So, Negroponte & Bolton WILL Be Confirmed

[matcom]

MY prediction

STILL love your government?

STILL think the Dems are viable? (and HONEST)

STILL love 'Murica?

i'm not so convinced

status quo if you ask me

'gawd bless 'Murica' or.....

fuck her if you ask me.

[WilliamPitt]

1. Don't be so sure about Bolton

but Negroponte is probably a done deal.

[matcom]

3. wanna bet? i'll give you odds

100-1?

[WilliamPitt]

5. Hm

So if you win, you get a dollar, and if I win I get a hundred?

Done. The bet is one dollar.

Now I must stare intently at Senator Chafee of Rhode Island and put the whammy on him.

[matcom]

6. gonna take MUCH more than "whammy"

and the very FACT you are putting your $$ on ONE MEMBER affirms the above statement

adios ;)

[WilliamPitt]

10. Well

That's the shits about being in the minority. I think every Dem on the committee will stand against Bolton (maybe not Feingold; he has this weird twitch about approving every Bush pick as a matter of courtesy), but it won't matter unless Chafee does it.

So yeah, Matt, one Senator does matter. Remember Mr. Jeffords.

[matcom]

11. i look at Jeffords as an Enigma

and AGAIN, the very fact that this isn't a UNANIMOUS thumbs down says volumes

just watched Rockefeller on ContrivedNewsNetwork

"done deal"

wait for it...

[Catch22Dem]

2. Does that mean Chaffee rolled over?

I havn't caught any news/DU today.

[Malva Zebrina]

8. Yes

Chafee's logic is that the two analyists that were targeted by Bolton, did not lose their jobs,after all, :eyes: so that makes everything just fine and dandy and above board as far as Bolton goes.

[leesa]

19. I have heard this statement about five times now and I still don't get it

Bolton didn't waste these guys, so he gets Chafee's vote?? Chafee will be targeted, but these guys didn't lose their jobs, so Chafee will vote for Bolton?? I don't get the logic at all. Is he afraid of being targeted or not afraid of being targeted?

[RBHam]

4. Two advocates for torture and state-sponsored terrorism?

A perfect fit for the Bush Junta...

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Does it even matter anymore?

Whoever Bush picks will be even worse than the previous one. He does it for spite.

[Cleita]

7. You're surprised?

We, the people, are no longer in charge of our government. Over and over again they prove this fact to us and yet the pollyannas among us think that the next time it will be different.

Wake up and smell the jackboot polish.

[Withywindle]

12. You're just now realizing this?

That's what being the minority party MEANS. It means that even if every single one of your members votes in total party solidarity all the time, the Republicans will usually get what they want anyway.

The people in Congress with the most power right now? Moderate, persuadable Republicans (or at least 'Pubs perceived that way).

It's not news. We've known this since we lost Congress in '02. That's why protecting the filibuster and the '06 elections are so important. Why the breast-beating over it now?

[Stirk]

13. Bolton would be the most honest UN rep we've had in years.

Seriously- c'mon. He's a UN-hating nut, to be sure- but all the loony, nationalist, irresponsible bullshit he's said in the past reflects the stance our government has had toward the UN for years. Just like the blatantly corporate Bush/Cheney presidency has been the same old corporate-run government we always have, without the happy, populist paint job.

People in this country like the UN, and they like multilateralism. As much as I'd prefer to see Bolton shown the door, part of me says fuck it- let these guys open the hood and let everyone can see the machine. They won't like it.

[acmavm]

14. I think you're right. And the confirmation of John Negroponte will be the

final proof that this country is being led by a bunch of morally bankrupt bastards. Anyone who votes for that man deserves a special place in the bowels of hell. Just like the rest of the horrific administration, he smells of cruelty, death, and destruction.

[AG78]

16. They've already confirmed him twice before

Once for the UN, and just last year for Iraq after the "handover" of power. And he's being replaced in Iraq with Zalmay Khalilzad, who is another of the many from the same group that has control.

[donheld]

15. Matcom, i'm afraid you will be right

but i hope not. :wtf: :evilfrown: :mad::argh: :hurts: :grr: :nuke: :scared: :banghead: :hide: :patriot:

[American in Asia]

17. I think you're right...

And I am so depressed...last night (my time) I was enraged - hurling stuff and cursing at the television after Lugar gave his brilliant summing up about how we didn't need to be so concerned about Bolton's credibility, because he'd, you know, be speaking for Bush and Condi at the UN.

Today I just feel like crap .... I am so damn tired of this - outrage on top of outrage, each worse and more blatant than the one before. Someone tell me it has to stop sometime ....

:argh: :nuke: :grr:
:cry: :cry: :cry:

[ignatius 2]

18. Pathetic isn't it? I see more and more each day how Nazi Germany came

to power. A compliant government and citizens too apathetic and clueless to care, let alone give a good Goddamn. This is heartwrenching stuff,wathcing my country fucking implode.

[napi21]

20. I think a Bolton confirmation is iffy at best!

His nomination might get out of committee, but I'm not sure he'll be ablee to get 60 votes.

There's the other side too, when the Pubs know they can't get the 60 votes to donfirm, they won't let it out of committee because then they can blame it on the Dems in the committee.

We'll see.

I watched both yesterday with the questioniniong of Bolton, and today with the testemony of Ford. Everyone on that committee knows both were aired, and it's really tough to OK Bolton after Fords statements.