonet.org/main/feature02frm.html



looks like PNAC got a few few fans in academia as well :crazy:

peace
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. Peace we need. ... thank you. n/t
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:21 PM
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39. somethings up
Remember though, they can always blame Clinton.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Of course
And of course people would believe it. :eyes: It gets really old.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 03:51 AM
Response to Reply #39
52. They get by with it because the Democrats are
very poor in opposing Bush. If the Dems blamed Bush the way the pugs blame Clinton, the pugs would circle the wagons around their boy.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 08:19 PM
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53. They're screwing up everything they do. A "surprise" will blow up in ...
...their faces. They are finished and they know it. It's just a matter of how much they can steal before they're thrown out and how many that they can pardon before * is "resigned."
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:12 AM
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57. Yes, just a little way too familiar! Add in a dash of Delay and the
mix gets toxic and explosive! Damned it all leftofthedial! I really didn't need the reminder this morning!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:15 AM
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58. I know. I'm prepared for a LIHOP/MIHOP. *sigh* n/t
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