PHOTO: "Enjoying those tax 'cuts', Bush voters?"

[Bluebear]

Suckers. :eyes:

[PinkTiger]

1. Where did you take these pictures?

I hope not in Missouri!!!

[Bluebear]

7. That is San Francisco

[Godai Kyoko]

60. California has lots of boutique gasolines

Environmental rules in CA are such that they have lots of boutique gasolines. Many SMSAs have rules on special gasolines, because of environmental rules.


This is an anual issue In CA. Supply is restricted and demand goes way up in summer. In Red State areas the price is 2.15, in the cities with the special gasolines, the price, as we see here, gets up over $3. That extra 85 cents is partly the price of monopoly (large demand, short supply) and partly the necessary price of breathing better air.

SF has great transit. About 40% electric, IIRC. During rush hour the #14 bus runs every three minutes. I loved transit in SF. You litteraly didn't need a car there.

Bkes however, are a problem. Those hills are killer.

[shanti]

62. i just filled up yesterday in sacramento

2.59 for regular unleaded. it cost me $41 to fill up my 4 cyl minivan.

[Rowdyboy]

2. LOL....Good one!

People need to start focusing on their economic self-interest instead of being sidetracked by peripheral issues like gay marriage and abortion.

[whistle]

3. Holy shit, what part of the country is that in?

...It was up to $2.339 for reg last Thursday in Orlando FL

[ananda]

4. CA?

Is that in California?

Here in Houston, gas is going from $2.14 to $2.25.

Sue

[kliljedahl]

5. Just went to $2.39 in Indianapolis

Not the last hike I'm sure.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[Ariana Celeste]

14. Another reason..

I am happy not to drive. Then again, we live in Plainfield, and everything we need is within walking distance. Lol. Helps we live in the apts right behind Marsh. :).

[kliljedahl]

15. Have you been to the Indiana DU Meetup group?

Worth a couple of dollars of gas if you're interested.


When:
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 at 7:00 PM

Where:
Loughmiller's Pub and Eatery
301 W. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-638-7380


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[Ariana Celeste]

16. If I could find a ride,

I'd love to show up someday! The husband and I both don't drive, don't have licenses, and don't plan on going that route anytime soon- at least, not until we decide to move away from Indy. ;)

[Orrex]

18. Dipping

A few stations in western PA dropped from a scandalous $2.2399 to $219.99 bargain overnight.

[FreedomAngel82]

48. Down the road here in TN

it's $2.21. :crazy:

[GOPFighter]

6. These higher gas prices...

...will soon be forcing up the price of everything delivered by truck, train, or plane. The cost of plastics will go up. The cost to make anything that uses a lot of power will skyrocket. Think your paycheck didn't go far last year? Things are going to get mighty tight here soon.

[HockeyMom]

8. Even Groceries

Anything and everything that needs to be shipped additional costs will be passed on to the consumer.

[Bluebear]

10. Airlines can't sustain this

The million dollar managers refuse to raise prices and the line workers will suffer as they go out of business.

[Turn CO Blue]

68. I work for an airline

and it's a grim time.

You are right about the fares, too...it's a highly irrational fare environment we're in right now!

What other service business would take such risks and over a long term (since Mar of 2002) knowingly sell for less than the cost of providing the services, just so that no other competitor would get the business?

What a cut throat war of attrition! And the workers and labor in general are the ones who suffer now. Eventually the flying public will suffer. Low cost carriers cannot possibly make up the capacity if one of the dinosaurs should fail (meaning that a 30 aircraft carrier couldn't come in and take over for a 3000 aircraft carrier).

For two years now you can fly for far cheaper than renting a car and driving the distance...

I'd better polish up my resume.

[NNN0LHI]

12. Have you notice the smaller packages for everything too?

Or the stuff in the same sized package that are mostly air inside of them. I don't even want to talk about the half gallons of ice cream that are no longer a half a gallon.

[me b zola]

53. An interesting trend

I have seen that usually when they make smaller packaging, the price increases.:mad:

[sandnsea]

56. They can't do that too much more

They've gone from 16 to 14 to 13 on chips. If they downsize them anymore, we'll be paying $2 for a snack bag and $1.00 for a bite size candy bar.

[caledesi]

20. That's right.....Now they plan on raising the cost of stamps...

I predicted this a week ago - it was a no-brainer. EVERYTHING will cost MORE. TY *. Moron!

[Lugnut]

43. Exactly.

My son is an indepenent owner-operator. He hauls fresh produce from Florida to NYC and he and his fellow independents are raising their hauling rates. If they don't get the rates they need to move their trucks they will park them. A two or three work stoppage by indpendent truckers will bring this country to a grinding halt very quickly.

[hootinholler]

61. Absolutely.

Everything we consume is shipped on trucks at least twice, often 4 or more times.

I remember in the 80's a truckers protest about the condition of I70 in Pa. Truckers were driving it at 20MPH and it rendered the highway useless until the state committed to repair.

Can you imagine a 20MPH protest day? That would get the corporatista junta's attention. Shut down the interstates nationwide for a day, or even a few hours, and you would get their attention.

-Hoot

[USAcitizen]

31. You are right

The whole economy will be hurting real soon. Can you imagine how this will affect the family vacation this summer?

[walldude]

39. Hell, I couldn't afford a vacation before gas went up...

[BlackVelvetElvis]

72. That's right.

Anyone notice the cost of food going up?
You bet that low income person does.

[qanda]

75. Groceries are so expensive right now

That I really don't know how much higher they can go. Well, I 'm sure they can go higher, but will we be able to afford it much longer?

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. Yeah. The tax breaks were taken back at the pump a LOOOOONG time ago.

They're just too stupid to look at the big picture.

[w4rma]

11. I find it interesting how Democratic voting areas are getting hit by

the highest gas prices the hardest and the "battleground" voting areas are some of the lowest prices in the nation.

I think it is obvious that the folks who set the prices for all the regions have a political agenda.

[kineneb]

13. Na, its cause we live in paradise already

and the guys with tornadoes, hurricanes and 6 feet of snow are just jealous...it is made up by the fact we don't need as much to heat or cool our homes

and gas here is about $2.69 or so

[purr]

17. I have to laugh at my in-laws...

Born again freepers who damn democrats to hell and tell everyone but THEM they're going to hell as well.. They have a chevy DIESEL.. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. :rofl:

Even sent us (me and hubby) reasons on hating the democrats and why Hillary should go to hell. Yeah.. She knows my standpoint and still sends me the shit.

GOOD FOR YOU FREEPERS. Hope you like whats going on!

edit: Sorry I just had to vent.. I've had a lot of pent up BLAH feelings about them since I met them and I am finally letting it all out.

[kliljedahl]

21. Feel free to vent

That's mild compared to what I think most of the time.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[caledesi]

47. Freepers are so sick....check this out..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380431/posts

had to shower afterwards.

how about the one that posted (paraphrasing here) "we have to get rid of these stupid Democrats." Say what? :wtf:

[Pool Hall Ace]

73. Yes, he says the stinking liberals need to be removed from office.

And why? So we can "start to use this country's own resources!"

They don't seem to have smilies over there in freeperville. Is this guy being sarcastic? I didn't know liberals were in charge, or that America has plenty of oil right here. The things you learn. :eyes:

[caledesi]

19. OMG! that is great BB. My friend in RI called me today to tell me

that she paid $2.50/gallon (reg) today and was pissed.

She actually voted for this moron lst time around, until she got educated.

[rodeodance]

23. we alll have to suffer for those 'uneducated' voters!!

[w4rma]

27. We need to educate them better. That's our responsibility. (nt)

[USAcitizen]

32. I usually buy gas once a week

Last week I paid $2.17 for reg. Today I paid $2.37. I heard on the news that even if the prices down, It will probably never go below $2.00 per gallon.:(

[Octafish]

22. SS Condescenda Rice

It sailed under the Chevron flag.

[Bluebear]

24. Actual photo here

[Binka]

26. Bets Are That This Cow Loves This Tanker

Condi is such a fucking freak she must have this photo on her ceiling. Gawd we can't even make shit up about this wretched cow sadly it must be true.

[Bluebear]

28. 'wretched cow'

You always say a mouthful. :)

[Binka]

29. Thanks BB

Condi just rubs me the wrong way. There is something SO off with her. The nasty face, the haughty attitude, the lack of grace, the manly stance......well she is just a wretched cow.

[LibertyorDeath]

44. nasty wretched cow face for you

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:toast:

[fasttense]

25. I was told by my freeper son-in-law that the tax cuts were

just a a much needed redistribution of wealth. I wonder what he thinks of this redistribution of wealth?

[USAcitizen]

30. And the Right made fun of Gore

Because he wanted to explore alternative fuels.

But the rich Bush supporters really don't want to explore alternative fuels, they want control the world's oil and therefore control the world. But the poor dumb sheep who love Bush so much don't see it because they have been led to believe that the left wants to steal Christmas and the 10 Commandments. Americans are DUMB!x(

[caledesi]

49. USA - your are SO right.

Check this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380431/posts

These people are really crazy.

[Deja Q]

36. Tell him this, re: distro of wealth:

Laborers work more and more for less and less as the upper class takes more and more while telling the workers to do more and more.

THAT is the only REAL distribution of wealth. From us to them while we continue to allow them to whip us to the grave. If anyone thinks * is out there to help them, they're either misled, ignorant, or just dumb.

[Mike Niendorff]

66. A quote I saw on Usenet about 10 years ago:

"When you see great concentration of wealth, it's a pretty good indicator that such 'redistribution' has already taken place."


MDN

[progressoid]

41. Huh? Redistribution of wealth?

What the hell kind of upside down logic is that?

[bvar22]

33. Too bad that the stupid bush* voters....

..had to drag the entire country into the pits.

But anyway, this is for the people who voted for bush*:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Fuckin DUMBASSES!!!!
I told you that you weren't getting no taxcut.
Bush* coulda sent YOUR taxcut straight to his friends at the Big Oil.

[Fescue4u]

34. GESUS. Where they hell is that

Most be some freeper land haven.

(on edit. I just read where its at. Im shocked that this is in San Francisco. I would have thought they would have done something about what appears to be gouging.)

[Bluebear]

35. Gas went up here 6 cents TODAY

In the northeast. Maybe the idea is to get it up to $3.00 so $2.50 won't seem "that bad".

[Digit]

37. Was it * or someone else who said to go out and buy SUV's a few years ago?

Is my memory faulty, or did this administration say that.

[hatrack]

38. No, but Chimpy did sneer at hybrid cars in the 2000 campaign

And that was with the Governor of Michigan at his side on stage when he did so. Got big laughs in Michigan. Something tells me they're not laughing in Michigan now.

Bush also stated that "We need an energy policy that encourages consumption." Well, we still have one, and we can see how well that's working out.

And then of course the "Hummer Deduction", which has mercifully lapsed. If you bought a vehicle over 6,000 pounds (which was essentially the Hummer or the Ford Excursion), you got an accelerated tax deduction for 75% of the vehicle, provided it was a "business expense". So, florists with Hummers, real estate brokers with Hummers, you get the picture. Something tells me that particular deduction isn't coming back, though with ChimpCo, you never can tell.

[proud_dem]

40. I seem to feel that the gas prices will go down soon ...

under $2 dollars, bush needs to get people shopping again at all costs before china gets antsy and stops financing the US.

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[KG]

57. you can kiss sub-2.00 gas goodbye - forever.

[gordianot]

42. ** miscalculations

I am convinced the administration thought they would have pacified Iraq by now. With Iraqi oil flowing they would have OPEC on the ropes. The Saud-i's would go along to protect their American investments.

The problem is they placed a complete total screw up as Chairman of the Board **. They compounded the error by ignoring a replacement in 2004 who was somewhat more populist. Now they are facing complete disaster before 2006 and may loose everything.

Large numbers of Americans are not going to stand for loss of their living standards. The gas goes, the car goes, empty Supermarkets, kids no longer go to College, will finally unite a divided nation.

This time Poppy will not be able to bail out Junior.

[Daphne08]

45. Yep. They should have listened to the Middle East experts

instead of that Neo Con cabal in Washington! I'll never forgive them for what they've done!

[caledesi]

51. Good post Gord. Tells it like it is. nt

[Vektor]

46. My liberal friend was in the car with her Repub parents today...

When fundie Mom said "I cannot believe that gas prices are this high! How can we afford this! It's outrageous!"

My liberal friend said "Well, you can blame your war president for that. If Kerry were running the country, we'd be finding a way out of this mess, not burrowing deeper. And it's only going to get worse over the next four years. Hope you like lying in the bed you made."

Mind you, this is not a disrespectful teenager, she is 31.

When she told me this story, I was SHOCKED. I said "Holy shit! What did your parents say?!?!

She replied. "Not a goddamn word."

Two more Bush supporters are waking up and smelling the coffee a little too late, it seems.

[caledesi]

52. This is so sick. The Freeps are comparing prices of gas to milk!

When was the last time u drank 10 gallons of milk? Typical freeper sh*t. Change the subject or make it look like u are making a real analogy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380431/posts

[Vektor]

54. HAHAHA

I'm laughing about the ass saying we need to get the "stinking liberals" out of office!

Ehhh...what stinking Liberals? Wally O'Dell and Diebold made sure there were no stinking Liberals in office.

Hey ANUS! There ARE no stinking liberals in office.

AND - all the people I am hearing whining about gas prices are the Repukes. They are the ones that hate to pay for anything. They want it all handed to them.

My husband always laughs when he hears the asinine anti-environmentalist jargon from the misguided douche bags. He says "They hate the EARTH. Wow! What do you say to someone like that?!"

The neopukes really are a deranged bunch.

[Lorien]

65. I say send 'em all to Yucca mountain

with the rest of the waste. They love pollution so much, THEY should allow toxins to be buried in their OWN backyards!

If there were not a SINGLE democrat in office, the repugs would still say that the world is in the state it's in because of the Libruls. They're the party of passing-the-buck; there's no personal responsibility there whasoever.

[LynnTheDem]

55. How far do their autos get on a gallon of milk?

freeping rightwingnuts; STUPIDEST MFers on the planet.

And WHY are they not DYING for their bush-god yet???

[FunkyLeprechaun]

59. Is it me...

Or am I agreeing with what that JeffersonRepublic.com user on Freep is saying?

Is it one of you DUers? Fess up!

[shanti]

63. unfortunately

these gas prices are going to have a direct correlation to the price of milk:-(

[pissed_American]

58. zip code 91780 (LA, Calif) ARCO cheapest.2.59 reg super 2.79 eom

[lostinacause]

64. Bush's control in gas prices is limited at best

[Bluebear]

67. Thank you for your assessment.

And Bandar Bush didn't make a Saudi Pledge to keep oil prices down before the election either, right?

[lostinacause]

69. Find statistics for the oil produced in the Saudi Arabia by month

for the last 10 years and I will tell you if that is the case.

For Bush to have a considerable effect on the price he has to control either supply or demand for oil. Regarding supply you have economic theory to justify the major OPEC players' actions. Regarding demand American consumption has been increasing at a fairly steady rate since the second oil price spike (Canada's has also shown a similar pattern). China's increase in consumption has also helped to increase the demand.

My first statement was not an assessment. It was an assertion.

[Bluebear]

71. Gee I don't think I have the time to find out the oil production...

of Saudi Arabia by month for the last ten years but thanks :)

[lostinacause]

74. If I remember correctly the Saudi's have just less then a 20% share

of the production of oil. This would require a 5% increase in production to increase the total quantity supplied by 1%. Unless your source looked at this information, it just relies on heresy.

Even if he was able to lower the price for the election, it is quite a bit harder to raise the price then it is to lower it. Although you can lower the price through dumping at a small cost, it is difficult to raise the price because other people will just increase their own production.

To summarize; I'm skeptical about the Bush being able to lower the price and I don't believe it is feasible (or beneficial) for Bush to raise the gas prices intentionally.

[yankeedem]

70. 2.03 in Hoboken NJ

Full serve- no gas crisis here

:sarcasm:

Have you noticed that since the "oil president" took office, the basic price of gas has gone up 25c a year?

2001- $1
2002- $1.25
2003- $1.50
2004- $1.75
2005- $2

It usually goes up to about 25c more (in NJ) then falls down to the lower figure. So I expect if this pattern continues that the gas prices will go back to about $2.

[Sapphire Blue]

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