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Wed Apr-13-05 02:42 PM
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I'm listening to Randi Rhodes AAR and she has a guest on.... |
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...discusing Iran.....June 2005 is the target date
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:44 PM
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:44 PM
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:44 PM
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it sounds like Ritter to me .
He is amazing . I trusted him before Iraq and I trust him Now .
He has not let me down yet .
This topic scares the hell out of me :-(
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:55 PM
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17. It was. Does anyone have a link to his article? |
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the one he was talking about? I would like to pass it along to some friends.
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Wed Apr-13-05 11:47 PM
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I'll have to listen to the archived. Ritter has been realiable in the past so I'd at least listen to him and head his warning.
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:44 PM
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3. they have a 2006 election to win |
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:48 PM
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9. They are counting on voters ... |
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... turning out to support the troops. :mad:
Besides, most of the Diebold machines have already decided who to vote for.
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:46 PM
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5. June 2005, target date to have war with Iran... |
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June 2004 Bush asked military to prepare attack plan for Iran John Bolton has been the Iran war architect Bush now wants Bolton to be at the UN to demand santions in June 2005 against Iran If UN refuses then Bush is prepared to strike Iran
They are talking faster then I can type.....
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:46 PM
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6. Maybe Dubya has forgotten, |
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except for what is now committed elsewhere, WE HAVE NO ARMY!
Maybe he will draft a proposal that will impress the young into selecting service. (Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to fit "conscript" in there.)
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:55 PM
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18. By invading Iran with the troops presently in Iraq, he can say we achieved |
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VICTORY in Iraq and have withdrawn from there. And he can still drain the US Treasury for Cheney's Corporate Cronies.
Those troops are not coming home until they are old, I fear. Ther are no jobs for them to return to and if they come home, they will talk to people about what is really going on.
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:25 PM
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27. My biggest problem with that scenario....... |
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is that it sandwiches our troops between hostile forces to the east and hostile forces to west.
I've been worrying about this since this administration first started talking smack about Iran in July.
I was active duty Army and served under Reagan, Bush I and Clinton. Thank God I had Commanders-in-Chief that kept wise counsel!
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Wed Apr-13-05 04:14 PM
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30. Yeah, they don't care about supplies or tactical logistics |
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so long as Haliburton gets those checks on time.
Oh, and they put those ribbon magnets on their cars, so they support the troops. :eyes:
When the troops finally get home, there will be hell to pay.
Glad you got out before the junta took over. Thank you for your service to the nation then, and for your service to it now by raising awareness.
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Wed Apr-13-05 11:53 PM
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What will happen with the troops come home? I wonder what their reaction will be. Do you think it'll be worse then Vietnam??
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Thu Apr-14-05 08:58 AM
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36. As the neocons have learned many lessons from the Nixon years, |
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such as you better have total control of MSM and never let the evening news show what war and protests are REALLY like, I fear the majority of the troops will not set foot on American soil again.
Also fully expect debtors' prisons to be opening soon with prisoners getting the option of rotting there until their families can buy them out (will never be possible) or earning credits against their debt via service in the military, overseas, of course.
Lot of $$ in private prisons. Lot of $$ in building them. Will be the sacred xian (as opposed to real Christian) duty of America Inc to teach debtors a lesson. Prison labor is cheap. Corporations will get special tax breaks for putting more production in the prisons so inmates can 'learn a skill'. And inmates will need to learn new skills as jobs outside of prison and military will be gone in America Inc.
The junta learned lessons from the Nixon years. They will NEVER admit error nor take responsibility for it. They will silence any portion of the population that would speak truth to their lies. They will not admit there is any 'downside' to war. They will wrap themselves in the flag and hold a cross overhead, making both of those symbols meaningless by their blasphemy. They will not let soldiers come home en masse to tell truths to the lies of propaganda.
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:46 PM
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7. Says Rice is lying when she says there are no plans for Iran war. |
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:49 PM
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10. Of course she's lying. |
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:04 PM
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23. She appears to have been born to lie. n/t |
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:49 PM
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11. Rice is lying, Bush is lying, they also want to intelligence...... |
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.... community to lie as well. Here we go again!
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Wed Apr-13-05 11:54 PM
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:48 PM
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8. Worth listening to but I'm dubious of him |
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I'll never get over the charges against him related to meeting a child at a McDonalds. And I'll never get over him saying in March 03 our troops would be bogged down outside Baghdad. And then there's that record of thinking Saddam was the anti-Christ up to Bush's election.
I'll listen, but I won't hang my hat on it.
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:59 PM
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20. Scott has been right all along. |
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The underage thing was dreamt up by the right wingnuts because Ritter was telling the truth. That's how the rapture right operates. :eyes:
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Wed Apr-13-05 11:21 PM
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31. How'd the Wingnuts get a judge involved? |
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:50 PM
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Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 02:55 PM by realpolitik
If he is right about this...
Does anyone remember the Pentagon Papers? Small change compared to what Scott just leveled. This is one big ass j'accuse.
Too bad, I was really getting to like Scott Ritter.
It also suggests that confirming Condi was monumentally stupid. It also means that Bolton is going to really polarize the UN. That is to say, them against US.
Iran is the monumental 'cheney yourself' from ** to the world. Ask yourself, how in the world to the pugs expect to win in 2006 and 2008?
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:50 PM
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13. Randi said Scott.....trusts his word |
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:50 PM
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14. iran nuclear plans based on plans provided by cheney & rummy |
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for energy, not weapons, during Ford Administration. The Senate knows this...
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:52 PM
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15. Holy shit, she's taking a commercial break and when she gets.... |
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...back in 3 mins she will explain her take on the whole Iran/Bolton/Sharon connection!!
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:53 PM
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16. What's the name of the group he said was on terrorist watchlist |
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who are working for us now ?
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Wed Apr-13-05 02:56 PM
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:01 PM
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I trust this guy-i don't know much about the McDonald's story(I'll check it out), but don't forget how they smear and discredit ANYONE who dares speak the truth about them.
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Wed Apr-13-05 11:57 PM
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It's like what they did with Richard Clarke claiming he was lying for his book. :eyes:
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:02 PM
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22. I predict that BushCo will set off a small nuke in Iraq |
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and blame it on Iran. This will get the Iraqis on board to use for cannon fodder on the front lines when we move in to Iran from our new Iraq military bases. Israel will provide air support using the equipment and WMD we sold them.
Duck and cover folks.
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:09 PM
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24. I've been thinking that for weeks now |
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:14 PM
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25. Everyone you know should be advised and they should pass the word. |
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Any pretenses to war and all the activities of Bolton, Negroponte, Rice and all the other imperialists need to be exposed.
It is Iran's misfortune to be in the geographical path of oil and water pipelines to Israel and the Mediterranean.
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:19 PM
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26. I am sick to my stomach |
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Wed Apr-13-05 03:36 PM
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28. NBC news says that Iran is selling Palestinians drones to bomb Israel. |
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OK. I know I should find some kind of link for that. It was on NBC Nightly News last night. Did anyone else see it. I'll try to find a link somewhere.
Anyway, I kept thinking that they are trying to build up the case against going into Iran.
Oh, and if it's already been posted. Sorry.
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