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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 08:57 AM
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Why is Finkelstein the only hypocrite here?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/09/politics/09finkelstein.html?



WASHING TON, April 8 - Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant who has directed a series of hard-edged political campaigns to elect conservatives in the United States and Israel over the last 25 years, said Friday that he had married his male partner in a civil ceremony at his home in Massachusetts.




Mr. Finkelstein, 59, who has made a practice of defeating Democrats by trying to demonize them as liberal, said in a brief interview that he had married his partner of 40 years to ensure that the couple had the same benefits available to married heterosexual couples.


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"In recent years, Arthur hasn't pretended to be a social conservative," said one longtime conservative associate, who cited Mr. Finkelstein's aversion to publicity in declining to be identified. "But this is the same man who was the architect of Jesse Helms' political rise."

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I can certainly see why Finkelstein is a hypocrite here. His is the worst kind of selfishness. I have mine so go fuck yourself. But Helms is every bit the hypocrite that Finkelstein is. He demonizes gays as intrinsically evil and sick yet he accepts the professional services of a gay man. If gays are evil and sick, then we all are, not just some. While we condemn Finkelstein for his hypocrisy, we should also condemn Helms for his.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 08:58 AM
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1. LOL DEMORALIZE THEM AS LIBERAL???//// WTF?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:00 AM
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2. Demonize them, not demoralize.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:02 AM
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3. He isn't the only one
spell check didn't recognize the word either.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:07 AM
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6. LOL
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:05 AM
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4. Oh my glaucoma kickin up I guess... demonize yes on reread still WTF?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:07 AM
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5. Funny how the article doesn't even mention
that this is the "Stop Hillary Now" guy.

Pataki political guru starts 'Stop Her Now' PAC vs. Hill

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


ALBANY — Conservative Republican strategist Arthur Finkelstein, a political guru to Gov. Pataki, is starting an anti-Hillary Rodham Clinton, “Stop Her Now” political action committee, a fellow GOP operative said Monday.
A top Clinton adviser said the move was evidence Republicans plan “a negative campaign of lies and distortions” against the former first lady in her 2006 bid for re-election to the Senate.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/breaking_news/story/278634p-238727c.html



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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:09 AM
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7. Here's what I don't understand about the whole republican/
conservative thing:

Mel White who was a ghost writer for Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham is as gay as I am, yet he was doing their work so he is ok.

I personally know a gay man who sang at an Alan Keyes fundraiser and has sang many times on the Gaither family christian show, but he's ok because he too, is doing their work.

The guy who was Anita Bryant's pianist, Greg somebody or other is gay, but he's ok because he's doing their work.

Those are only 3 examples I can think of off the top of my head where gay people are helping the careers of the right wing. My first question is, why are gay people helping conservatives who would just as soon kill them? My second question is, why are conservatives attacking gays when, if you look behind the scenes, they surround themselves with the very people they are attacking?

Jeez, it's only 9:00 am and I need a drink already. :crazy:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:15 AM
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8. I think White stayed in the closet
and was pretty much thrown out of the Falwell circle when he came out. The others I don't know about. The Keyes one really surprises me given the fact the threw his own daughter out for being gay.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:03 AM
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10. Me too and I don't drink ... much....
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 09:17 AM
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9. Why is it?
...that it seems gays are at the top of just about any field, like this gay finklestein?

Is it because they will roll over for ANYONE and take it up the (you know what) for anyone; is it because they are so outside the mainstream that being anti-social like finklestein, so ruthless (where's ruth?) and so hard edged, that they can overcome any obstacle in their way?

Is their sexuality a component of their composition helping them to be so successful?

Just asking. Really. Don't take it personally.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:05 AM
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11. I also do not understand the dichotomy .. Bloodletting/Bloodsucking ...
maybe that's it.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:07 AM
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12. A lot of young gay men in the closet need a place to put their
energies and focus since they deny a significant piece of their life.

A lot of them end up totally excelling in their fields.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:17 AM
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13. J.R. "Bob" Dobbs: "I don't practice what I preach...
...because I'm not the one I'm preaching to."



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