Has Karl Rove ever married?

[YEM]

The reason I ask is I was watching Frontline last night. They never mentioned a thing about family. I found it interesting considering that much of his policy is supposedly "family moral" issues. What's this guy's deal?

I found it odd that NOTHING was mentioned about his family. Not even his parents. Interesting.

[KayLaw]

1. He's married

His wife looks like a female version of him; they could be twins.

[YEM]

3. Wow, my bad.

I thought he was never married. Seems he is never with his wife.

[RawMaterials]

5. His wifes name is Lenny :) like the simpsons n/m

[peekaloo]

7. LOL!

[BreweryYardRat]

25. Holy shit!

You mean there's actually a woman out there that can stand him?!

[FreedomAngel82]

36. Don't they also have a son?

You hardly see them anywhere. :shrug: I remember last year Nancy Pelosi's daughter had a documentary on the DNC primary race and she was at the white house bbq thing and went over to talk to Rove (:shrug:) and
he was getting out of a car or limo (can't remember which one) and I didn't see anybody get out with him. :shrug:

[bullimiami]

2. ...

[HereSince1628]

4. Mentioning his father would have brought up the Nazi connection

and the name change...

[YEM]

6. Can you elaborate?

What Nazi connection? What name change?

Is his family anti-semetic?

[SheepyMcSheepster]

8. yes more details please

thanks

[HereSince1628]

10. Here you go, lots of Nazi connections to BFEE

This particular article isn't especially important just first on my list.


Siege Heil: The Bush-Rove-Schwarzenegger Nazi Nexus and the Destabilization of California
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman

George W. Bush's grandfather helped finance the Nazi Party. Karl Rove's grandfather allegedly helped run the Nazi Party, and helped build the Birkenau Death Camp. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Austrian father volunteered for the infamous Nazi SA and became a ranking officer

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1006-08.htm

[whistle]

12. Humm, this is dymomite stuff if it is in fact true.....

...Have reporter's ever confronted KKKarl Rove with any of these facts about his grandfather? If so, what has Rove's answer been?

<snip edit, sorry>

Karl Rove has parallel ties. The shadowy Rove serves as "Bush's Brain" in the current White House. He is the political mastermind behind the California coup, and is now in the headlines for outing Valerie Plame, the CIA wife of Ambassador Joseph Wilson. A consummate strategist, Rove may have outed Plame in retaliation for Wilson's failure to back up the Bush claim that Saddam Hussein was buying nuclear weapons materials in Africa. According to some published reports, as many as seventy CIA operatives have been put at risk by Rove's retaliatory strike.

According to Wilson, and to Retired U.S. Navy Lt. Commander Al Martin (www.almartinraw.com), Rove's grandfather was Karl Heinz Roverer, the Gauleiter of Oldenburg. Roverer was Reich-Statthalter---Nazi State Party Chairman---for his region. He was also a partner and senior engineer in the Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurburo A. G. engineering firm, which built the Birkenau death camp, at which tens of thousands of Jews, Gypsies, dissidents and other were slaughtered en masse.

Rove, who has been based in Utah and associated with the Mormon Church, is widely viewed as the chief engineer of the current Bush administration. He and Tom DeLay are attempting to force the Texas legislature to redistrict its Congressional delegations, adding seven sure seats to the Republican column. By controlling the state houses in New York, Florida, Texas and California, the GOP would have a lock on the four largest states in the union, and thus the ability to manipulate vote counts and strip voter registration rolls in the run-up to the 2004 election.

Rove is a prime behind-the-scenes mover in the Schwarzenegger campaign. On May 1, 1939, a year after the Nazis took control of Schwarzenegger's native Austria, his father Gustav, voluntarily joined Hilter's infamous Strumabteilung (SA), "brown shirt" stormtroopers. This was just six months after the brown shirts played a key role in the bloody Kristallnacht attacks on Germany's Jewish community.

<end>

[Doctor_J]

17. That explains why the MSM never touches it

Imagine if the major Dem operative in the country were a closeted gay with a Nazi Heritage. Anyone who brings this stuff up about Rove is likely to end up like Rather or even Hatfield.

[Blue Belle]

23. Hatfield?

What Hatfield? Am I missing something?

[HereSince1628]

27. I think that's a reference to the Anthrax suspect

[amazona]

28. hardly it's a reference to the reporter who uncovered Bush's cocaine abuse

Hatfield was suicided shortly thereafter and many copies of the book were destroyed. Yet today * doesn't dispute that he used pot and cocaine, so they just killed the poor guy to no purpose that I can see. After all -- "It's OK If You're A Republican."

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[HereSince1628]

29. Thanks, I'd forgotten that.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. What about those audio tapes??

What about those audio tapes from Wead? He admitted there he did cocaine.

[gordianot]

22. Explains a lot. (potentially)

I grew up in an area that had plenty of Nazi sympathizers. Second and third generations are very similar to sentiments of ancestors who were open members of the Bundt (and) Republican Party.

My Grandfather converted from the dark side (Republican) in the 1920's, if not for that I may have been doomed like Karl.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Not necessarily

You couldn't have for all you know. :shrug: My family is full of republicans and I'm the only self-proclaimed democrat I know of.

[gordianot]

40. They were more than just Republicans.

Remember a famous aviator of the 1920's who later expressed sympathy for Nazi's? There were remote family connections, he was typical of attitudes in our family.

During the second World War close family members verbally accosted my Grandfather on the street because my Uncle participated in bombing Germany. Needless to say my Grandfather was mad and never forgave them. This rift continues to this day across generations.

From personal experience I despise Nazi's, and those who carry on their legacy.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. Why am I not surprised?

Go figure. Anybody remember Arnold's RNC speech? :eyes: About escaping Austria and stuff?

[Avalux]

24. Hi father committed suicide when Rove was a teenager

Dad wasn't around much anyway. Rove was basically a lonely, unpopular but very intelligent kid who went over to the dark side. He has no soul and no heart.

[liam_laddie]

9. Beards?

Could be a beard...there are questions about the gender
preferences of some rethug "leaders." Mehlmen (RNC head,)
Rep.Drier(sp?) R-CA...
Am reading a great book about the early development, ca.
1975-2000, of five of the now-influential RW leadership. Kristol,
Norquist, Reed, Bolick, McIntosh. Gingrich was a huge influence. Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist, was involved with them
as a leader of the Young Republicans. Karl got his start here.
There was/is actually a fairly small but tight-knit group who have
created all this chaos. Book - "Gang of Five" by Nina Easton, pub.
2000. So it's pre-2000 election farce.

[whistle]

11. Good points, any links to these like the Nazi connection of....

...Rove's father, pictures of Rove and his wife Lenny, etc.?

[Skink]

13. The Roves eat there young BTW

[applegrove]

16. You made a mistake. It is 'their' not 'there'. And yes I had the same

thoughts as you when I heard that Rove was sitting near Dean at some dinner (I think it was Dean, it was some great Democrat). And I immediately thought...surely Dean would have reached over and saved the child on Rove's plate?

[havocmom]

15. Looks like him? Hmmm.... anybody ever see them together?

And what did happen to J. Edgar's dresses after he died? :evilgrin:

[amazona]

30. Clyde Tolson got the dresses

As J. Edgar's de facto spouse, he was Hoover's legal beneficiary actually.

It angers me that the rights they claim for themselves as aristocrats, they are not willing to grant to the rest of us.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[applegrove]

14. Rove stuff? Seems a little too easy & convenient to me.

I thought Rove was adopted by a father who walked out on the family around the time Rove was diagnosed as 'a manipulator'. A decade later his mother committed suicide.

The first time I saw this article I laughed. Could not possibly be tied up into a neat little bundle like that.

Someone needs to take a vacation I think!

[SmokingJacket]

18. What's to laugh at?

Rove's connection to the Nazis seems rather iffy -- I'd like to check up on that. But the Bush family's money connections are absolutely real and documented, and Arnold's father definitely was a Nazi.

A bunch of connections doesn't make a conspiracy -- if that's what you mean, I agree. But there's no denying that a lot of the money and power in this country is tangled up in fascism, in one way or another.

[applegrove]

19. Oh yes - it was the Rove family connection that made me laugh. Because

that is really too much fills a need. Sorry. As to Bush's family connections to Germany? yes many, many Americans were isolationists and pro Nazi. Many. That is why it took 2 years for the USA to join WWII. And even then it was because the USA was attacked. Even the Kennedy's were not pro - SAVE THE WORLD at the time. They wanted to stay out of Europe. (And Canadians were anti-semitic too. Just that we were much more attached to the British so always perceived Hitler as the threat the British did).

And then someone woke up the USA and they stepped in and kicked ass.

Rove having a Nazi father would just be too easy. Unfortunately a sexually inadequate slimy little twerp who came from nowhere but formed a 'pair-bond' with a patsy protestant patrician in the 1970s and got into power in your country and wants to remake the nation in his soulless, cold, image .. well that is exactly what is happening.

And he came out of the Midwest or something. He is yours. Your own homegrown freak. Unfortunately the rest of the world has to put up with him for now.

Me I come from the position that all world leaders & their close policy people should be shoved into an MRI machine and tested out for certain more malignant character types before they take office. Now you can go ahead and laugh at me. This dream of MRI machines beside every podium is how I get through the day. We all have our dreams - eh? I think they will find a cure or treatment for sociopathy..and then genocide will be reduced by 3/4 around the world. Would solve both our problems.


We have to retain the ability to laugh at our own dam human selves. That is what makes us so great! Feeling and the ability to accept all the truth (using one defense or another at times). So that we can be the kick ass adults who in the end.. took on Hitler and creamed him and his kind. Erased their asses from the planet.

[Skittles]

20. JAYSUS YEM

I AM TRYING TO EAT HERE

[kskiska]

21. He's divorced and remarried and has two kids

He's not religious at all, though. This was mentioned on the Frontline program.

[grasswire]

26. the divorce records should be public record...

...if anyone knew what county to look in.

His pathetic childhood certainly could have shaped him into some kind of angry man. Dad abandons the family on Christmas day, yada yada.

[Binka]

32. KKKs B Day Is December 25

Martyr complex perhaps? :evilgrin:

[pissed_American]

31. Here is a pic

Of Mr & Mr(s) Rove

[merbex]

33. Separated at Birth, methinks

My God, do they look related!

eeeeuuuuwww

[Batgirl]

34. scariest known (unphotoshopped) photo of "Spitballs" Rove

[gordianot]

35. Must not get out in the sun when he goes to the ranch.

I wonder it the square object in his pocket is the transmitter or if it is the Bush remote control?