oustemnow
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Sat Apr-09-05 05:57 PM
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Anyone else reading What's the Matter With Kansas? |
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Just started it--I'm about 30 pages in--but so far it is so densely packed with damning facts and arguments, along with a fair amount of humor. The question is, how to remedy the fact that so many people have been convinced to vote agaonst their own interests? Can anyone who's finished the book tell me is Frank addresses this, or is it merely a dissection of the phenomenon?
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:06 PM
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1. It is mainly a dissection of the phenomenon, but |
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at several points he takes the Dems to task for shifting right on economic issues. That shift has left many voters with the perception that there is no difference between the pubs and the Democrats on those issues, thus leaving social issues as the only area where distinctions can be drawn.
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:12 PM
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3. so he's basicaly saying that, at this point, culture wars will |
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define political debate?
Man, that's depressing--but it makes sense.
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:16 PM
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6. Culture wars will define political debate |
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as long as the dems and the reps are identical on economic matters.
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:19 PM
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8. the DLC's answer, of course, is that we also must move to the right |
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:08 PM
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2. i read it a while back |
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IIRC it's more of a dissection than an addressing of correction.
IMO, he dissected these issues so thoroughly that by the end of the book he has said all he could outside of certain...urm, politics-that-dare-not-speak-its-name stuff.
if you get my drift.
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oustemnow
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:13 PM
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5. I think I catch your drift |
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love the user name, by the way--a Simpsons fan, I take it?
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:13 PM
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Pretty close to reality. Nothing I do not see in Minnesota Republican country.
If you follow the news there were no real new points brought up. It was a decent read.
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:16 PM
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finished yet ... we were on vacation and I had polished off a michael moore book, Franken's lying liars, and Molly Ivins shrub and, not surprisingly, my wife convinced me that I was ruining the vaca with my political ranting ... have been waiting for serenity before I pick back up
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:19 PM
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9. heh heh, awesome story |
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great reading list, but I imagine you were a complete pain in the ass to vacation with.
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The Whiskey Priest
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:21 PM
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10. I have read the book, excellent critique |
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on the phenomena of people becoming so angry that their senses leave them and they start punch themselves in the face. Franks explains how the middle and working class in the red states are beating the shit out of themselves. They are really kicking their own asses…
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Sat Apr-09-05 06:24 PM
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11. It has been discussed |
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