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Tue Apr-12-05 01:54 PM
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Poll question: Is it true that "Freedom isn't Free"? |
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Edited on Tue Apr-12-05 02:02 PM by UdoKier
Is it true that "Freedom isn't Free"?
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Tue Apr-12-05 01:56 PM
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is eternal vigilance...........
take that you RW neanderthals.....
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Tue Apr-12-05 01:57 PM
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2. Freedom is Free, if you're Property! |
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Tue Apr-12-05 01:57 PM
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3. Yes, Freedom requires corporations and really, really rich people |
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to pay taxes instead of sheltering and loopholing like mad.
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:00 PM
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4. Yes. It's $50,000 for the luxury SUV and $3 for the sticker. |
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So..."freedom" is $50,003 plus tax and licensing. Enjoy it! :eyes:
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:05 PM
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5. War in Iraq: 80 billion a year. |
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Freedom, should we ever attain it again: Priceless.
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:07 PM
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6. Freedom is expensive, so pay your taxes, rethuglicans. |
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:27 PM
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7. ...when you're fighting to the last drop of someone else's blood. |
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:28 PM
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8. The same B.S. as "Support Our Troops" and "America, love it or leave it" |
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Aimed at getting kids to kill and die for a slogan.
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:36 PM
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Edited on Tue Apr-12-05 03:52 PM by libhill
Our "freedom" has not been truly in jeopardy since the Revolutionary War. And even then, the Regime of King George was actually pretty benign, compared to a lot of governments which existed in those days. I'm not so sure that we were even really threatened during World War 2. We pushed Japan into warring against us, with oil embargo's and restrictions on immigration. And it's common knowledge that certain U.S. businessmen helped to fund the Nazi war machine.
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:37 PM
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10. Freedom is a Buck o'Five |
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Artist: Trey Parker Lyrics Song: Freedom Isn't Free Lyrics
What would you do If you were asked to give up your dreams for freedom What would you do If asked to make the ultimate sacrifice
Would you think about all them people Who gave up everything they had. Would you think about all them War Vets And would you start to feel bad
Freedom isn't free It costs folks like you and me And if we don't all chip in We'll never pay that bill Freedom isn't free No, there's a hefty fuckin' fee. And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five Who will?
What would you do If someone told you to fight for freedom. Would you answer the call Or run away like a little pussy 'Cause the only reason that you're here. Is 'cause folks died for you in the past So maybe now it's your turn To die kicking some ass
Freedom isn't free It costs folks like you and me And if we don't all chip in We'll never pay that bill Freedom isn't free Now there's a have to hook'in fee And if you don't throw in your buck 'o five Who will?
You don't throw in your buck 'o five. Who will? Oooh buck 'o five Freedom costs a buck 'o five
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:38 PM
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12. What I hate *most* about this phrase |
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is that it seems to assume that the war in Iraq has some relationship to freedom.
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:42 PM
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Freedom to invade Third World countries, and seize their resources at will. Or, in the case of Iraq, to cover the truth about 911, by attacking a nation that had no involvement, to make the sheeple think some action is being taken, and that we're gonna "kick them A-rabs butts fer attackin' our country". After all, we can't really go after bin Laden and the Saudis, can we? Might be hurtful to Shrub family business interests.
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:54 PM
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13. Other: All of the above |
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"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.." :
True or False?
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Tue Apr-12-05 02:56 PM
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14. The middle two are correct. |
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However, the war in Iraq has nothing to do with freedom.
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:39 PM
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if life is free, then so is freedom.
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:48 PM
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18. Freedom is the appreciation of necessity |
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Karl Marx said it best: "Freedom is the appreciation of necessity."
Any other definition doesn't quite cover the idea as well.
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:50 PM
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19. I maintain freedom is free. |
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It is a State of mind. This song enraged Nazi's should work for Republicans.
Die Gedanken Sind Frei (Our Thoughts Are Free)
Die Gedanken sind frei My thoughts freely flower, Die Gedanken sind frei My thoughts give me power. No scholar can map them, No hunter can trap them, No man can deny: Die Gedanken sind frei!
I think as I please And this gives me pleasure, My conscience decrees, This right I must treasure; My thoughts will not cater To duke or dictator, No man can deny-- Die Gedanken sind frei!
And if tyrants take me And throw me in prison My thoughts will burst free, Like blossoms in season. Foundations will crumble, The structure will tumble, And free men will cry: Die Gedanken sind frei!
Neither trouble or pain Will ever touch me again. No good comes of fretting, My hope's in forgetting. Within myself still I can think as I will, But I laugh, do not cry: Die Gedanken sind frei!
-- Traditional
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:56 PM
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The terms "Nazi" and "Republican" pretty much interchangeable?
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Tue Apr-12-05 04:00 PM
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22. That's the way I see it and my implication. |
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:54 PM
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20. Freedom? Ha - what's that? |
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We don't have that for much longer in Amerika. The police state is on it's way...
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Tue Apr-12-05 04:12 PM
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23. Many people take a free ride, but somewhere, someone is paying the |
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price.
Pretend the war in Iraq never happened. It's not a question about Bush's little adventure for oil.
There are plenty of people throughout the world who have died for freedom. Sometimes it is necessary to pay the ultimate price.
There are lots of other costs though.
A free society depends upon participation. People need to vote, serve on juries, be public servants.
People who blaze a trail pay a price. Do you think it was easy being an abolitionist or a woman fighting for the right to vote or a person fighting for civil rights? Martin Luther King paid a price.
Someone always has to pay the piper.
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Tue Apr-12-05 04:17 PM
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24. People are also free to oppress others. |
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To be free of oppression you need Liberty which has a price.
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Tue Apr-12-05 04:21 PM
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25. It's cheaper than the alternative. |
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