Wolf just smacked down by Begala

[monobrau]

Wolf made some snide remark about Begala being a liberal, and Begala pounced. Nailed him for trying to equate liberal with anti-religion.
Anybody else catch it?

[Fenris]

1. Wolf? Wolf who?

[democracyindanger]

2. Quit crying wolf.

[Eric J in MN]

39. I assume Wolf Blitzer (nt)

nt

[Cleita]

3. Begala is growing a new set of cojones?

Amazing after he handed his old ones gift wrapped to CNN.

[Pirate Smile]

4. The douchebags comment about Clinton seducing 41 and 43 cracked

me up.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. Asswipe said "don't be so sensitive" when Begala smacked him down

I hate these fuckers

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Oh good grief

I'm glad someone called him on that. And I HATE when we call them on their b.s. they come back and play "victim" again. :grr: Stupid pricks!

[seabeyond]

21. let me call you on your christianity, but dont be offended

they really say htis too, the republicans. i am now telling te republicans around me it pisses me off when they say i am not christian. it does they ask in surprise. assholes

[Eloriel]

25. No offense, but here's what you AND Begala should hve said

It's fine to challenge them on the "not a Christian" thing, but that's really and truly falling for the bait, BAD.

What's WRONG, for example, with NOT being a Christian? Or, put another way, are all you "good LIBERAL Christians" now ready to throw over us NON-Christians? Sure as hell the way it sounds to me.

Let me remind you that religious freedom most certainly DOES include the right to be free FROM religion -- of any and all kinds -- too. If not, the First Amendment means absolutely nothing and isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

All you "good" Christians better pay heed, and fast. If you don't stand up for the right NOT to be Christian, you with your "not good enough" Christianity are equally in danger.

[July]

28. Excellent point, Eloriel. nt

[Proud2BAmurkin]

30. Uh, Begala had no obligation to defend "non Christians" if he.........

if he identifies himself as a Catholic and he was told he probably wasn't a "good Catholic." If he thinks being a good Catholic is better than being a bad Catholic or a non Christian WHICH HE OBVIOUSLY DOES seeing that he is a Catholic, he has every right to call Blitzer on his slur against him AS A CATHOLIC.

[seabeyond]

37. you are making a lot of assumptions to make your arguement

but that is cool and i can handle. i sit in a religious belt. kids in christian school. not only do i challenge the "good christians" which isnt a label on liberals, it is what the fundies use, to their face, am i a good christian. the ones that know me, and know i dont follow their rules, yet i walk the walk, and let them say out loud, yes, and further into christian talk, i absolutely challenge all christians, this is not a nation under god, it is a nation of christians and equally a nations of those that are not. and we are not america until the good christians understand and live by this. i absolutely defend your right each and every step not to be a part of the under god stuff. i have been fighting for alls right to make their individual choice, in respect. this is not a challenge for me.

but, when talking to the people that know me, that will chat with their friends about the horrid liberals with no christian value need to stop a minute and remember i am that evil they speak of

please dont create this into division when it doesnt have to be. i think the democratic party has been pretty consistant in representing people who do not believe in god, and do not want religious law to rule them. one of the challenges for democrats in supporting abortion and gay marriage. it is regardless of what religious belief one may have, we have no right to force that on another. i think the democratic party absolutely holds to this belief

now, may i as a christian challenge my right fellow christian in saying i am not a christian?

[July]

27. Classic bully's response when challenged.

"You're sensitive." Translation: "It had nothing to do with my aggression towards you, if you're upset it's your own fault."

[flordehinojos]

36. what could have been a good come back on Begala's part to that?

How could Begala have turned it back on Wolf or whoever said, "don't be so sensitive"?

Could he have said something like, Oh,your comment on Clinton and your underhanded put down of him goes without naming, but my calling truth to power you call sensitive?

[Syrinx]

7. Wolf had said "We have two Catholics with us."

Paraphrased: "Robert Novak, a good Catholic, and Paul Begala, who I'm not sure is such a good Catholic."

Begala was pissed!

[flamin lib]

8. I CAUGHT IT!!!!!

Paraphrasing:

Blitzer has Begala and Novak on and says "We have two good Catholics with us . . ." turns to Begala . . . "I know Robert is a good Catholic but I'm not sure of Paul . . ." at which point Begala goes semi ballistic.

"I'm a devout Catholic, my son is named John Paul after the Pope. I'm upset that I'm characterized as less devout because I'm liberal."

Paul goes on to point out the fact that John Paul II was liberal on as many points as he was conservative.

Gotta' love it! Begala was genuinely pissed off. Not a theatrical moment at all, really MAD at Blitzer.

[merbex]

9. Thanks for the detail n/t

[SiouxJ]

10. The nerve. Does he have any idea how many

Catholic Democrats there are? I hope they're watching. He just slapped them all in the face.

[rodeodance]

11. lordy lordy--now it is ok to blast people as good and bad Catholics !!

[Mandate My Ass]

12. Robert accessory-to-treason Novak is a "good Catholic?"

We truly live in Bizarro world now.

[Me.]

13. Well Yes

and he is especially considered one by those pain freaks over at Opus Dei. Go figure, people who beat themselves with whips and chains etc., now considered the epitome of desirability.

[Mandate My Ass]

18. Ah yes, I forgot them

Santorum and Scalia belong to that freakazoid cult......... ack!

Mental image, must erase!

[Arugula Latte]

33. I'll bet Novakula is in Opus Dei himself.

It would just fit, wouldn't it?

[Pacifist Patriot]

16. Glad it happened, but what I'd really like to see is...

a list of the points on which John Paul II was liberal. I can only come up with two. His conservative list is much much longer.

Good for Begala. I am so sick of liberal being equated with anti-religion. What a crock!

[Toots]

34. Well here are a few to consider

1979 the Pope came to America and he compared America to the rich man in the Bible story who is damned for all eternity after a life spent feasting and oblivious to Lazarus the begger who longed for scraps from his table. He said "It is not right that the standard of living of the rich countries should seek to maintain itself by draining off a great part of the reserves of energy and raw materials that are meant for all of humanity."

Last summer the Pope lectured American bishops that their people were "hypnotized by materialism, teetering before a soulless vision of the world"

In virtually all fields except those dealing with sex he was extremely Liberal as was his Christ. It was only in the areas of sex such as his stance on abortion, contraception, homosexuality, and anything that has anything at all to do with sex he was ultra conservative but when it came to health care, war, death penalty, over indulgence, and human rights he was on the same wave as us.

[Pacifist Patriot]

38. Thank you.

[tsuki]

24. Begala is correct. The judgement on who is a "good" Catholic

is not up to Wolf to make. He should apologize.

[July]

29. And how is Wolf the judge of how "good" any Catholic is? nt

[Cha]

40. Thanks! And not to mention

that novakula is a lyin' pos who doesn't think twice about outing a CIA agent if they're progressive!

[Swamp Rat]

14. Traitor Robert Novak is a good Catholic???

[Cleita]

17. Yes, in an Opus Dei sort of way.

I wonder where he wears his celice? It could explain while he's so nasty most of the the time.

:hurts:

[Behind the Aegis]

26. Exactly!!

Was Wolf saying that "good" Catholics commit treason?! Or that the other was a "bad" Catholic because he refused to betray the security of his country?!

[Octafish]

15. Blitzer's the turd who insisted Wellstone plane crash due to weather.

Wolf's a PNAC-licking, gold-digging presstitute.

[Clark2008]

19. I sent this info to Media Matters

I cannot believe the gall of Wolf Blitzer.

I'd fire his ass.

Of course, I never watch it, so I just told Media Matters what you guys were saying and hoped they either watched it or could get a transcript.

[Syrinx]

42. Good Work, Clark2008! (transcript via Media Matters)

Wolf Blitzer "not so sure" liberal CNN host Begala is "a good Catholic"

On the April 8 edition of CNN's Inside Politics, CNN hosts Wolf Blitzer and Judy Woodruff discussed Pope John Paul II's funeral with Crossfire co-hosts Paul Begala and Robert Novak, both Catholics. Blitzer opened the segment by suggesting that while "I'm sure Bob is a good Catholic, I'm not so sure about Paul Begala." In responding to Blitzer, Begala took exception to on-screen text* earlier in the program that characterized many Catholic doctrines as "conservative":

BLITZER: While they were united today in mourning the death of the pope, U.S. Catholics are a diverse group, as illustrated by two of our Crossfire co-hosts, the conservative Robert Novak, the liberal Paul Begala. Both good Catholics -- I don't know "good" Catholics, but both Catholics. I'm sure Bob is a good Catholic, I'm not so sure about Paul Begala.

BEGALA: Well, now, who are you to pass moral judgment on my religion, Mr. Blitzer? My goodness gracious.

BLITZER: All right, go ahead, go ahead.

BEGALA: On the day of my Holy Father's funeral. My eldest son is named John Paul, after the Pope.

BLITZER: So you are a good Catholic?

BEGALA: I'm serious, that annoys me. I don't think anybody should presume that a liberal is not a good Catholic.

NOVAK: Paul, Paul, Paul is a good Catholic.

BEGALA: The Holy Father is liberal. And in fact, when Carlos was speaking , I was in the green room. Underneath, some producer had written, "Many Catholic doctrines are conservative." Absolutely correct. Many are liberal as well. The Holy Father bitterly opposed President Bush's war in Iraq. He came to St. Louis -- and I was there -- and he begged America to give up the death penalty. President Bush strongly supports it, as did President Clinton and others. Many of the Holy Father's views -- my church's views -- are extraordinarily liberal. The Pope talked about savage, unbridled capitalism, not Bob Novak's kind --

BLITZER: I was certainly not questioning -- I was only teasing.

BEGALA: Okay.

BLITZER: Don't be so sensitive.

BEGALA: Well, it's an important day for my faith.

BLITZER: It's a very important day --

BEGALA: It's the only pope of my adult lifetime, so I'm a little emotional tonight.

BLITZER: It's a very important day for Bob Novak. Go ahead, Bob.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200504090001

[LibertyorDeath]

20. Leslie Blitzer a shit stain of a talking head on a shit stain of a network

[EVDebs]

22. CNN and PsyOps plus Operation Mockingbird ... more press

need to be made aware that WE'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE !!!!!!!!!

CNN and PsyOps
www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html

Operation Mockingbird CIA Media Manipulation Project
www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html

[bvar22]

23. Thew two points Begala SHOULD have made:

1) The POPE was absolutely AGAINST the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. He considered it an UNJUST and IMMORAL War!

2) The POPE hade some concerns that bush* may actually be the ANTI-Christ!

[Proud2BAmurkin]

31. He did make the first point

.

[bvar22]

35. Wish I had seen it!

I used to be addicted to CrossFire, but after John Stewart, I was able to walk away.

Had Begala shown a little more fire, I might still be watching.

[dzika]

32. I've been sending nasty email to CNN about Wolf

ever since he went on the week long ass-kissing expedition to Iraq. For a week, Wolf reported on the happy soldiers with excellent war toys. Here was my last letter to CNN about Wolf:

Dear CNN's "Wolf Blitzer Reports":

I've watched Wolf Blitzer's 12, 5 and Sunday shows for several years. During the last 18 months, the show's bias has leaned more and more to the right.

During his recent ass-kissing expedition to Iraq, Wolf Blitzer has finally lower himself to the point where I will no longer watch the show. I agree (and am happy to know) that there are many satisfied soldiers in Iraq. I also now know that there are many satisfied soldiers in Iraq with really cool war equipment.

I do find it strange that the microphone didn't happen to pass by a single voice dissent. I also find it strange that a serious television journalist couldn't find the time to visit Fallujah or help the viewer better understand the effects of the much reported insurgency.

A slide show put to a faux-country music ballad topped off this ass kissing expedition.

After deciding to never watch Wolf Blitzer again, the Sunday show snuck up on me with same horrible slide show (although better music). Now my Tivo has a free slot on Sunday too!

Bye bye.

[Cha]

41. Cool! I'm one who hasn't

watched woofee since Nov 2002..but I never sent them a good bye letter..I was too pissed!